Converting a shipping container to underground grow space

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Seems like one of these could possibly be constructed out of a simple solar panel and a cheap air pump. You could likely build one with some junk you have laying around approximately $50 in supplies... ie. PVC pipe... The water seer looks like a scam from where I stand, unfortunately. It's mindboggling that a good idea's like these (that can solve real world problems) are hijacked by greedy fucks simply out to make a buck.

It's a good idea, but only feasible in humid or at best, semi-arid climates. But certainly not worth $1,500 a pop....
I have to say, the one we built work fine. It's been tested in the desert, Sahara, and it works. It only needs 20% humidity to work.
We built one using a plastic 55 gallon food drum with a PVC pipe. I've posted the diagram here before.
It's not a scam. It was invented by a college student trying to help others and it was sidelined by governments. They don't want their people happy and healthy.
 
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I have to say, the one we built work fine. It's been tested in the desert, Sahara, and it works. It only needs 20% humidity to work.
We built one using a plastic 55 gallon food drum with a PVC pipe. I've posted the diagram here before.
It's not a scam. It was invented by a college student trying to help others and it was sidelined by governments. They don't want their people happy and healthy.
The same people that believe the government wants to help them are the same that believe a stripper loves them 🤣😂🤣
 
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This would be my way of obtaining water in an area.
I have to say, the one we built work fine. It's been tested in the desert, Sahara, and it works. It only needs 20% humidity to work.
We built one using a plastic 55 gallon food drum with a PVC pipe. I've posted the diagram here before.
It's not a scam. It was invented by a college student trying to help others and it was sidelined by governments. They don't want their people happy and healthy.
Pretty good imagination you've got going on there.... Sidelined by the government, and don't want people happy.... I bet you've got all sort's of "theories" on this subject. 😂 🤣😅

I guess that's what you get when you walk into a bunker thread....

Here's a novel idea for obtaining clean water, that the "government" will have difficult time keeping everyone from doing.
 
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Because of my job in the Army, I know first hand how little the gov cares for it's people.
And it's gotten so much worse since the election.
I've seen the Gov order a water project shut down because the local Gov did not want people to have access to water unless they provided it.
You may not think so, but the majority of Governments are setup to handle slaves, not citizens.

You are totally spoiled by living in America.
 
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-Lighting is in the mail
-Humidity factor is TBD, either need a dehu or humidifier which can easily be installed but will not know until the box is fully installed
-12" cloudline fan and ducting is on order which will be routed into the crawlspace (840 cf will end up being total area dedicated to plants, the remaining 200 cf will be separated workspace )
- plant count will start small and scale as I gain experience
- I live in the country and have a singular neighbor on my side of the street up a ways from me so discretion on the install does not concern me.

This thread contains quite a few answers already to your concerns but some cannot be answered until the project is complete. Won't know how Temps/humidity act until it's actually in the ground. That's really the only unknown for me. But I've got the skills and equipment to do just about anything I want to modify my grow space.

Cheers and enjoy the ride.
I'm eager to get it placed.
I admire the grit, and the audacity to take on a project such as this actually. I would be looking at putting some rocks/gravel/sand underneath, grading it in a direction, and creating some sort of pit in which you can remove any water that might become a problem at some point. Even a single freak rain could really screw things up, so getting your drainage specs in line here is really something you want to consider well, before backing that thing down into the pit. I would have your sump area off to the side, and not totally underneath, so that you can access it, and service it.

There's a lot that can go wrong here, so you need to consider the most extreme forces at play, and make sure you've got a plant for it. Coarse rock covered with sand is how we used to bury things when I worked with my father doing plumbing projects, I think you should consider what the shipping container will be sitting upon very carefully.

I am eager to see the result, because I have a very similar situation, a 40 foot trailer, and an entire canyon of dirt to fill over it. I've also got a backhoe front loader, if I can ever manage to get it into the spot. Just seems like a daunting project from where I stand. Will be very cool, but as they say, the devil is in the details.
 
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Because of my job in the Army, I know first hand how little the gov cares for it's people.
And it's gotten so much worse since the election.
I've seen the Gov order a water project shut down because the local Gov did not want people to have access to water unless they provided it.
You may not think so, but the majority of Governments are setup to handle slaves, not citizens.

You are totally spoiled by living in America.
Because of your job in the Army, you know yada, yada, yada.... Sounds like scratched record too me. What exactly is "spoiled" about how I'm living here in America? Fill me in, I'm eager to understand these things....

Fill in this pollywog AO from the US Navy. My kind doesn't seem quite as enlightened on this subject, as Army cannon fodder seems to be...
 
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Hot and cold water on demand
Electricity at flip off a switch
Indoor plumbing

Just to name a few...

Anyway back to the badass bunker building

would agree with a gravel bed to help with water that does make its way down there, not really seeing benefit of sump if the waterproofing is done right to begin with which seems to be OPs plan of attack
 
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Spoiled is getting something that you don't appreciate, selfishness, etc. Just because we have electricity and running water does not make someone spoiled. I know a lot of Americans that could live in a log cabin with no problems as they chop wood for the winter. And where are you from?? Since you have the internet and a computer you must be just as spoiled, by your logic.
 
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I'm a big K.I S.S. guy (Keep It Simple Stupid)😛

All I am worried about is getting water, electric, and venting to my unit and it's off to the races.
I would suggest using something like pvc... It's cheap, and you can do lots with it. Say if you want to run your electric, run it though the pipe, so you can always fish another line in there, (pull lines) later down the line. If it's wide bore enough, and you keep a fish line in there, you can always pull another line though in the future. ie. upgrades to your unit. Something to think about.

With venting, I would take a similar approach. Running pvc will hold up indefinitely, and you could run them off in any directions, and simply make them into stealth airflow chambers. I would think there's a multitude of ways they can be hidden. For example, pipe it up, cap it on top, with vents on the sides, then pile big rocks around it. ie. looks like a rock pile. I think having at minimum, a input, and an output, maybe at both ends of the container, and I would go for at minimum, (2) 6 inch lines (or bigger) on both sides, that way you've got plenty of reserve for increasing air flow.... Especially when conditions are optimal, and your not wanting to use active cooling measures.

Another idea would be to have a line from the house going in, so you could pump dry/cool air from within the house or basement. Maybe run a dehumid unit on the inside of the house, and force the air out into the container. There's so many possibilities here, but at the end of the day, the more hookups you have, the more options you'll have at your disposal later down the line.

Same thing could be done for an ejection line, so that if you ever get some ground seepage, your sump will auto fill, and eject it somewhere, and it will be absorbed by the ground in a area graded away from the container....


When you back it in, maybe leave air spaces, (all around) so you can circulate into the space, and use the soil itself as heatsinks. Although, you would need to devise a method to keep the walls from collapsing during freezing, thawing, rain... ect. You'll likely get better results by simply making direct contact with the container and the soil, IMO. If you have excellent weather coating, you could even water the area, so that you improve your heat dispersal.

The thermal conductivity of water is 0.598 W/m·K at 20 °C. Water is an excellent conductor of heat, it conducts heat about 20 times better than air.
 
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Spoiled is getting something that you don't appreciate, selfishness, etc. Just because we have electricity and running water does not make someone spoiled. I know a lot of Americans that could live in a log cabin with no problems as they chop wood for the winter. And where are you from?? Since you have the internet and a computer you must be just as spoiled, by your logic.
Never said I wasn't 😉
 
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Because of your job in the Army, you know yada, yada, yada.... Sounds like scratched record too me. What exactly is "spoiled" about how I'm living here in America? Fill me in, I'm eager to understand these things....

Fill in this pollywog AO from the US Navy. My kind doesn't seem quite as enlightened on this subject, as Army cannon fodder seems to be...
If you've been over seas then you should already know what I'm talking about.
 
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Spoiled is getting something that you don't appreciate, selfishness, etc. Just because we have electricity and running water does not make someone spoiled. I know a lot of Americans that could live in a log cabin with no problems as they chop wood for the winter. And where are you from?? Since you have the internet and a computer you must be just as spoiled, by your logic.
Yes, I am spoiled to some degree. We all are to one extent or another. Americans have not had to endure public beatings in over a hundred years. Americans throw away more food than some countries eat. The American way of life is to be spoiled, its just part of the culture. I'm not picking on any one person, just that without realizing it, most Americans have no clue what hardship really is.
 
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Yes, I am spoiled to some degree. We all are to one extent or another. Americans have not had to endure public beatings in over a hundred years. Americans throw away more food than some countries eat. The American way of life is to be spoiled, its just part of the culture. I'm not picking on any one person, just that without realizing it, most Americans have no clue what hardship really is.


What is hardship?? Losing everything in the 2008 market crash? Becoming homeless because of it? It's all relative to peoples standards of living. And you only endure a public beating when you break the law, people in prison here are getting raped, I rather get beaten in public lol
 
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What is hardship?? Losing everything in the 2008 market crash? Becoming homeless because of it? It's all relative to peoples standards of living. And you only endure a public beating when you break the law, people in prison here are getting raped, I rather get beaten in public lol
I'm not going to argue. I've made my point.

So, how many 'windows' do you plan on having in your underground grow? 😂

I'm wondering if you are planning any kind of automation for the container.
 
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The same people that believe the government wants to help them are the same that believe a stripper loves them 🤣😂🤣
When we objectify the government like it's a person, or in your case a "stripper", I think it's a rabbit hole. How do people even go here? The government isn't "someone" it's an organization, just like any other, and it's run like any other business or corporations. It's always going to do what's in it's "perceived" best overall interest, (at the time) and it's orchestrated by millions of individuals, all with competing interest and agenda's..... Government is the side rails of a society, without it there would be nothing besides anarchy and chaos.

I think the viewpoint is simplistic, and not based in reality.

I'm the last person to defend much of what the government is currently doing. But at the same time, at minimum want to wrap my head around it correctly.
How can you even fight it, if you don't understand it?

 
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