Oxine.. Chlorine Dioxide?

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What do you guys think?

Oxine (Chlorine Dioxide)

Oxine is a multipurpose liquid disinfectant which is many times more powerful in eliminating micro organisms than common chlorine based materials or hydrogen peroxide.

The beauty of this product is that it is a very powerful oxidiser yet it leaves no harmful by-products behind.

When Oxine (a patented stabilised Sodium Chlorite solution) is activated with citric acid it forms a stock solution liquid which emits Chlorine Dioxide gas (ClO2) – a very powerful Oxidising agent.

(Chlorine Dioxide (ClO2) derived from Oxine is not to be confused in any way with swimming pool Chlorine, or industrial strength applications of low grade ClO2 – they are totally different)

This ClO2 stock solution is then added to the body of water requiring treatment. The ClO2 immediately takes action and begins oxidising any harmful micro organisms it comes in contact with.

It is the Oxygen in the molecule ClO2 that is so active. After the oxidation of microorganisms takes place the Chlorine (Cl) in the ClO2 molecule finishes up being combined with Sodium (Na) to form a harmless degradation product – common salt (NaCl).

It is the powerful oxidation properties of the ClO2 molecule and the harmless by-product it leaves behind (common salt) plus its gentle action around living plant tissue which makes Oxine an excellent product for hydroponics.

The common salt left behind as a by-product of the oxidation process is of low toxicity and can easily be monitored and removed from the system should they ever built up to unwanted levels. In hydroponic systems these levels are usually negligible provided there is not an elevated content of sodium already present int he water supply. .

Oxine overcomes the shortcomings of all other Chlorine based products which allow troublesome organochlorines to form when chlorine reacts with organic material.

The Oxine product is unique in that the patented method of manufacture and stabilisation produces a product ideally suited for use in horticulture.

There are other low grade industrial ClO2 products, used in industry, that have caused problems to plants and these products are not to be confused with Oxine and Oxine should always be asked for by name.

The Oxine application rates for hydroponics are as follows:

2ppm – The standard dose rate for fully sanitising water supplies used for hydroponic systems or human consumption. Can be directly added to a tank or dam or injected inline via a proportional injector. Targets Pythium, Phytophthora and similar water borne pathogens.

2ppm – The standard dose rate for adding to nutrient solutions fed to crops. The 2ppm strength targets pathogens and other harmful microorganisms, controls algae and unblocks drippers while being soft on plant roots and plant tissue. The recirculated residual helps to keep NFT gullies clean and free of organic loading. It has been successfully used for cleaning up fungal infections on root systems.

5ppm – The standard dose rate for adding to nutrient solutions which are fed to plants in run to waste (non recirculating systems) when fungal problems are present in the media.

10ppm – For the control of bacterial soft rot on Calla foliage/tubers to prevent spread within the crop. Used as a foliar spray. Not compatible with copper sprays which may already be present on the foliage.

50ppm – For flushing through drippers, drip tape and other pipework to sterilise them between crops or when disease problems occur. Great for removing biofilm from pipes, gullies and drip systems. (Plants must be disconnected from the gullies or drippers and pipework must be well flushed with fresh water before reconnecting to the crop). When used with a wetter/spreader the level of contact and effectiveness increases.

50ppm – For flushing through reusable media to sterilise it before it is used for the next crop e.g coconut coir, pumice, scoria

100ppm – For disinfecting processing lines, greenhouse floors or harvesting equipment. As a soak bath additive to sterilise growpots and propagation trays and other equipment. Will loosen stubborn organic matter and biofilm. No rinsing required after application. Can also be applied as a fine mist. Ensure surfaces are wet for at least 1 minute.

Contact Pure Hydroponics for more information and pricing on this world class multipurpose disinfection product.
 
RollinEndough

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It's an established product in many industries. Should do everything listed.

Found gallon bottles from the manufacture at $25 online, what is Pure Hydroponics reselling it for?
 
Wavegem

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Not sure the price from pure hydroponics. If this product is exactly what they say, then why do people use h202 which works but has to be replaced often and zone is a chlorine based product containing chloramine. It would make sense that this product is far superior than both products and is being used by commercial industries. With all the root issues in DWC I would imagine this being the holy grail. Commercial hydroponic growers don't grow in these big bucket systems so I am not sure if it would be an ideal replacement.
 
RollinEndough

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The only root issue I've had pop up was algae and it was easily fixed by blocking the light from going through the net pots.

I'm a believer that 99% of the problems you see pop up here are due to noobie mistakes, most common being a heavy handed pH adjustment or killing them softly with high EC. And so I use UC roots or Zone as a preventive measure more than anything.

Will give Oxine a try though as it does seem to be the bees knees.
 
HighDesertMMJ

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Response from PureHydroponics, shipping from New Zealand I assume:
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We can supply Oxine in a 20 Litre grade for NZ$310.00 + Shipping. (US$240.00)
or
A smaller 2.5 litre grade for NZ$59.00 + Shipping. (US$46.00)
You will require Citric Acid crystals to activate the product.
These are NZ$15.00 per kg. (US$12.00)
If you are interested in receiving a freight quotation please let me know the quantities you require, your delivery address and whether you prefer sea freight or airfreight.
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RollinEndough

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Versus;

From the instructions;

Prepare the active solution by placing 3.25 fl. oz. of OXINE® (AH) concentrate per gallon of working solution into a clean, plastic pail and add 10 grams of the Citric Acid Crystals (no less than 99% pure). Prepare in a well ventilated area. Allow the crystals to dissolve and activate the solution which takes about 5 minutes. To this solution, add 1 gallon of clean potable water. This will yield a working solution containing 500 ppm of available chlorine dioxide.

So a gallon will make a lot up as these directions yield a 500ppm solution and the above directions call from 2-100ppm depending on what you're doing.
 
Wavegem

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Thanks guys. I might have to give this a try. It seems like the answer for just about anything you need to clean that comes into contact with the plants. I feel like a mad scientist with that citric acid lol.
 
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So, did anybody try oxine? I'm curious as to whether it would prevent or remove algae on rockwool when cloning. How does it compare to H2O2? Thanks!
 
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Hi Everyone,

I was doing a search on Google for Chlorine Dioxide Seeds and came across your forum.

I know nothing about Marijuana apart from watching every single episode of the TV show Weeds but I was researching online as I wanted to grow some Tomatoes at home and was curious to know if Chlorine Dioxide would help or harm the growth of the tomatoes.

Anyway the reason I even know what Chlorine Dioxide is, is because it's the same thing as MMS, also known as Master Mineral Solution, and people all over the world have been using it to rid themselves of various ailments. Including myself - after 2 years of joint paints all over my body I came across MMS and decided to give it a go - which meant putting a few drops in water and drinking it. It was not a pleasant experience but after 2 weeks of MMS 95% of my joint pains have just gone. If you're curious about using Chlorine Dioxide for more then just plants do a search on YouTube, you'll find quite a few videos about it.

As for the question above about how it compares to H2O2 - I can tell you from human experience of ingesting both H2O2 and Chlorine Dioxide - Chlorine Dioxide is way gentler and way more effective. I'd imagine it would be the same for your plants.
 
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Not sure the price from pure hydroponics. If this product is exactly what they say, then why do people use h202 which works but has to be replaced often and zone is a chlorine based product containing chloramine. It would make sense that this product is far superior than both products and is being used by commercial industries. With all the root issues in DWC I would imagine this being the holy grail. Commercial hydroponic growers don't grow in these big bucket systems so I am not sure if it would be an ideal replacement.
I myself would like to know if anybody else is using oxime and in your post you said that zone is chloramine...that IS NOT true. The active ingredient in zone is copper sulfate. Stop spreading bs fallacies. Btw, zone blows and is ineffective
 
diamond2.0

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I use mms in all forms in my body . its great for reversing wasting from ms.a....phenol poisening , clears Cronic Hep C for supa cheap !!! as mentioned earlier there are many testimonials on youtube. I wouldnt pay exploded hydro prices though . jim humbles cost 28 bucks right now premixed little bottles.. With both components. You can buy the flakes and make your own chlorine dioxide on the cheap. You can use lemon juice if you dont have citric acid. I use sodium hypochlorite to clean things though. 10 bucks a bottle at the poolstore. Actually 20 bucks because comes in two bottle pack. Cheap and way better than bleach ! I actually take pills i make with 78% sodium hypochlorite powder too . chlorine dioxcide is why im hear alive today !!!!Mass diluted it will take care of mold and mildew, no problemo ! Ive sat a bowl of it directly under black mold and that was like a thick paddy on the cieling and the next time i went to check on it. A dayt later i think , it was completally gone like it was never there . It was like it never happened. i was looking on my floor for the the mold thinkin it dropped off the cieling but it apparently just vanised leaving the cleaniest spot on the panel.. I would have no problem using the drops in my water. Its used to clean water too . Ill mix that with ozonated water let the plant healing begin baby !


Funny how they say ,"used medically " yet they dont tell you how. ................I think that may also be kind of important too . at least follow up. oh well.
 
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mojavegreen

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I myself would like to know if anybody else is using oxime and in your post you said that zone is chloramine...that IS NOT true. The active ingredient in zone is copper sulfate. Stop spreading bs fallacies. Btw, zone blows and is ineffective
Based on my experiments with my orp meter and zone, you sir are absolutely correct!
 
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I work for the manufacturer of OXINE, Bio-Cide International, Inc. in Oklahoma, USA. I can confirm what WAVEGEM posted about the chemistry being very effective against the plant pathogens that affect hydroponics growers. Since I receive a fair number of calls from growers who heard about the chemistry from other growers or via "the grapevine", I just wanted to comment on here so folks won't be distracted with misinformation or confusion, especially since this is an US-EPA registered biocide with Chlorine Dioxide being the active ingredient. You can find out just about everything you want to know about OXINE at Bio-Cide's website or at the website of our top hydroponics distributor Bio-Cide New Zealand.
 
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I'm going to try at treat my municipal tap with this. It's low ec of .3 but every time I try to use it in DWC I get root rot instantly and when I switch back to RO the rot vanishes.
 
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You may want to spend some time researching the data available for the horticulture industry at The University of Florida's "Water Education Alliance for Horticulture" website. They discuss almost every type of pathogen and share data about the different types of solutions under the "Tools" section. Under "Treatment Systems" you can click on "Chlorine Dioxide" to learn more. Their info is summarized from "Published Data" which means its pretty reliable.
 
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I enjoyed meeting a few of you at our booth at both the Seattle and OKC CannaCon shows. I am pleased to inform you that "LLK Greenhouse Solutions" is now our Distributor for OXINE-WT (Horticulture).
 
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I enjoyed meeting a few of you at our booth at both the Seattle and OKC CannaCon shows. I am pleased to inform you that "LLK Greenhouse Solutions" is now our Distributor for OXINE-WT (Horticulture).
whats application rate for dwc?
how long does product last before becoming ineffective or how often to reapply?
 
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whats application rate for dwc?
how long does product last before becoming ineffective or how often to reapply?
PDasterly, If your DWC system has evidence of plant pathogens start at 2-ppm. Per the EPA Label that's 1.28 ounces OXINE-WT activated with 4 grams Citric Acid per 100 gallons water. Otherwise dose at 0.5 ppm. That would be 0.32 ounces OXINE-WT activated with 1.024 grams Citric Acid per 100 gallons water. Some growers prefer batch treating dirty water with 2-3 ppm activated Oxine and letting it stand for a minimum 12 hours to clean up Pythium, Fusarium, Phytophthora, Pseudomonas and other plant pathogens. Be sure to treat all incoming makeup water unless you are on municipal water. You should reapply to DWC water as needed to maintain the preferred treatment level. Use only a Bio-Cide International Chlorine Dioxide Test Kit to confirm dosage. May need to reapply every day or so depending on the presence of biofilm or other contaminates in the system that will consume the ClO2.
 
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PDasterly, If your DWC system has evidence of plant pathogens start at 2-ppm. Per the EPA Label that's 1.28 ounces OXINE-WT activated with 4 grams Citric Acid per 100 gallons water. Otherwise dose at 0.5 ppm. That would be 0.32 ounces OXINE-WT activated with 1.024 grams Citric Acid per 100 gallons water. Some growers prefer batch treating dirty water with 2-3 ppm activated Oxine and letting it stand for a minimum 12 hours to clean up Pythium, Fusarium, Phytophthora, Pseudomonas and other plant pathogens. Be sure to treat all incoming makeup water unless you are on municipal water. You should reapply to DWC water as needed to maintain the preferred treatment level. Use only a Bio-Cide International Chlorine Dioxide Test Kit to confirm dosage. May need to reapply every day or so depending on the presence of biofilm or other contaminates in the system that will consume the ClO2.
what about an unactivated prescription
 
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