2000w-coco-Purple Kush-DTW-scrog-med grow

[JACKMAYOFFER]

Looks real good Bro...

 

[Raiderfan420]

Looks real good Bro...

Thanks Jack..I need to jump over and check you out. I haven't popped in on your grow in the last couple of weeks. But you definatley have it goin on man. I appreciate the compliment Brother.

 

[20north]

your doing a really good job keep it up i love how healthy the plants look from getting the correct motabolism with the MH in veg and then using the hps the plants really like that "D Awesome job man

your kick ass

peace

 

[Raiderfan420]

your doing a really good job keep it up i love how healthy the plants look from getting the correct motabolism with the MH in veg and then using the hps the plants really like that "D Awesome job man

your kick ass

peace

Thank you very much for your compliments. I appreciate it. It is good to hear from other growers that I am on the right track.:winking0067:

 

[20north]

is it just me or does everything look bigger on the computer snaps! well your welcome man, its nice to the rooms you dont ussaly get to see that are super perfected LoL... i have to ask the shot with the babies under the t5's they look happy those stems look bigger than like everything ive ever seen at harvest...


have you tried casey jones in that space-craft your running it sure isnt a nice nappy indica but it really is impressive

late

 

[HighTolerance]

Thanks Bro, I should be yummy..lol It smells like candy.


I know right, I have heard so much about it, we will see.



Thanks Shady Bro, I appreciate the compliments. The buds are actually starting to look a little purple. It's nutz.

Yes it is.



It is the sr-71 pk which the oaksterdam nursery grows. The sr-71 dispensary is no longer in existance and the coffee shop blue sky is the oaksterdam exclusive dispensary. Not saying they are the only oaksterdam disp, but they only have oaksterdam clones. I picked mine up in lake county from green leaf. The vendor cut my clones from a 1st gen sr-71 mother. I am planning on making a run down to the bay in the beginning of Jan to get some new clones. The deal is that if you don't get them straight from oaksterdam, you may be getting a distant generation so the genetics have been erroded.

The root structure filled my 7 gal smart pots before I flipped the switch. roots growing out the bottom,sides and exposed on the surface. They are very squatty and mine are maybe 3 feet tall now, but will grow as wide as tall. When I harvest I will try and remember to post some root shots.

I haven't added any cal/mag at all. I have some, but haven't wanted to mess with the house and garden nute program unless needed. I do however have some bright yellowing on one cola top fans. It is only on one, so I haven't adjusted anything. It happens to be the tallest cola. I am going to flush tomorrow with about 400 ppm nutes in r/o water. If I son't see any improvement, I may add some cal/mag. I also have clearex which I wll use in the final flush 3 days out.
To answer the nute question. I used 400 ppm through most of the veg and start kicking it up right before flower to about 500 ppm. Then raise it a little every week of flower. I used 90% of the recommended nutes per the house and garden cocos feeding chart. I got up to 950 ppm, but am backing down now for the last few weeks. I ran 840 with the shooting powder and will bring it down again next week. I plan on running 400 ppm for the last week flushing with r/o water and clearex when the trichomes look ready (a few days before harvest).
I did talk to my friend that owns the hydro shop I go to today and she said she uses a low dose of cal/mag every feeding, but the h&g is supposed to have enough in it.
Sorry, I can't give any advice on soil because I haven't grown in it. There is a big difference though because coco is a stable medium so your res matches the medium and as tolerance can tell you, if you fuck something up, you flush and start over and it's all better. :)

Oh and in coco I run ph'd to 5.5

Superb info bro. Thank you for taking your time out to write this.

Coco is very forgiving. Raider's approach was much safer about starting low on the nutes. My approach for my first grow was a lot more aggressive. But as raider said coco is so forgiving that i was able to get away with almost as high as 5.5 EC for around a week or so when some of the leaves started burning, this happened because i was watering without any runoff so the nutes concentration just got way to high. Any a single flush with clearex did the dead, next time I was running off very close to what I was putting in. Also I incorporated Great White while flushing to keep the micro life going so it could break down my organics.

 

[Raiderfan420]

is it just me or does everything look bigger on the computer snaps! well your welcome man, its nice to the rooms you dont ussaly get to see that are super perfected LoL... i have to ask the shot with the babies under the t5's they look happy those stems look bigger than like everything ive ever seen at harvest...


have you tried casey jones in that space-craft your running it sure isnt a nice nappy indica but it really is impressive

late

The stems are about index finger size. I have noticed under the T-5's you can keep the lights right on them forcing them to squat more. When I move to the flower room, I will run 7-10 days 20/4 light schedule under mh's so they can stretch and spread some before I flip the switch and change bulbs to hps.

 

[Raiderfan420]

Superb info bro. Thank you for taking your time out to write this.

Coco is very forgiving. Raider's approach was much safer about starting low on the nutes. My approach for my first grow was a lot more aggressive. But as raider said coco is so forgiving that i was able to get away with almost as high as 5.5 EC for around a week or so when some of the leaves started burning, this happened because i was watering without any runoff so the nutes concentration just got way to high. Any a single flush with clearex did the dead, next time I was running off very close to what I was putting in. Also I incorporated Great White while flushing to keep the micro life going so it could break down my organics.

You know me brother, I will share what I know. As little as that might be.lol Great example, thanks for sharing your experience here. I think is is really cool when you stumble accross a thread that has some good tips and experience shared by all. Maybe this will help someone out.:smiley_joint:

 

[Shady]

The stems are about index finger size. I have noticed under the T-5's you can keep the lights right on them forcing them to squat more. When I move to the flower room, I will run 7-10 days 20/4 light schedule under mh's so they can stretch and spread some before I flip the switch and change bulbs to hps.

For sure. I've got my T-8's right on my plants! Although an inch separation gives better coverage. Ahh I want to try coco and smartpots now...

 

[Raiderfan420]

For sure. I've got my T-8's right on my plants! Although an inch separation gives better coverage. Ahh I want to try coco and smartpots now...

Yeah the I really like the smart pots. They prune the roots.

 

[HighTolerance]

For sure. I've got my T-8's right on my plants! Although an inch separation gives better coverage. Ahh I want to try coco and smartpots now...

Brother Shady, in case you missed in my post, I am running half smart pots (5 gal) and half sq plastic pots (3 gal).

There is no difference in the 5 gal and the 3 gallon pots at all in my grow. So when you order smart pots be sure to order 1-3 gallon unless you are planning on growing a major size tree. Coco should need a small pot size than soil for a same size plant, I don't know yet why but from reading and seeing friends experience that seems to be the case.

 

[Shady]

^^^ awesome heads-up!!! I missed that, but I'm lit too... :D

I'd like to try coco in the future... Very near future as soon as I get some ends, but I want to be prepared. I also will do a couple plants in my same soil mix so I can perfect that... Can the smart pots be used with soil? Also what kind of coco is best? I've read about bricks, coir, shreds, etc... :thinking

 

[HighTolerance]

Bro, I have read that folks using smart pots using soil really love it, as far as my opinion, I am quite certain it will work well.

All the coco comes from the same place Sri Lankan coconut triangle of the world. Just depends on how the company treats them.

I also used two different cocos bonticare cocogro vs canna coco, no difference what so ever. If you can get any of these you will be golden. I know folks like canna a lot just the smell and consistency of botanicare cocogro, i like it more, but in just a week or so after feeding with a bit run off all the coco is the same give the size is the same.

Next round I am actually gonna try Coconot with Vermi soil amendment. their company rep swore that it would give better results than just coco.

 

[Raiderfan420]

You can def use soil in smart pots.. I have a friend here that uses soil in them and has great results.

 

[HighTolerance]

raider definitely go for the 3 gal vs 5 for the next run. since you water every other day, the plants will uptake more nutes in the 3 gallon because it will dry quicker. I am doing smaller pots of the next run. I see no difference between the 3 vs 5 gallon in my current run.

 

[Raiderfan420]

raider definitely go for the 3 gal vs 5 for the next run. since you water every other day, the plants will uptake more nutes in the 3 gallon because it will dry quicker. I am doing smaller pots of the next run. I see no difference between the 3 vs 5 gallon in my current run.

I was actually thinking of stepping down from 7 gal to 5 gal. I don't know though man..you hear all the talk about the bigger the better, but I agree it would seem that the plants would suck up more of the nutes in 3 or 5 gal. I would also save on nutes.

 

[HighTolerance]

I was actually thinking of stepping down from 7 gal to 5 gal. I don't know though man..you hear all the talk about the bigger the better, but I agree it would seem that the plants would suck up more of the nutes in 3 or 5 gal. I would also save on nutes.

All the talk about bigger the better is for soil. All the top coco growers I have conversed with seem to agree that if using smaller pots you will benefit more from coco.

I actually observed closely today after posting earlier and the 3 gal potters are doing better than 5 gallons. I really think I could get away with 2 gallon as I know some one who is growing plants slightly smaller than me in 1 gallon with coco.

Definitely if you want to do 5 gallon that will be good too, but I would suggest at least do a few in 3 gallon to see if it makes a difference.

 

[Raiderfan420]

Day 47 flower
I took a few flash shots tonight. If you haven't figured it out yet, I post lots of pics. I figure there isn't much to report, so why not just show some pics.

The last one is the final resting place of the two mystery seeds that appear to be males.

 

[Raiderfan420]

All the talk about bigger the better is for soil. All the top coco growers I have conversed with seem to agree that if using smaller pots you will benefit more from coco.

I actually observed closely today after posting earlier and the 3 gal potters are doing better than 5 gallons. I really think I could get away with 2 gallon as I know some one who is growing plants slightly smaller than me in 1 gallon with coco.

Definitely if you want to do 5 gallon that will be good too, but I would suggest at least do a few in 3 gallon to see if it makes a difference.

Yeah Bro, I hear ya. I have heard the same from most coco growers, but most of them are using some type of hydro set-up..ebb/flo or recirc. I am not sure how much of a difference it makes. I want to see the root systems in the 7 gal first. So I'll decide after harvest so I can see what those roots look like. Another thing is I should get a more even canopy and more tops in my next round which should make them drink more. Have you heard from coir growers that use a run to waste sytem on the pot sizes?

 

[HighTolerance]

Yeah Bro, I hear ya. I have heard the same from most coco growers, but most of them are using some type of hydro set-up..ebb/flo or recirc. I am not sure how much of a difference it makes. I want to see the root systems in the 7 gal first. So I'll decide after harvest so I can see what those roots look like. Another thing is I should get a more even canopy and more tops in my next round which should make them drink more. Have you heard from coir growers that use a run to waste sytem on the pot sizes?

Yes I have heard the same from DTW (dirty train wreck) coco growers. We will def share some root mass pix to see how they differ in accordance to our strain and watering schedule, shit we might even be able to learn something out of a photo comparison of our root mass.