Splitting stems

[Longsmoker]

Recently started splitting stems and the growth is incredible...anyone else use this technique?

 

[420Artie]

Keep an eye out for mold where the stems are split. Splitting stems will give molds and pests an easy access point.

 

[Madbud]

I’ve split several outdoors late in flower, no ill effect. Whether it increases bud size, who knows?

 

[Beachwalker]

Not sure what you're doing, but regarding so-called stem splitting, if I recall this was started by Robert Bergman about 4 years ago but it doesn't really work, and I didn't know people were still doing it?

Via Bergman, you're supposed to split the stem just days before you harvest to make all the THC run up into the buds or some such nonsense, you can search Bergman and check out what he says for more information, good luck

 

[Longsmoker]

Not sure what you're doing, but regarding so-called stem splitting, if I recall this was started by Robert Bergman about 4 years ago but it doesn't really work, and I didn't know people were still doing it?

Via Bergman, you're supposed to split the stem just days before you harvest to make all the THC run up into the buds or some such nonsense, you can search Bergman and check out what he says for more information, good luck

Not sure what you're doing, but regarding so-called stem splitting, if I recall this was started by Robert Bergman about 4 years ago but it doesn't really work, and I didn't know people were still doing it?

Via Bergman, you're supposed to split the stem just days before you harvest to make all the THC run up into the buds or some such nonsense, you can search Bergman and check out what he says for more information, good luck

Thanks Im going to research that..I love stressing My plants from bending to topping to breaking. They always take off

 

[Longsmoker]

Not sure what you're doing, but regarding so-called stem splitting, if I recall this was started by Robert Bergman about 4 years ago but it doesn't really work, and I didn't know people were still doing it?

Via Bergman, you're supposed to split the stem just days before you harvest to make all the THC run up into the buds or some such nonsense, you can search Bergman and check out what he says for more information, good luck

This is the same plant a couple weeks after split

 

[Beachwalker]

Thanks Im going to research that..I love stressing My plants from bending to topping to breaking. They always take off

You're welcome, hope it works out for you! Myself I disagree with the whole premise of stressing plants but whatever works for you! Not a hundred percent positive Bergman 'invented' it but I did hear it from him about three or four years ago

 

[MIMedGrower]

Stressing and injuring plants like this is an old myth. Old like hanging the plants upside down whole so the thc in the stems runs down to the buds.

Reality is that the injury slowed the plant down while it has to heal itself. And is weak and vulnerable to pests and disease while doing so.

 

[Edinburgh]

Stem spoting is an old Chinese form of botany used to stress certain plants, the idea behind this is the stress will make the plant flower more with bigger flower, I did it once myself saw no difference in yield compared to the other plants, allso tricky to do if not done right you could kill your plant, but they do look nice.

 

[Longsmoker]

You are 100% right does slow plant down just as topping does...but for example by pinching,bending and properly breaking the areas affected create knots that make those areas so much stronger allowing to take up more nutrients. Also alows us to have an even canopy..proven to be beneficial..I just snapped a pic of an outdoor flower camera on my phone sucks but if you look close you can see a knot on this branch and look down the base of the stem the knot is twice the size of the stem

 

[Madbud]

Stressing and injuring plants like this is an old myth. Old like hanging the plants upside down whole so the thc in the stems runs down to the buds.

Reality is that the injury slowed the plant down while it has to heal itself. And is weak and vulnerable to pests and disease while doing so.

You hung a plant upside down?

 

[MIMedGrower]

You hung a plant upside down?

No. I strip the big leaves and hang cut branches to dry and then dry trim the bud leaves.

The old men out here in the woods hang whole 10 foot tall and bigger plants in the barn with the roots intact so as they told me “the thc will drip down from the roots and stems and fill the buds more”.

 

[MIMedGrower]

You are 100% right does slow plant down just as topping does...but for example by pinching,bending and properly breaking the areas affected create knots that make those areas so much stronger allowing to take up more nutrients. Also alows us to have an even canopy..proven to be beneficial..I just snapped a pic of an outdoor flower camera on my phone sucks but if you look close you can see a knot on this branch and look down the base of the stem the knot is twice the size of the stem

Not arguing about the size of the knuckle formed or about supercropping and training techniques for an even canopy. I do it all the time.

I am arguing that the injury makes more or faster or better growth. And i would like to see proof that more nutrients uptake because of the knuckle formed. I dont think that has anything to do with nutrient uptake and the stems on either side of the break remain the same size pretty much.

 

[Jimster]

properly breaking the areas affected create knots that make those areas so much stronger allowing to take up more nutrients.

The knot is a reaction to the tissue damage, much like our bones grow back stronger after they have been broken. The belief that the larger knot facilitates any type of nutrient or potency process is untrue, as the knot, if it were true, couldn't move more stuff because of the narrow stem prior to and after the knot, like a blister on a hose. There was also the practice of putting a nail or spike thru the stem, which caused the same type of wound and knot. Basic Urban Canna-legend in my opinion. I don't feel that my plants have ever benefitted by intentional damage, other than light trimming or pruning for light penetration.
…. again, this is all in my opinion.

 

[Migrower]

Idk if the purposeful splitting of stems is beneficial. But I do know from a side by side between 4 plants. Two and two. The two plants that I supercropped and did some stem pinching at pivotal spots outperformed the other two noticeably. Yes when you stress a plant it initially slows growth. But overtime it will catch up and grow more vigorously than if you didn’t. But these techniques must be done right. Take bone hardening (practiced by martial artists) It will hurt and bruise your shins horribly at first,it takes will and strength. But overtime your body adjusts,your bones grow stronger,your shins stop bruising and hurting. And now they are overall stronger to protect yourself. Now this one example. But overcoming adversity and stress makes people stronger and if done properly plants too.

 

[Madbud]

Aristotle reasoned that a mellon falls faster than a grape because its larger and heavier. I knewaguy years ago doing guerrilla grows on Long Island, stepped on his plants to keep them low, like ground pine. Worked great, the original supercropper.

 

[MIMedGrower]

Idk if the purposeful splitting of stems is beneficial. But I do know from a side by side between 4 plants. Two and two. The two plants that I supercropped and did some stem pinching at pivotal spots outperformed the other two noticeably. Yes when you stress a plant it initially slows growth. But overtime it will catch up and grow more vigorously than if you didn’t. But these techniques must be done right. Take bone hardening (practiced by martial artists) It will hurt and bruise your shins horribly at first,it takes will and strength. But overtime your body adjusts,your bones grow stronger,your shins stop bruising and hurting. And now they are overall stronger to protect yourself. Now this one example. But overcoming adversity and stress makes people stronger and if done properly plants too.

Actually wouldnt a better comparison be when we break or injure a bone our bodies over grow the bone and try to fuse them together to prevent further injury.

This causes us many bone and ligament problems like arthritis.

:-)

 

[Migrower]

Actually wouldnt a better comparison be when we break or injure a bone our bodies over grow the bone and try to fuse them together to prevent further injury.

This causes us many bone and ligament problems like arthritis.

:-)

No unless there was a way to purposely break your bone without causing ill effects,which I may actually have heard stories of. Most of the time you break your bone accidentally in a horrible fashion. Your lucky to get a “clean” break. And this is usually only true if you don’t continually break the same bone in the same spot over and over before it can fully heal.
I’m only making a comparison,and to techniques done purposely to benefit.

 

[MIMedGrower]

No unless there was a way to purposely break your bone without causing ill effects,which I may actually have heard stories of. Most of the time you break your bone accidentally in a horrible fashion. Your lucky to get a “clean” break. And this is usually only true if you don’t continually break the same bone in the same spot over and over before it can fully heal.
I’m only making a comparison,and to techniques done purposely to benefit.

They are called bone spurs and they result from any bone injury. i broke my left clavicle bad last year and am now having bone spur issues on my right shoulder from the same impact.


And plants and human biology are completely different anyway. There are few similarities.

 

[Migrower]

And plants and human biology are completely different anyway. There are few similarities.
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The point I was making is a truth from my experience in life. Overcoming stress and adversity only makes you stronger. And this seems to be a similarity between people and plants.