Clones from harvested females

[GarlicBudExpert]

The worse thing you can do with cloning is take your best guess of which plant is the best before a harvest.

Reveging determines the mother plant you'll clone.

Reveg female plants last just as long as pre-flowering females

To ensure a better quality globally it begins with the absolute best of your seed stock.

You will get inferior genetics if you don't harvest firstly then Reveg for future clones to use in your garden

My advice is to harvest so you don't get stuck with inferior clone genetics.

If the plant does hemorphidite then it's life cycle is over and you isolate it and let the feminized seeds begin.

It's a win win for building the stock pile of female plants you need

 

[GarlicBudExpert]

THIS ONE OUTPERFORMED THE REST.
IT WASN'T EVEN THE BEST OF 10,

MAYBE 4TH IN RATING EACH PLANT.

THIS PLANT WILL BE THE MOTHER CLONE PRODUCER AND AS YOU CAN SEE, IT ALSO HAS REVEGGED LIKE A BOSS.

Garlic bud will be crossed with my soon to be male purple headband plants

And I have 1 Sour D

Garlic Giggle will be it's name

And if SD is female

Sour Giggles will be it's name.

Point is the top effect of purple headband is giggling.

 

[growsince79]

Its faster and easier to just clone everything at 3 weeks and flower. No reason to waste all that time revegging.

 

[GarlicBudExpert]

Its faster and easier to just clone everything at 3 weeks and flower. No reason to waste all that time revegging.

I would of made a crucial mistake picking my mother plant pre harvest.
What you may think is the best by it's looks is not the case ever.

Some of your best may and will fall to disease and deficiencies not shown until a full growth cycle is complete.
Lemon plants exist in every seed batch.

The goal is IBL and you want to taste the finished product and use the strongest genetics of your harvested plant.

This plant finished early as well

August 31st 4 weeks flowering.

Now how will a veg clone tell you that?

 

[growsince79]

You can taste the finish product one hell of a lot faster if you take your clones on day 21 vs taking you clone after wasting all that time revegging.

 

[GrowHobo]

I just clone everything around week 1 of 12/12 and wait till harvest to determine what I wanna keep. By then they are large enough to cut up into multiples for the next run. The losers go outside or cut up into compost

 

[growsince79]

You can taste the finish product one hell of a lot faster if you take your clones on day 21 vs taking you clone after wasting all that time revegging.

That may not have come out right. What I mean is this : Say you harvest today and start revegging all your plants. It might be another 4-6 weeks before you have a rooted clone of the winner. If you had everything already cloned, you saved 4-6 weeks.

 

[growsince79]

I just clone everything around week 1 of 12/12 and wait till harvest to determine what I wanna keep. By then they are large enough to cut up into multiples for the next run. The losers go outside or cut up into compost

I like to pick the best 2-3. Even though I can usually pick the best before it's even done drying, sometimes I might change my mind after a month. And sometimes they are just both winners with different great attributes.

 

[GarlicBudExpert]

That may not have come out right. What I mean is this : Say you harvest today and start revegging all your plants. It might be another 4-6 weeks before you have a rooted clone of the winner. If you had everything already cloned, you saved 4-6 weeks.

Good things come to those who wait applies here.

There has to be some documentation of the potency, yield and flowering time differs even with the same plant.

So this could save you IBL hunting for years.

I'm not an expert at IBL and I would think the best of the harvest would cut creating the perfect IBL in less time.

I guess you'd have to grow all the males to full harvest then regenerared the best from that based on male flowering characteristics, potency, and it's disease & mold resistance.

I didn't make it far smoking on that...
Damn I know I got 4 hits on it but it barely looks lit
Shame I set it down like a rookie lol

I love Garlic Bud

 

[growsince79]

What is ibl hunting?

 

[growsince79]

Good things come to those who wait applies here.

There has to be some documentation of the potency, yield and flowering time differs even with the same plant.

So this could save you IBL hunting for years.

I'm not an expert at IBL and I would think the best of the harvest would cut creating the perfect IBL in less time.

I guess you'd have to grow all the males to full harvest then regenerared the best from that based on male flowering characteristics, potency, and it's disease & mold resistance.

I didn't make it far smoking on that...
Damn I know I got 4 hits on it but it barely looks lit
Shame I set it down like a rookie lol

I love Garlic Bud
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I'm not even high, and I have no idea what you are trying to say. How does not taking clones before reveg save years of anything? The clone you make before flower is the same as the clone you made after wasting 6 weeks revegging.

 

[GarlicBudExpert]

I just clone everything around week 1 of 12/12 and wait till harvest to determine what I wanna keep. By then they are large enough to cut up into multiples for the next run. The losers go outside or cut up into compost

Outdoor and clones indoors may run into a

I just clone everything around week 1 of 12/12 and wait till harvest to determine what I wanna keep. By then they are large enough to cut up into multiples for the next run. The losers go outside or cut up into compost

I noticed the indoor and outdoor performed different.

I found that the outdoor one became the master mother

I put my best in 15 gallon pots.
1000 watt super blue
Nitro Bat guano
Then later HPK roots organic

I didn't like it the HPK

I added wood ash when it lacked and struggled to put on buds

Never fails to put the mass on buds.

I never use much fertilizer

I used worm guano tea in the beginning lol

My 10 seeds 9 were female.

They must love that gentle kiss of nitrogen lol

 

[GarlicBudExpert]

I'm not even high, and I have no idea what you are trying to say. How does not taking clones before reveg save years of anything? The clone you make before flower is the same as the clone you made after wasting 6 weeks revegging.

You can't guess the best plant pre harvest

Most only clone a few from the entire seed planting.

Once again you'll not know until post harvest which plant to clone.

 

[growsince79]

You can't guess the best plant pre harvest

Most only clone a few from the entire seed planting.

Once again you'll not know until post harvest which plant to clone.

Who doesn't clone all in a pheno hunt? That's dumb. Just clone all of them and flip asap.

 

[GarlicBudExpert]

What is ibl hunting?

Inbred lines

Where every plant grows the same.

Mine are F2 Garlic bud.

It's a tedious task and can lead to genetic development that was a waste of years because you picked the wrong plant to work with from the beginning.

 

[growsince79]

Inbred lines

Where every plant grows the same.

Mine are F2 Garlic bud.

It's a tedious task and can lead to genetic development that was a waste of years because you picked the wrong plant to work with from the beginning.

Oh I see, you are pheno hunting to make f3's. Still no reason to reveg. Just keep clones of every thing until you whittle it down to your best 10 female and best 10 males. Then you need to breed each male to each female and keep track of them. Now you have 100 packs of seeds. Then plant 100 of each pack. That's 10,000 seeds. Don't forget to clone and label everything.
I don't have space to grow 10,000+ plants to see. I like to stick with my f1s. I have thousands of seeds and everyone so far has been top shelf quality. I don't even do clones anymore.

 

[mysticepipedon]

You can't guess the best plant pre harvest

Most only clone a few from the entire seed planting.

Once again you'll not know until post harvest which plant to clone.

This is how it works — If you don't clone every plant, the plant you didn't clone is the keeper.

 

[growsince79]

This is how it works — If you don't clone every plant, the plant you didn't clone is the keeper.

LOL every time.

 

[growsince79]

This is how it works — If you don't clone every plant, the plant you didn't clone is the keeper.

Very true. Also, just because a clone is the best keeper doesn't mean it's the best breeder. I've made seeds from sister plants where the seeds from #2 made better offspring than the seeds from #1 keeper.

 

[GarlicBudExpert]

Who doesn't clone all in a pheno hunt? That's dumb. Just clone all of them and flip asap.

Tried that ... clones did not all take

So I had a mess of clones,out of a few plants, that had no issues cloning.

Not sure it takes 6 weeks to reveg.

This is week 3 in reveg and the first clone ... is taking great too.

this plant finished in 4 weeks outdoors and luckily I was able to dig it up and bring it inside

Not surprised it's cloning excellent too..

and I took a clone from it.