Problems with my Flood and drain iws system

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Can anyone diagnose these symptoms? Flood and drain iws system, 60/40 coco claypebbles mix. Would you recommend flushing? Thanks

 

[ThatRapperWeed]

Hey, welcome friend. There's definitely some good people to help you out here. First off if you could provide as much info on your grow as possible, include:
Photo or auto?
What kind of light?
What growing medium?
What food?
What ph when feeding?
How often do you feed?
Temps and humidity in room.
How old are the plants?
How long ago did this start?

 

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Hey, welcome friend. There's definitely some good people to help you out here. First off if you could provide as much info on your grow as possible, include:
Photo or auto?
What kind of light?
What growing medium?
What food?
What ph when feeding?
How often do you feed?
Temps and humidity in room.
How old are the plants?
How long ago did this start?

Hi buddy thanks for your reply. Right I will try answer all them the best as I can.
Photoperiod plant.
2.4x2.4 room with 4 x 600w lights, 3xdimlux turned down to 390w and one standard 600w reflector.
Growing medium is gold label 60/40 coco claypebbles mix.
Vitalink coco full range feed.
Ph is 5.8-6.0
It's a iws flood and drain system 10.5litre pots. I was flooding 1 time a day and now I'm flooding 2times.
The age of the plants are 6week from seed.
Temprature is 27°c
Humidity is not the best 45%.
This actually started not long after transplanting, my ec was 1.6, I've emptied the water butt and now using plain water Ph,d to 5.8, ec is 0.4-0.6, im not sure if this will solve anything but I thought I've gotta start somewhere and try flush them out hoping it's a deficiency. They have been transplanted from 4.5litre pots fully rooted out straight into the system which is 10.5litre. Same medium also.
Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks

 

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Hi buddy thanks for your reply. Right I will try answer all them the best as I can.
Photoperiod plant.
2.4x2.4 room with 4 x 600w lights, 3xdimlux turned down to 390w and one standard 600w reflector.
Growing medium is gold label 60/40 coco claypebbles mix.
Vitalink coco full range feed.
Ph is 5.8-6.0
It's a iws flood and drain system 10.5litre pots. I was flooding 1 time a day and now I'm flooding 2times.
The age of the plants are 6week from seed.
Temprature is 27°c
Humidity is not the best 45%.
This actually started not long after transplanting, my ec was 1.6, I've emptied the water butt and now using plain water Ph,d to 5.8, ec is 0.4-0.6, im not sure if this will solve anything but I thought I've gotta start somewhere and try flush them out hoping it's a deficiency. They have been transplanted from 4.5litre pots fully rooted out straight into the system which is 10.5litre. Same medium also.
Any help would be much appreciated.

Hi buddy thanks for your reply. Right I will try answer all them the best as I can.
Photoperiod plant.
2.4x2.4 room with 4 x 600w lights, 3xdimlux turned down to 390w and one standard 600w reflector.
Growing medium is gold label 60/40 coco claypebbles mix.
Vitalink coco full range feed.
Ph is 5.8-6.0
It's a iws flood and drain system 10.5litre pots. I was flooding 1 time a day and now I'm flooding 2times.
The age of the plants are 6week from seed.
Temprature is 27°c
Humidity is not the best 45%.
This actually started not long after transplanting, my ec was 1.6, I've emptied the water butt and now using plain water Ph,d to 5.8, ec is 0.4-0.6, im not sure if this will solve anything but I thought I've gotta start somewhere and try flush them out hoping it's a deficiency. They have been transplanted from 4.5litre pots fully rooted out straight into the system which is 10.5litre. Same medium also.
Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks

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[Enforcer]

Based on the information provided. I would say you have too much light and not enough humidity. Plants in veg don’t require that much light. That’s why you’re getting the micro growth at the tops. Veg plants also need more humidity than flowering plants. Try to add a humidifier and get the RH up to 65%. I really think fixing those two issues will show a huge improvement.

 

[Wolfe]

Do you ph your water before or after you add nutes? Coco has no nutes in it so you’re pretty much in control of the uptake and ppm level as well. I agree with the statement above, you can use less light in there. It could be your feeding cycle and how the plant is reacting to the ph and ppm of the nutes it’s being given in addition to the extra amount of light. Not going to say bugs but get a loupe out and look anyhow. With bottled nutes it can be difficult to pin point deficiency. Hope you get it dialed in.

 

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Based on the information provided. I would say you have too much light and not enough humidity. Plants in veg don’t require that much light. That’s why you’re getting the micro growth at the tops. Veg plants also need more humidity than flowering plants. Try to add a humidifier and get the RH up to 65%. I really think fixing those two issues will show a huge improvement.

Ok pal, im going drop the lights back and use two 600watts for now instead of 4, I will also buy a humidifier and hopefully i will see a change. I will keep you updated. Thankyou

 

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Do you ph your water before or after you add nutes? Coco has no nutes in it so you’re pretty much in control of the uptake and ppm level as well. I agree with the statement above, you can use less light in there. It could be your feeding cycle and how the plant is reacting to the ph and ppm of the nutes it’s being given in addition to the extra amount of light. Not going to say bugs but get a loupe out and look anyhow. With bottled nutes it can be difficult to pin point deficiency. Hope you get it dialed in.

I ph after I add my nutes pal, I will post a reply on this thread when I've got it dialled in. Hopefully get it sorted

 

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Still having the same problems guys, anymore help would be appreciated. I was currently on 2floods a day on a 24hr timer when I spotted the problems so I tried upping the floods to 4times a day but no improvement. Shall I try turning the system off and letting the coco dry out? I've never had to do this before. I'm also down to 2x600w lights standard reflectors turned down to 500w on digital ballests. I've also adding a little bit of feed so now my ec sits at 1.0-1.2.
I'm using vitalink feed
Calmag
Silicon
Rootstim
Fulvic
Coco a+b
IM SERIOUSLY STUCK ON THIS.

 

[ThatRapperWeed]

Still having the same problems guys, anymore help would be appreciated. I was currently on 2floods a day on a 24hr timer when I spotted the problems so I tried upping the floods to 4times a day but no improvement. Shall I try turning the system off and letting the coco dry out? I've never had to do this before. I'm also down to 2x600w lights standard reflectors turned down to 500w on digital ballests. I've also adding a little bit of feed so now my ec sits at 1.0-1.2.
I'm using vitalink feed
Calmag
Silicon
Rootstim
Fulvic
Coco a+b
IM SERIOUSLY STUCK ON THIS.

I have to agree with what's been said above. Does the problem seem to be getting worse? Keep in mind damaged leaves won't repair but if it's continuing to progress, there's an issue. I don't think you need to flood more frequently although I'm not an expert on flood and drain. This is an odd one and I'll be following. I'll consult with a grower at work too and see if he has any ideas.

 

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It doesn't seem to be getting worse, I'd more say that they aren't growing at all. They seem to be stunted. The new growth is still bright yellow and deformed. Please get back to me if you hear anything from your friend. Thanks pal

 

[Aqua Man]

Back the lights up.

How high up the pots are you flooding?

Do you ever top feed?

Do you check ph daily and adjust?

What's your light schedule and have they gone without for any extended period of time like a power outage or timer malfunction?

 

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Back the lights up.

How high up the pots are you flooding?

Do you ever top feed?

Do you check ph daily and adjust?

What's your light schedule and have they gone without for any extended period of time like a power outage or timer malfunction?

The lights have always been to the roof of the tent around 1.8-2m high. I've got them on 500w on my digital ballests at the moment and the tent is 2.4x2.4, this tent says its suitable for 4x600w which was the plan but when the problems arrised I cut back to two 600w lights. When they flood they are flooding around 3quartes of the pot. I adjust my ph daily and sometimes let it rise from 5.7-6.2. I'm really baffled at the moment and stuck on what the problem could be. My ec is currently 1.1ec
I can grab more photos now. I forgot to add that there are two strains in this room. 8 incredible bulk one side which seem to be worse than the runtzmuffin the other side. The runtz muffin seem to be doing OK but whatever is causing the problems, the runtzmuffin seem to be a little affected too. I will grab some photos of both sides with the lights on and with them off so you can maybe get a better idea. Thankyou for your reply

 

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That's the full room

 

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This is also the incredible bulk strain on the same system the other side of the tent.

 

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Now this is the other side runtzmuffin, alot greener in colour but still showing some signs of something whats affecting the whole system. I need to get to the bottom of this.

 

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Back the lights up.

How high up the pots are you flooding?

Do you ever top feed?

Do you check ph daily and adjust?

What's your light schedule and have they gone without for any extended period of time like a power outage or timer malfunction?

I forgot to add, im on 24hr light and no power outages or anything like that bud. I'm going 24hr light more for simplicity other than 18/6

 

[Aqua Man]

I forgot to add, im on 24hr light and no power outages or anything like that bud. I'm going 24hr light more for simplicity other than 18/6

If ya have a timer personally I'd go 18/6.

 

[Deforced]

I can try that and see what it bring pal