Council Of First Knowledge, Jedi Temple Training Facility

[EventHorizan]

even takes you to the page that it was mentioned on and everything haha. thats crazy this thread has pretty much doubled in pages since the time i started posting in it..

I think my girl got me sick again, right after i just recovered from my last one... damnit! :(

Well stay out the garden, we cant having you get the rest the family sick :)

 

[EventHorizan]

Just saw this posted on another thread. Maybe gallon jugs of ice to cool the water?

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Im thinking instead of buying a Minisplit, Im gonna buy 3 of them and a 1 hp chiller. Since I have to chill my system anyway, Well I think i may have a ca and a mg diff. Im just not for sure if its from the N tox, few days ago, are if having my ppm at 300 if that means my base doesnt have enuf ca,mg at 300 ppm base.
@Wisher619
Talk to me brother..
I got something ive been chewing on mentally...
So just talking out loud...
So lets take CNS17 grow for example.
We grow with it at 18/5 in coco
without any need for Ca or Mg supplements.
But at 300 ppm do some salts fall out of the range that may be required, such as Ca, or Mg?
And if that holds true, is there other salts that may fall out?
And how does one compute that?

Growing at such a low ppm, is kinda like learning to grow all over again, as the tolerances have seriously tightened up.. Where in coco you can pretty much set it from 500 ppm to 1000 ppm and be good as long as you have good run off..
But in the UC, its like 250 ppm to 600 ppm and 50 to 100 ppm either way is Tox or Diff..

 

[Wisher619]

Im thinking instead of buying a Minisplit, Im gonna buy 3 of them and a 1 hp chiller. Since I have to chill my system anyway, Well I think i may have a ca and a mg diff. Im just not for sure if its from the N tox, few days ago, are if having my ppm at 300 if that means my base doesnt have enuf ca,mg at 300 ppm base.
@Wisher619
Talk to me brother..
I got something ive been chewing on mentally...
So just talking out loud...
So lets take CNS17 grow for example.
We grow with it at 18/5 in coco
without any need for Ca or Mg supplements.
But at 300 ppm do some salts fall out of the range that may be required, such as Ca, or Mg?
And if that holds true, is there other salts that may fall out?
And how does one compute that?

Growing at such a low ppm, is kinda like learning to grow all over again, as the tolerances have seriously tightened up.. Where in coco you can pretty much set it from 500 ppm to 1000 ppm and be good as long as you have good run off..
But in the UC, its like 250 ppm to 600 ppm and 50 to 100 ppm either way is Tox or Diff..

well....I dont believe you have N tox
even if some of your leaves were clawed at the tips
I think your nutes were just to high

CNS says to run you nutes at 50% for UC so that would be 9ml per gal....which is good

yes I believe at that low of a ppm you would be out of range on NPK....and yes maybe Cal n Mg meaning you should then be supplementing with Calmg at say 3ml per gal

this is the very reason why IMO coco is the very best medium to grow with bar none

maybe if you get your shit professionaly dialed with leaf analysis and all that but for simple hydroponics

coco for me probably for life

 

[EventHorizan]

well....I dont believe you have N tox
even if some of your leaves were clawed at the tips
I think your nutes were just to high

CNS says to run you nutes at 50% for UC so that would be 9ml per gal....which is good

yes I believe at that low of a ppm you would be out of range on NPK....and yes maybe Cal n Mg meaning you should then be supplementing with Calmg at say 3ml per gal

this is the very reason why IMO coco is the very best medium to grow with bar none

maybe if you get your shit professionaly dialed with leaf analysis and all that but for simple hydroponics

coco for me probably for life

Lol.. I know.. Hell I think you even had Johnny Cockran call and make sure I knew where you stand lol..
But in all fairness, just consider me the friend that wants to bang the crazy chick, and accompany me on this ride..
And honestly Im getting better because I have too..
I seen these plants putting it down right before i gave that second feeding. They were banging an inch a day!
I seen the power this system showed.. I just need to learn to control my emotions Master Yoda...

I looked back in my thread and remembered some of my thoughts along this journey here on this thread...
Shit I have came so far.
This system will train me to keep better notes, to take my time, to see problems even before I see them now..
Ive said before, they are either praying or trying to tell us whats wrong..

Ya coco is easier brother. Your right. I agree.
FOR NOW.....................................................

 

[Wisher619]

Lol.. I know.. Hell I think you even had Johnny Cockran call and make sure I knew where you stand lol..
But in all fairness, just consider me the friend that wants to bang the crazy chick, and accompany me on this ride..
And honestly Im getting better because I have too..
I seen these plants putting it down right before i gave that second feeding. They were banging an inch a day!
I seen the power this system showed.. I just need to learn to control my emotions Master Yoda...

I looked back in my thread and remembered some of my thoughts along this journey here on this thread...
Shit I have came so far.
This system will train me to keep better notes, to take my time, to see problems even before I see them now..
Ive said before, they are either praying or trying to tell us whats wrong..

Ya coco is easier brother. Your right. I agree.
FOR NOW.....................................................

my bad
I wasnt tryin to promote coco hahahahha

but yes just seems to me that tryin to hit that spot is much tighter with UC and seems just so unforgiving

I fuck up alot
Need a shit ton of forgiveness
LORD JESUS!!

ha ha.....
def will walk the path with you

can always bounce your thoughts and ideas off me brother

 

[Toph420]

Im thinking instead of buying a Minisplit, Im gonna buy 3 of them and a 1 hp chiller. Since I have to chill my system anyway, Well I think i may have a ca and a mg diff. Im just not for sure if its from the N tox, few days ago, are if having my ppm at 300 if that means my base doesnt have enuf ca,mg at 300 ppm base.
@Wisher619
Talk to me brother..
I got something ive been chewing on mentally...
So just talking out loud...
So lets take CNS17 grow for example.
We grow with it at 18/5 in coco
without any need for Ca or Mg supplements.
But at 300 ppm do some salts fall out of the range that may be required, such as Ca, or Mg?
And if that holds true, is there other salts that may fall out?
And how does one compute that?

Growing at such a low ppm, is kinda like learning to grow all over again, as the tolerances have seriously tightened up.. Where in coco you can pretty much set it from 500 ppm to 1000 ppm and be good as long as you have good run off..
But in the UC, its like 250 ppm to 600 ppm and 50 to 100 ppm either way is Tox or Diff..

Lol.. I know.. Hell I think you even had Johnny Cockran call and make sure I knew where you stand lol..
But in all fairness, just consider me the friend that wants to bang the crazy chick, and accompany me on this ride..
And honestly Im getting better because I have too..
I seen these plants putting it down right before i gave that second feeding. They were banging an inch a day!
I seen the power this system showed.. I just need to learn to control my emotions Master Yoda...

I looked back in my thread and remembered some of my thoughts along this journey here on this thread...
Shit I have came so far.
This system will train me to keep better notes, to take my time, to see problems even before I see them now..
Ive said before, they are either praying or trying to tell us whats wrong..

Ya coco is easier brother. Your right. I agree.
FOR NOW.....................................................

It’s probably going to take you a few rounds to perfect the feedings in this system. I feel like for me to perfect using CS nutes it would take at least another 2 rounds with the same jawa cut and I have a guide telling me what to do lol... You will get it brother, just a matter of time if you set your mind to it!

 

[EventHorizan]

my bad
I wasnt tryin to promote coco hahahahha

but yes just seems to me that tryin to hit that spot is much tighter with UC and seems just so unforgiving

I fuck up alot
Need a shit ton of forgiveness
LORD JESUS!!

ha ha.....
def will walk the path with you

can always bounce your thoughts and ideas off me brother

I already knew brother, lol...
I said I would make you proud the first day you spent some time and spit some knowledge, that I would make you proud if I could bug the shit out of you with questions..
And them questions spanned over 600 pages lol..
What a journey..

So i got some pics of the leaves that show the dif.
After the pics i removed them..
Then after this post I want to talk about a certain specific leaf, and I post it by itself.. Where all my boys tonight.. We ready for class""? Im gonna git Masta Yodad to spit some knowledge..

 

[EventHorizan]

It’s probably going to take you a few rounds to perfect the feedings in this system. I feel like for me to perfect using CS nutes it would take at least another 2 rounds with the same jawa cut and I have a guide telling me what to do lol... You will get it brother, just a matter of time if you set your mind to it!

Oh without a doubt!
Lol I wouldnt never let myself fail.
Damn do i sound discouraged lmao????
hahahaha im rolling over here..
Thinking this ole boy dont got much faith in me haha..
Bro...............
Not only will I get it, but I will master it...
Im not discouraged at all, shit I feel like I have found what too high is, and soon I prob know what to low is and then I tweak and come up with a nute regime that coexist with cc nute chart and prob have this shit just like the waterfarms..
And I was able to understand that at such a low ppm base I prob need to use some suppliments for ca and mg..

Question wish, how do I compare cc calmag to gh calmag?
And now its to late to add calimag to the system...
What do you recommend?

 

[EventHorizan]

Ca ?

 

[EventHorizan]

You see the blades 9n the leaf? You can see the white tips and they are curled down.. Think that was from too high ec?

 

[EventHorizan]

But they look pretty good.. Just need some ca..

 

[EventHorizan]

I do have one problem.. They are growing to thick..
I cant bend them..
Its only a foot tall and that thick..

 

[Farmer P]

Nice, you're gonna have some of them fat ass stalks like Joey! When's flip?

 

[EventHorizan]

Nice, you're gonna have some of them fat ass stalks like Joey! When's flip?

oh prob a few weeks..Im over here learning how to drive this thing, we might be in veg a few days longer than normal...

 

[Toph420]

Oh without a doubt!
Lol I wouldnt never let myself fail.
Damn do i sound discouraged lmao????
hahahaha im rolling over here..
Thinking this ole boy dont got much faith in me haha..
Bro...............
Not only will I get it, but I will master it...
Im not discouraged at all, shit I feel like I have found what too high is, and soon I prob know what to low is and then I tweak and come up with a nute regime that coexist with cc nute chart and prob have this shit just like the waterfarms..
And I was able to understand that at such a low ppm base I prob need to use some suppliments for ca and mg..

Question wish, how do I compare cc calmag to gh calmag?
And now its to late to add calimag to the system...
What do you recommend?

Sorry didn’t mean to sound like you were loosing faith in yourself haha, I just know shit can be frustrating at times. Thought I’d give you some words of encouragement :) ..

Also one thing I remember reading on cch2o’s website is that in RDWC sometimes when it looks like deficiencies it’s really an overdose.. is it possible those leaves are like that from your nute overdose a few days/week ago?

 

[Farmer P]

Day 44. About 12 days till chop. The Sour urlke (back left) is starting to yellow up. The Bubba and Bubba's girl (front right and front left) seem like the leaves will purple instead of yellow IDK. The White blaze (back right) is showing no sign of fade yet. My bubba clone I tried in rockwool didn't root, I think it was too cold. So looks like next run will be just bubba's girl (two clones and one seedling feminized).

 

[EventHorizan]

Sorry didn’t mean to sound like you were loosing faith in yourself haha, I just know shit can be frustrating at times. Thought I’d give you some words of encouragement :) ..

Also one thing I remember reading on cch2o’s website is that in RDWC sometimes when it looks like deficiencies it’s really an overdose.. is it possible those leaves are like that from your nute overdose a few days/week ago?

Yes..
Very likely..
I could cause a lockout when I over fed..

But I just didnt know weather to compare this to the waterfarms or what. The truth is, these are way more powerful than the waterfarms, and very finicky, quick to respond to changes. I imagine a Ferrari is too tho..

Now that I def know what too much was, I feel like I got something to base judgements off of now.. I actually think I could raise my ppm to 400 and would be fine..
But I like the idea of less base, and figuring it out from there..

 

[EventHorizan]

Day 44. About 12 days till chop. The Sour urlke (back left) is starting to yellow up. The Bubba and Bubba's girl (front right and front left) seem like the leaves will purple instead of yellow IDK. The White blaze (back right) is showing no sign of fade yet. My bubba clone I tried in rockwool didn't root, I think it was too cold. So looks like next run will be just bubba's girl (two clones and one seedling feminized).

So how are they smelling? Ya clones grow so much different than seeds.. Im still getting used to clones and scrogging..

 

[Wisher619]

Oh without a doubt!
Lol I wouldnt never let myself fail.
Damn do i sound discouraged lmao????
hahahaha im rolling over here..
Thinking this ole boy dont got much faith in me haha..
Bro...............
Not only will I get it, but I will master it...
Im not discouraged at all, shit I feel like I have found what too high is, and soon I prob know what to low is and then I tweak and come up with a nute regime that coexist with cc nute chart and prob have this shit just like the waterfarms..
And I was able to understand that at such a low ppm base I prob need to use some suppliments for ca and mg..

Question wish, how do I compare cc calmag to gh calmag?
And now its to late to add calimag to the system...
What do you recommend?

not to late
and just look at the values and see the recomended ec value and what they recommend dosing

 

[EventHorizan]

Threw my net back down..
Ready to get my weave done..