Hooptys three planters (and an Onion)

[Hoopty91]

That's white flies; I don't have experience with them, I would ask @Seraphine and @Dirtbag

Recommend you read up on them asap, I've heard they're very hard to eradicate, not sure if that's what's making those white spots on your plant or if that's another pest, possibly thrips? Hope this helps, good luck

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https://www.ilovegrowinginvalid.com/marijuana-pests-whiteflies/amp/

ps. How's the onion?

- the onion died:(.. But thanks for askingLol. It was going strong, growing about 2cm a day, then one morning, all the shoots rotted from the base;(..
-white flies~ yea, that's about what I've read on them, they infest and destroy, but the pictures look different from what I have (although I'm far from knowing what's what).. I do kill and remove what I see twice daily, buy I don't want to prolong this.. I will be looking into getting me a foliage spray asap.

 

[Hoopty91]

Not really. Youd be better off using rosemary oil and garlic oil in a spray bottle of water until you can get something higher caliber. There are good recipes on the Internet for rosemary oil sprays if you google it. It works somewhat well against spider mites.

Also, that looks more like spider mite damage. And that last pic of the bottom of the leaf, looks like a spider mite. Sorry Hoopty... Looks like your hooped.

Lol couldnt resist.

You will need an acaricide.

Lol, I ain't hooped yet!
Part of my problem, is that my "indoor grow" is outside... In a retrofitted tool shed, so I'm about 95%sealed, so small bugs can slip through some cracks..
But I've fixed my fungi gnat problems with "yalls" help, I think I can stay on top of this- Rosemary and Garlic oil, I'll look into it, and thanks for trouble shooting with me, I appreciate it;)

 

[Dirtbag]

Have a read through this.

Efficacy and persistence of rosemary oil as an acaricide against twospotted spider mite (Acari: Tetranychidae) on greenhouse tomato - PubMed

Efficacy of rosemary, Rosmarinus officinalis L., essential oil was assessed against twospotted spider mite, Tetranychus urticae Koch (Acari: Tetranychidae), as well as effects on the tomato, Lycopersicum esculatum Mill., host plant and biocontrol agents. Laboratory bioassay results indicated...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Beachwalker]

Not really. Youd be better off using rosemary oil and garlic oil in a spray bottle of water until you can get something higher caliber. There are good recipes on the Internet for rosemary oil sprays if you google it. It works somewhat well against spider mites.

Also, that looks more like spider mite damage. And that last pic of the bottom of the leaf, looks like a spider mite. Sorry Hoopty... Looks like your hooped.

Lol couldnt resist.

You will need an acaricide.

Sorry about the onion! That's 100% a whitefly in the picture you posted

and like I said above and Dirtbag just concurred, I think you've got more than one pest

It's possible that all that damage is from the whiteflies, I don't have experience with them or their damage

regardless if one or more pests you're going to need to get a professional product eventually, and you going to have to use it on a regular basis

Dirtbag is the guy that got me through thrips so I would go by his recommendations

Hope you get after this quickly because I've heard whiteflies are a real handful! Best wishes!

Ps. Not sure if they're attracted to Yellow sticky cards like fungus gnats are but you might consider trying those

 

[Hoopty91]

Have a read through this.

Efficacy and persistence of rosemary oil as an acaricide against twospotted spider mite (Acari: Tetranychidae) on greenhouse tomato - PubMed

Efficacy of rosemary, Rosmarinus officinalis L., essential oil was assessed against twospotted spider mite, Tetranychus urticae Koch (Acari: Tetranychidae), as well as effects on the tomato, Lycopersicum esculatum Mill., host plant and biocontrol agents. Laboratory bioassay results indicated...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Good read, but now I'm a bit paranoid on the P.Persimilis (spell check)... I don't think I've came across those, but in terms of spidermite effectiveness, and plant "safety" Rosemary sounds like the way to go.

 

[Dirtbag]

Add some peppermint oil and you've got a decent broad spectrum natural insecticide/acaricide. Should repel the whiteflies too. Spray it everywhere, not just on the plants. Especially where you think they're getting in.

And since you're in a shed, look into using a sulphur burner.

 

[Hoopty91]

Sorry about the onion! That's 100% a whitefly in the picture you posted

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and like I said above and Dirtbag just concurred, I think you've got more than one pest

It's possible that all that damage is from the whiteflies, I don't have experience with them or their damage

regardless if one or more pests you're going to need to get a professional product eventually, and you going to have to use it on a regular basis

Dirtbag is the guy that got me through thrips so I would go by his recommendations

Hope you get after this quickly because I've heard whiteflies are a real handful! Best wishes!

If I gotta submit, and buy a professional product, I will! I'm just trying to keep this as budget friendly as possible.. D.B is currently helping me troubleshoot, but I'm taking all info into consideration.
I don't wish to lose my plants this far in, and right now, the problem is manageable, so that's why I'm looking for "simple/easy" solutions first.
Again, all advice is appreciated;)

 

[Beachwalker]

IPM (what does the I stand for idk, integrated maybe) but it means Pest Management on a regular and ongoing basis (eg.) Spraying product twice-a-week, adding mosquito dunks once every week excetera ..you got to get used to it brah! Search 'IPM' on this forum for additional ideas

 

[Hoopty91]

Add some peppermint oil and you've got a decent broad spectrum natural insecticide/acaricide. Should repel the whiteflies too. Spray it everywhere, not just on the plants. Especially where you think they're getting in.

And since you're in a shed, look into using a sulphur burner.

Never heard of them, but I'll look into it.. My space is only 4x5, so I'm not sure if that's applicable... Again, I'll look into it(budget grower BTW!)

 

[Hoopty91]

IPM (what does the I stand for idk, integrated maybe) but it means Pest Management on a regular and ongoing basis (eg.) Spraying product twice-a-week, adding mosquito dunks once every week excetera ..you got to get used to it brah!

Well, twice daily I go through and pick at whatever bugs may be present, disturb the leaves with a shake, and then give a gentle (hand) wipe over any leaves that seem gritty/dirty.. But I don't have a spray routine, I'm kinda doing what I need to, when I need to, however, I "need" to be better at maintain my "clean room"... Im going to work on a spray recipe D.B recommended, and set myself a twice weekly, maintainece routine.

 

[Beachwalker]

Hey I did some reading and I got some good news for you relatively good news I think it's possible that you only have the whiteflies going on because the damage you have is consistent with this..

Here's the link..

Cannabis And Whiteflies: Prevention And Control - RQS Blog

Is your cannabis grow affected by whiteflies? Click here to learn more about these common pests and how to control/prevent them.

www.royalqueenseeds.com

 

[Dirtbag]

Hey I did some reading and I got some good news for you relatively good news I think it's possible that you only have the whiteflies going on because the damage you have is consistent with this..
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Here's the link..

Cannabis And Whiteflies: Prevention And Control - RQS Blog

Is your cannabis grow affected by whiteflies? Click here to learn more about these common pests and how to control/prevent them.

www.royalqueenseeds.com

I'm thinking you could be right mang!

Whitefly isnt a pest I've dealt with. But that does look like it fits. Wild how much it looks like spider mite damage. Although, I'm still suspicious of that orange looking spot on the bottom of the leaf in the pic he posted.

 

[Hoopty91]

Hey I did some reading and I got some good news for you relatively good news I think it's possible that you only have the whiteflies going on because the damage you have is consistent with this..
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Here's the link..

Cannabis And Whiteflies: Prevention And Control - RQS Blog

Is your cannabis grow affected by whiteflies? Click here to learn more about these common pests and how to control/prevent them.

www.royalqueenseeds.com

That's what I keep coming across, but my only counter is that these don't have that "shell" like head of the white flies... But everything else is consistant to its symptoms.

 

[Beachwalker]

That's what I keep coming across, but my only counter is that these don't have that "shell" like head of the white flies... But everything else is consistant to its symptoms.

Oh no it's white flies:

The only thing we're talking about is whether you have a second type of bug that's causing that damage because neither of us have dealt with whiteflies before

And based on the description of the whitefly damage in that article we're agreeing that the white flies alone could be causing the damage you're seeing; hope I clear that up?

 

[Hoopty91]

I'm thinking you could be right mang!

Whitefly isnt a pest I've dealt with. But that does look like it fits. Wild how much it looks like spider mite damage. Although, I'm still suspicious of that orange looking spot on the bottom of the leaf in the pic he posted.

Agreed, ill be more vigilant to the undersides as well as the tops, and implement a spray routine. I will reupdate Monday on my kit.

 

[Hoopty91]

Oh no it's white flies:

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The only thing we're talking about is whether you have a second type of bug that's causing that damage because neither of us have dealt with whiteflies before

And based on the description of the whitefly damage in that article we're agreeing that the white flies alone could be causing the damage you're seeing; hope I clear that up?

Gotcha

 

[Dirtbag]

If you've got a magnifier or loupe really inspect the plants. Look under and over all the leaves, along veins etc. And look for any signs of webbing near the lower leaf petioles or between serrations on the leaves. You will usually be able to find and ID spider mites if you have them.

 

[Hoopty91]

If you've got a magnifier or loupe really inspect the plants. Look under and over all the leaves, along veins etc. And look for any signs of webbing near the lower leaf petioles or between serrations on the leaves. You will usually be able to find and ID spider mites if you have them.

I will have a look.. That orange spot was a first for me, I usually find a couple black specs/eggs(?) and some white/opaque eggs on the underside, and I remove them accordingly, but I'm yet to find any webs/silk...
I'm aware I have some bugs, without a doubt, I just want to stay on top of them.
Also, I just checked out them sulfer burners, pretty neat! Definitely seems doable.

 

[Moshmen]

If I gotta submit, and buy a professional product, I will! I'm just trying to keep this as budget friendly as possible.. D.B is currently helping me troubleshoot, but I'm taking all info into consideration.
I don't wish to lose my plants this far in, and right now, the problem is manageable, so that's why I'm looking for "simple/easy" solutions first.
Again, all advice is appreciated;)

DB is the man! For sure but I know from “newbie” experience that sometimes budget friendly= waste of time imo but ya gotta do what ya gotta do if at all possible you will be happier using his other methods

 

[Moshmen]

I will have a look.. That orange spot was a first for me, I usually find a couple black specs/eggs(?) and some white/opaque eggs on the underside, and I remove them accordingly, but I'm yet to find any webs/silk...
I'm aware I have some bugs, without a doubt, I just want to stay on top of them.
Also, I just checked out them sulfer burners, pretty neat! Definitely seems doable.

Excellent choice