Should I .... Let Grow, Treat, Defoliate, LST, or Flip 12/12?

[Dothraki]

THIS IS MY FIRST GROW....LEARNING FROM YOU GUYS!!!
Here’s some pics, 3 Pineapple Upside Down Cakes , 1 Lemon Grass, 1 Sour Power bag seed.
4 weeks from seed today
Coco/perlite
78F, 50% RH
PH Buffered Nutrients
300W LED Bar style (SE3000)
3x3 tent

 

[Ponky]

I'd FIM or top em. Is that their finishing space aswell?

 

[Dothraki]

I'd FIM or top em. Is that their finishing space aswell?

Yes. I don’t plan to top though...so maybe I‘ll experiment with LST. Does that need to be done before I flip to flower? So maybe let them grow another week, lst, then flip?

 

[Ponky]

Yes. I don’t plan to top though...so maybe I‘ll experiment with LST. Does that need to be done before I flip to flower? So maybe let them grow another week, lst, then flip?

Then i would install your net and let then start filling up the canopy on it. As they reach the net start tucking and bending.

 

[Dothraki]

Then i would install your net and let then start filling up the canopy on it. As they reach the net start tucking and bending.

Ahh, yes I do have a net. But...if I use the net I won’t be able to reach the back pots very well to water...is that usually an issue when s rigging in a small tent?

 

[2Bad]

Why dont you want to top? lol

 

[Ponky]

Ahh, yes I do have a net. But...if I use the net I won’t be able to reach the back pots very well to water...is that usually an issue when s rigging in a small tent?

Well right now I have a 4x8 with only 2 plants and the canopy is full. So less is more. It needs to be a flexible net. Not a trellis net.

 

[FuriousStyles]

Your plants look nice and healthy. Why you in such a hurry to flip?
Four week from seed, I would top them girls above the second or third true node and give them another 3-4 weeks to fill out.
Have they even shown sex yet?

 

[growsince79]

I would cut the lower branches off, top, and let them grow another week or so.

 

[2Bad]

That's 4 for 4 for topping lol

 

[MIGrampaUSA]

Ahh, yes I do have a net. But...if I use the net I won’t be able to reach the back pots very well to water...is that usually an issue when s rigging in a small tent?

Not always. I've rigged up an auto watering unit using garden manifolds and such. I'll have my wife send me a picture so I can post it as I am currently away from home for work.

The issue you're having is precisely why I said you would likely want a larger tent in the future. It's easier to tend the plants if you have easy access to them. It's why I bought my 6.5 x 6.5 tent. I'm not filling it with plants. Instead, I can comfortably put 10 around the perimeter of the tent leaving the middle open so I can walk up to each plant. I'll post pictures once my wife sends them to me.

Edit: @Dothraki here it is:

 

[MIGrampaUSA]

I would cut the lower branches off, top, and let them grow another week or so.

And I prefer to leave the main stem and LST. Both work fine. The goal is to manage your vertical space and fill up the space horizontally.

 

[growsince79]

Your plants look nice and healthy. Why you in such a hurry to flip?
Four week from seed, I would top them girls above the second or third true node and give them another 3-4 weeks to fill out.
Have they even shown sex yet?

Top and veg another 4 weeks of veg and they won't fit. Depending on strain, I can only grow 1 or 2 plants with that long of veg in a 3 x 3

 

[MIGrampaUSA]

Top and veg another 4 weeks of veg and they won't fit. Depending on strain, I can only grow 1 or 2 plants with that long of veg in a 3 x 3

Same here ... I might attempt a 1 plant scrog in a 3 x 3. I would top that, mainline it, and then let it fill the net before flipping. I've topped ... I've run without topping. Whether or not you get more yield by topping depends on the strain and how long you're willing to veg. By "not topping" and bending my main stem instead, I don't have to wait a few weeks for the cut vegetation to grow back. That is my only reason for not topping.

 

[Dothraki]

Why dont you want to top? lol

No need for me...it would help with space probably but it also puts unneeded stress and time to recover on the plant. If it helped with terps and cannabinoids then I’d be all about it.

Well right now I have a 4x8 with only 2 plants and the canopy is full. So less is more. It needs to be a flexible net. Not a trellis net.

Isn’t a trellis net flexible? Made of string?

Your plants look nice and healthy. Why you in such a hurry to flip?
Four week from seed, I would top them girls above the second or third true node and give them another 3-4 weeks to fill out.
Have they even shown sex yet?

I’m not in a hurry to flip... just want to make sure I’m not missing something I should start now like LST, fixing a deficiency, Switching flower etc.

I would cut the lower branches off, top, and let them grow another week or so.

the fan leaves or branches?

Not always. I've rigged up an auto watering unit using garden manifolds and such. I'll have my wife send me a picture so I can post it as I am currently away from home for work.

The issue you're having is precisely why I said you would likely want a larger tent in the future. It's easier to tend the plants if you have easy access to them. It's why I bought my 6.5 x 6.5 tent. I'm not filling it with plants. Instead, I can comfortably put 10 around the perimeter of the tent leaving the middle open so I can walk up to each plant. I'll post pictures once my wife sends them to me.

Edit: @Dothraki here it is:

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That’s a sweeet setup!

 

[growsince79]

Same here ... I might attempt a 1 plant scrog in a 3 x 3. I would top that, mainline it, and then let it fill the net before flipping. I've topped ... I've run without topping. Whether or not you get more yield by topping depends on the strain and how long you're willing to veg. By "not topping" and bending my main stem instead, I don't have to wait a few weeks for the cut vegetation to grow back. That is my only reason for not topping.

I like to give em a week after topping to flip. But, I usually top about day 14 and flip on 21, depending on strain and the plants being healthy.

 

[ImpulsiveGrower]

THIS IS MY FIRST GROW....LEARNING FROM YOU GUYS!!!
Here’s some pics, 3 Pineapple Upside Down Cakes , 1 Lemon Grass, 1 Sour Power bag seed.
4 weeks from seed today
Coco/perlite
78F, 50% RH
PH Buffered Nutrients
300W LED Bar style (SE3000)
3x3 tent

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Wait a few more weeks man trust me. My first grow I was the same way watching the grass grow day by day wanting to rush the process. Flip now and maybe get an 1 oz per plant. Wait 3-4 weeks and flips and get between 2-4 oz per. If the space allows of course but you will be glad you waited the extra few weeks to double your yeild.

 

[Jakecan]

Like I said in your other post the other day you should top and if you wanna experiment look into manifold or mainlining. I wouldn't bend your plants over. They are quite tight in that tent and I think you're going to run out of space. I wouldn't even tuck I would use a scrog net for support but if you're planning on flipping sooner rather than later just let them grow vertically. They won't hit the roof. Tucking might get messy with all those plants so close together.

 

[growsince79]

Wait a few more weeks man trust me. My first grow I was the same way watching the grass grow day by day wanting to rush the process. Flip now and maybe get an 1 oz per plant. Wait 3-4 weeks and flips and get between 2-4 oz per. If the space allows of course but you will be glad you waited the extra few weeks to double your yeild.

Maybe it they are mostly indica but even then i don't know how they will fit. Flip in one week they should make a couple oz easily-maybe a full tent. 2 weeks would be a full tent easily and probably too full. 4 weeks you will have to defoliate and end up with the same amount as if you flipped sooner. Most of the strains I have, could only go another week max in that tent. Not sure about what you have.

 

[Dothraki]

I’m also curious about how the condition of the plant in veg affects the flowering process. Like, right now there’s some mag deficiency and maybe some minor other “not so perfect” issues.

If I fix those and let it veg wouldn’t that be ideal? I feel like if I flip them while small issues are happening those issues will intensify during flower. Is that correct?

Ok so I’m hearing between 1 and 4 weeks until flip...so maybe I’ll go 2