Kanzeon's Perpetual Growth and Death Thread

[amekins]

Sounds like a bunch of drama to me... Don't know why it's being posted to Kanzon's timeline, but that's something for him to sort out. Seems awful rude thing to do IMO, bombing his thread like this; everyone is entitled to an opinion. However, it doesn't cost anything to be civil, a little professional, or grown up.



That thing looks awful sativa there. Almost as skinny leaves as my landrace Thai.
Sadly, I've got an inspection coming up Monday, so I might try and save one of these out of the bunch, but some of them are going to get culled. Will make the decisions shortly. Strechy little girls, this one's like 3-4 weeks I believe, lol.

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[amekins]

i should add todds only connection to the lemontree is a dude named brad whos one of the founders of guild extracts..i introduced brad to the lemontree so it extra negates todds opinion ...another interesting note about todd is how when i showed him my nevilles haze bx 8 thats actually from santa cruz since 1988 he was convinced its not haze....the difference being ive actually smoked haze and can still comment on haze..todd has literally never smoked real lemontree and refused to purchase or try my samples for freee out of jealousy ....the bad cut of my lemontree just wont the emerald cup in the gelonade from alienlabs and connceted...todd got really butthurt and jealous over that and freaked out on me one day over text just like he does to everybody when id been nothing but nice sharing the hash and buds i get with him regularly of his own accord and request not mine...those reading are simply welcome to believe the haze guy whos reputation is simply that of flipping out on community members and causing drama and facing accusations of lying or you can believe the guy who started the company and is runnning the preservation project and breeding proects of the lemontree ...end rant

Wtf

 

[Kanzeon]

TBH I don't really care, they're both trying to preserve the integrity of their work. I'm not taking sides because I wasn't there but I appreciate both breeders chiming in to clear things up.

@lemontree420 I'd be happy to run some of your beans alongside the Lemon Tree x ON Haze if you want.

 

[Kanzeon]

Repotted all 20 PKO's today, since some of them are already starting to differentiate. It's stupid how fast these things grow, far faster than even the Hazes and Golden Tiger. They're bigger than everything in the flowering tent except for one of the Blue Dream x ON Haze males that was dropped over a month earlier. There aren't many differences between the F1's and F2's yet, but obvs flowering is when they're going to show it. I'll be topping and training them, but even with that I might have to turn the late veg tent into a flowering spot to make room.

I just sprayed the plants with the neem/tea tree foliar, after the glycerine/xanthan one. Later tonight I'll clear out some of the dudes in the seedling tent and repot the Goldfish plants. I'll probably kill this Ghani dude soon, once the plants that I hit him to look pollinated. Gotta make room for the fucking platoon of PKO's that'll differentiate belligerently in the next couple weeks.

 

[Kanzeon]

Digging this tonight. Some pretty interesting post-rock, somewhat like God is an Astronaut.

 

[KingKobi]

Just finished trimming the Lemon Citron, Moscow Blueberry, and second PKO. The first one vaped well, but was obviously the least vigorous and the end result reflects that.

The Lemon Citron's initial vape was beautiful. Not quite exactly lemon zest, more like lemon meringue pie filling. But it absolutely hits the note of lemon that I was looking for. I'm anticipating it getting better as it cures, of course.

Also, even seeded, that Tree of Life is a nice smoke. Chill, meditative, calming. I might circle back around and give these genetics another shot down the line

Eventually I want to make a strain that tastes like a Riesling from Alsace. Nose and flavors of lemon pith/zest, elderflower/lily, and diesel/petrol. Likely a couple years out, but I feel like I've got the building blocks now.

Hell ooooo. Love me some Alsace (and Chablis!) We gotta talk wine one day but i have 25 odd pages of your bloody thread to catch up on :)

 

[Kanzeon]

G13 Hashplant

G13 Haze

Silverfields

Afgaan 90

 

[Kanzeon]

That Haze dude has started chucking off stupid amounts of pollen. I'll let him go for another week or so, grab a bunch more pollen, and then reveg him. Same with the Afghani dude, except he'll get killed instead. The tighter-noded Diesel Ghash dude got topped and will get revegged until I find a target for him, the other one got culled along with the weaker Silk Road Skunk.

Next to chop will be that first Orient Express, likely next week. I'll likely replace that with Orange Gasm, though the G13 Hazeplant clone has taken off and is quickly becoming the largest plant in the late veg tent. After that it's a toss-up between the Ghanis, Haze x Kali China, and the G13 Hazes. Bubba Hash and Ghash might even finish this month.

Guava Dawg x Pedro will go down today! Next week will be Motorbreath 15 x Pedro, then Pipatxu x G13 Hazeplant. After that will likely be Hazeman's Escaped, which is [G13 x (G13 x {Purple Indica)] which will get hit with the Haze pollen to make a new G13 x Haze cross, this time with actual Haze, G13 with more genetic diversity, and a real pheno hunt.

 

[Kanzeon]

It's kinda surreal how time goes by sometimes. I feel like I just dropped those Blowfish beans, but I culled the first dude today along with the stretchiest, earliest flowering Tin Foil Hat.

Today the Goldfish got repotted. The PKO's are already bigger than almost everything before them, except for a Blue Dream x ON Haze plant that got dropped in late June.

Guava Dawg x Pedro is down.

 

[Kanzeon]

Crossed Tin Foil Hat [(Rugburn OG x Magnum Opus) x Pink Kush] with:

G13 Hazeplant
Valencian Haze (don't worry @Poekie you'll get some seeds )
Haze
Killer Colombian Lamb

I used a couple males to ensure some genetic diversity, but those crosses all should have some magma.

Also took the top off of the uglier G13 Haze and put it in the 18/6 tent to let the seeds finish, putting the last Afghan Mix lady into flowering to take its place. Once she gets hit with pollen from the dude, that'll be the end of the F1's. The Afghan Project F2 is... down the road a ways.

The Interstate Dragons aren't stretching at all, so they're prime candidates for pollen like Haze and Cocoa Puffs. Speaking of chocolate, the KCL fucking reeks of baker's chocolate/chocolate mousse. That'll catch some Cocoa Puffs and Zhe Pinch pollen, too.

 

[Poekie]

Valencian Haze (don't worry @Poekie you'll get some seeds )

Cool, sounds great !

My only worry concerning seeds is when and where can i plant the variety of genetics i have gathered through the years.

I'm gonna need a piece of a valley around here to have enough space...

Maybe something like this.

 

[Kanzeon]

Man. Another day, some more kickass seeds appear. This time they're the ones off of the longer-flowering Haze x Kali China lady, who was pollinated by the G13 Hazeplant keeper dude. Those beans will go down in about a month.

HxKC also got the chop today, though she could have gone another week. Next to come down is a toss-up between Orient Express, Afgaan 90, G13 Hashplant, G13 Haze, Silverfields, and Valencian Haze.

In its place went the first Zhe Pinch and a Silk Road Skunk. Two of the Kali Chinas and the last Blue Dream x ON Haze lady went into bigger pots in the late veg tent to fill it again. I need to take another cut of that G13 Hazeplant in there, it's exploding.

Guava Dawg x Pedro have broken soil! They're pretty little bastards, I'll post some pics later.

Motor Breath 15 (Chemdog D x SFV OG) x Pedro (HP13 (Puck pheno) x HP13 BX2) went down today. Shout out again to @BudGoodman for the beans!

Next to drop is Pipatxu x G13 Hazeplant!

 

[KingKobi]

Man. Another day, some more kickass seeds appear. This time they're the ones off of the longer-flowering Haze x Kali China lady, who was pollinated by the G13 Hazeplant keeper dude. Those beans will go down in about a month.

HxKC also got the chop today, though she could have gone another week. Next to come down is a toss-up between Orient Express, Afgaan 90, G13 Hashplant, G13 Haze, Silverfields, and Valencian Haze.

In its place went the first Zhe Pinch and a Silk Road Skunk. Two of the Kali Chinas and the last Blue Dream x ON Haze lady went into bigger pots in the late veg tent to fill it again. I need to take another cut of that G13 Hazeplant in there, it's exploding.

Guava Dawg x Pedro have broken soil! They're pretty little bastards, I'll post some pics later.

Motor Breath 15 (Chemdog D x SFV OG) x Pedro (HP13 (Puck pheno) x HP13 BX2) went down today. Shout out again to @BudGoodman for the beans!

Next to drop is Pipatxu x G13 Hazeplant!

I know you were thrilled w that Pip recently and u a big fan of that G13 Haze. Really pumped for you to see how the cross goes Could be insane. I will be cheering you on. Best of luck, KK

 

[Kanzeon]

Thanks man! There are definitely some gems to be found in that Pipatxu line.

Speaking of G13 Haze, I harvested the first round of [G13 Haze x (G13 Haze x G13 Hashplant)] beans today from the uglier G13 Haze lady. They were on the earlier side of ready, so hypothetically in the next few weeks the crosses with Orient Express, Ghash, etc will be finishing up. They'll go down in the next few months.

Gave the Tin Foil Hat, Blue Dream x ON Haze, and the Diesel Plant dudes new pots and put them under 24 hours of light to reveg. Took the G13 Hazeplant dude out of the 24 hour tent and back into the 12/12 one for another round of pollen collection as well.

 

[Kanzeon]

Valencian Haze! This pheno was #8, the most vigorous and fastest flowering. This is the lady that got hit with Tin Foil Hat. Sorry about the blurry picture, I keep it pretty windy in there and the cola was swaying as I was trying to get a picture of it.

Afgaan 90, looking like it'll be ready in a couple weeks.

G13 Hashplant, coming down in a week!

And now, the first decent picture of the flowering structure of G13 Hazeplant!

Yup! That'll do. There's so much potential there.

 

[Kanzeon]

G13 Haze is coming down in a couple weeks, too.

The dudes, babies, and undifferentiated plants.

The Sour Soda (bottom left) are looking super weird and throwing off signs of deficiencies in the same soil that the other seedlings are in. Some are rebounding though, it seems.

The 24 hour tent, letting the PKO's (lower left mass of plants) get some veg time before they go under 12/12 to start differentiating. On the bottom is the Haze dude and the Afghan dude, for potential revegging (not that I'm expecting much from the Afghan). As I cull/ move plants from the 12/12 tent, they'll start going in.

 

[amekins]

G13 Haze is coming down in a couple weeks, too.

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The dudes, babies, and undifferentiated plants.

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The Sour Soda (bottom left) are looking super weird and throwing off signs of deficiencies in the same soil that the other seedlings are in. Some are rebounding though, it seems.

The 24 hour tent, letting the PKO's (lower left mass of plants) get some veg time before they go under 12/12 to start differentiating. On the bottom is the Haze dude and the Afghan dude, for potential revegging (not that I'm expecting much from the Afghan). As I cull/ move plants from the 12/12 tent, they'll start going in.

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Do you have any photos of what your typical plant looks like when you start revegging it?

 

[Kanzeon]

Do you have any photos of what your typical plant looks like when you start revegging it?

Male or female? The Haze dude is revegging on the bottom right of the picture with the PKO's. Essentially the earlier it's revegged and the more fan leaves are still attached, the better chance it has.

 

[amekins]

Male or female? The Haze dude is revegging on the bottom right of the picture with the PKO's. Essentially the earlier it's revegged and the more fan leaves are still attached, the better chance it has.

I just have no sense of how much is enough to leave. Female plant that I pollinated revegged but it was teeny. I’m thinking of trying to reveg this blue dream I have if none of these cuts I’ve taken root.

 

[Kanzeon]

I just have no sense of how much is enough to leave. Female plant that I pollinated revegged but it was teeny. I’m thinking of trying to reveg this blue dream I have if none of these cuts I’ve taken root.

4-5 whole leaves, in different spots, should be fine. They also won't reveg under too much light.