Wtf? buds turning black and purple

  • Thread starter greenjoe
  • Start date
  • Tagged users None
greenjoe

greenjoe

1,589
163
Does any body else use Dr. Greenthumb seeds and if so do you also have the buds turning black and purple...I am not saying that it is a seed problem...i just want to know what to do about it....but only his seeds are doing this...ahhhhhrrrrggggg...i have 4 strains going these ones ..og kush and iranian g13 and texada timewarp and the purps from bcbd...they have none of this and i even rubbed them together...still clean...i just don't know
oh and it is not soft or furry mold, its like in the leaves
 
Wtf buds turning black and purple
Wtf buds turning black and purple 2
Wtf buds turning black and purple 3
Wtf buds turning black and purple 4
JAWS

JAWS

5,803
313
hey GREEN:hunter:
perfect pics of PHOSPHORUS LOCK OUT....

When your plants are deficient in phosphorus, this can overall reduce the size of your plants. Not enough causes slow growth and causes the plant to become weak, to little amount of Phosphorus causes slow growths in leaves that may or may not drop off. The edges all around the leaves or half of the leaves can be brownish and work its way inwards a bit causing the part of the leaves to curl up in the air a bit. Fan leaves will show dark greenish/purplish and yellowish tones along with a dullish blue color to them. Sometimes the stems can be red, along with red petioles that can happen when having a Phosphorus deficiency. This isn’t a sure sure sign of you having one though, but can be a sign. Some strains just show the red petioles and stems from its genes.
So pretty much the overall dark green color with a purple, red, or blue tint to the fan leaves is a good sign of a Phosphorus deficiency. Having Cold weather (below 50F/10C) can make phosphorous absorption very troublesome for plants.
Many people get a Phosphorus deficiency confused with a fungus problem because the ends of the leaves look like a fungus problem, But the damage occurs at the end of the leaves. side of the leaves and has a glass like feeling to it as if it had a ph problem. Parts affected by a phosphorus deficiency are: Older Leaves, Whole plant, Petioles.

Too much Phosphorus levels affect plant growth by suppressing the uptake of: Iron, potassium and Zinc, potentially causing deficiency symptoms of these nutrients to occur def in plants. A Zinc deficiency is most common under excessive phosphorus conditions,
As well as causing other nutrients to have absorption troubles like zinc and copper. Phosphorus fluctuates when concentrated and combined with calcium



Problems with Phosphorus being locked out by PH troubles
Cold wet soils, acid or very alkaline soils, compacted soil.


Soil

Phosphorus gets locked out of soil growing at ph levels of 4.0-5.5
Phosphorus is absorbed best in soil at a ph level of 6.0-7.5 (wouldn’t recommend having a ph of over 7.0 in soil) Anything out of the ranges listed will contribute to a Phosphorus deficiency.


Hydro and Soil less Mediums

Phosphorus gets locked out of Hydro and Soil less Mediums at ph levels of 6.0-8.5.
Phosphorus is absorbed best in Hydro and Soil less Mediums at ph levels of 4.0- 5.8. (Wouldn’t recommend having a ph over 6.5 in hydro and soil less mediums.) Best range for hydro and soil less mediums is 5.0 to 6.0. Anything out of the ranges listed will contribute to a Phosphorus Deficiency.



Solution to fixing a Phosphorus deficiency
Some deficiency during flowering is normal, but too much shouldn't be tolerated. Any chemical or organic fertilizers that have Phosphorus in them will fix a Phosphorus deficiency. If you have a phosphorus deficiency you should use any N-P-K ratio that is over 5.Again Peters all purpose 20-20-20 is a good mix. Miracle grow Tomato plant food, Miracle grow All purpose plant food (Only mixing at ½ strength when using chemical nutrients, or it will cause nutrient burn!) Other forms of phosphorus supplements are: Bone meal, which is gradual absorption, I suggest making it into a tea for faster use, where bone/blood meal is slow acting, but when made into a tea it works quicker! Fruit eating bat guano, which is fast absorption, Worm castings, which is gradual absorption, Fish meal, which is medium absorption, Soft Rock Phosphate, which is medium absorption, Jamaican or Indonesian Guano, which is fast absorption. Crabshell, which is slow absorption. Tiger Bloom , which is fast absorption.

Here is a list of things to help fix a Phosphrus Deficiency.

Chemical

Advanced nutrients Bloom (0-5-4)
Vita Bloom (0-7-5)
BC Bloom (1.1-4.4-7)
GH Flora Bloom (0-5-4)
GH Maxi Bloom (5-15-14)
GH Floranova Bloom (4-8-7)
Dyna-Gro Bloom (3-12-6)
Fox Farm Tiger Bloom (2-8-4)
Awsome Blossums

Organic

Dr. Hornby's Iguana Juice Bloom (4-3-6)
Advanced Nutrients Mother Earth Bloom (.5-1.5-2)
Fox Farm Big Bloom (.01-.3-.7)
Earth Juice Bloom (0-3-1)
Pure Blend Bloom (2.5-2-5)
Pure Blend Pro Bloom (2.5-2-5)
Buddswell (0-7-0)
Sea Island Jamaican Bat Guano (1-10-0)
Indonesian Bat Guano (0-13-0)
Rainbow Mix Bloom (1-9-2)
Earth Juice Bloom (0-3-1)
BIO BLOOM (2-6-3.5)
AGE OLD BLOOM (5-10-5)
ALASKA MORBLOOM (0-10-10)
METANATURALS ORGANIC BLOOM (1-5-5)


bada-bing-bada-BOOM.
Phosphorusdef

good luck brother:hunter:
 
greenjoe

greenjoe

1,589
163
i just flooded them with bloom builder......5-30-5....is this a good idea?

Jaws.... thanks a ton man!



Oh and by the way their growth was never stunted..i now have a 92" OG Kush..and 3.. 82" so growth is good
 
JAWS

JAWS

5,803
313
hey GREEN:pimp:
glad that could help ya out bro, was not really anything done by me just a copy-n-paste thingy majig....


no expert by any means but your # seem correct on the flood treatment, just remembe TO LOOK TO NEW GROWTH for signs of improvement because the infected leaves WILL NOT RECOVER...
again good luck bro:fighting0085:
 
greenjoe

greenjoe

1,589
163
Does any body else use Dr. Greenthumb seeds and if so do you also have the buds turning black and purple...I am not saying that it is a seed problem...i just want to know what to do about it....but only his seeds are doing this...ahhhhhrrrrggggg...i have 4 strains going these ones ..og kush and iranian g13 and texada timewarp and the purps from bcbd...they have none of this and i even rubbed them together...still clean...i just don't know
oh and it is not soft or furry mold, its like in the leaves

I just want to say that it WAS NOT DR.GREENTHUMBS SEEDS....Thanks again Jaws...
 
JAWS

JAWS

5,803
313
no problem joe, just hope things are looking better for you bro..
peace:rasta2:
 
xX Kid Twist Xx

xX Kid Twist Xx

Premium Member
Supporter
3,581
263
from doing a little reading seems the purple is more common in seedlings and as plants get older they grow out of it. It happens with tomatoes alot if it gets to cold.

great job JAWS
 
greenjoe

greenjoe

1,589
163
She still has some purple,but she is still flowering...so i can't complain
 
greenjoe

greenjoe

1,589
163
so here is a pic from the purple stuff happening to every one of my plants, some are 20 miles apart from each other and some are at friends yards..EVERYONE has them, so i believe it is from seed.BUT IT DOES NOT AFFECT THE BUDS OR EFFECTS of smoking it...None were suppose to be purple. So if you see it don't worry, they will be ok:cool0044
The first 3 are iranian g13 and the last one(out of focus) is OG Kush
 
DSC02850
DSC02851
DSC02852
DSC02853
Jmaes Mabley

Jmaes Mabley

709
143
Anyone still dealing with this issue? We still are and have been for at least 5 years. Ive posted in this forum, and other forums. Im convinced its leaf hoppers, and is a phytoplasma virus. Its not ph and isnt a phosphorus deficiency.
 
W

wildtype

8
3
Anyone still dealing with this issue? We still are and have been for at least 5 years. Ive posted in this forum, and other forums. Im convinced its leaf hoppers, and is a phytoplasma virus. Its not ph and isnt a phosphorus deficiency.
YES
I am dealing with this issue in the north east. I can't find any answers, and it's not good purple. The bud turns out crunchy and dried up. I want to know more about this phytoplasma virus, and how would you treat that? enzyme spray?
 
Jmaes Mabley

Jmaes Mabley

709
143
Its most likely a virus, and there really is no treatment for it that I know of. Best thing you can really do is try to make the plant as healthy as possible, and proper PH. Theres a place that tests for several viruses, and it costs $250. Im thinkng about havint some plants tested. It would probably be worth the money, but its not a sure thing that what they test for is the problem. Heres a link to a place that tests. Theres a 10 Tesst Minimum. $250.

Duke Diamond VA gave me the info. He used to run Dominion Seed Company, and had a bunch of killer strains, but got into some trouble. He will probably get back into business. He had some of the best stuff around.

https://tumigenomics.com
 
Last edited:
Spotsy

Spotsy

75
18
Does any body else use Dr. Greenthumb seeds and if so do you also have the buds turning black and purple...I am not saying that it is a seed problem...i just want to know what to do about it....but only his seeds are doing this...ahhhhhrrrrggggg...i have 4 strains going these ones ..og kush and iranian g13 and texada timewarp and the purps from bcbd...they have none of this and i even rubbed them together...still clean...i just don't know
oh and it is not soft or furry mold, its like in the leaves
Hey.. one question are u growing outside? Because I kid u not ALL5 of my plants had this crap also.. just in the growing tops... I'm pretty sure it's a fiorm of botrytis.. black spot mold.. no b. S. When I saw your pic. That's exactly what mine looked like at, but as they have started to bud , they have not been so susceptible.. how by I fixed it was by going over every leaf and top and if u see it. Cut it out.. I probably threw out a quarter on Each plant.. I still find the inner branch tops infected sometimes... I put a big fan outside in my garden and I also used pure crop one
YES
I am dealing with this issue in the north east. I can't find any answers, and it's not good purple. The bud turns out crunchy and dried up. I want to know more about this phytoplasma virus, and how would you treat that? enzyme spray?
 
Jmaes Mabley

Jmaes Mabley

709
143
All my plants are outside. Ive never seen it happen on inside plants of the same strains. Weve been having this problem for 8 years. Been growing since 1972, and never had this happen until 8 years ago. Have lost 1000s of plants.
 
W

wildtype

8
3
All my plants are outside. Ive never seen it happen on inside plants of the same strains. Weve been having this problem for 8 years. Been growing since 1972, and never had this happen until 8 years ago. Have lost 1000s of plants.
20220827 175647
 
W

wildtype

8
3
Same here - only on outdoor. Implying the presence of something only outdoor, or airborne at the least. I heard the answer on a podcast a few years ago but cannot remember. They argued against the regular expression of purple, because it is different. so Someone out there knows
I can't even say the strain matters, nor the location / hrs. of sunlight / etc.
Have you successfully stopped it?
Sometimes I see the bud grow out of it for a day (new growth of bud unaffected) by next become covered
 
Jmaes Mabley

Jmaes Mabley

709
143
No we havent successfully treated it. Sometimes they grow out of it, sometimes they act like they make a comeback, but like you said, quickly take a turn for the worse, and most of the time it renders the plat dead, or useless.
Im inclined to believe its a virus transmitted by leafhoppers.
 
Spotsy

Spotsy

75
18
Does any body else use Dr. Greenthumb seeds and if so do you also have the buds turning black and purple...I am not saying that it is a seed problem...i just want to know what to do about it....but only his seeds are doing this...ahhhhhrrrrggggg...i have 4 strains going these ones ..og kush and iranian g13 and texada timewarp and the purps from bcbd...they have none of this and i even rubbed them together...still clean...i just don't know
oh and it is not soft or furry mold, its like in the leaves
Hey.. one question are u growing outside? Because I kid u not ALL5 of my plants had this crap also.. just in the growing tops... I'm pretty sure it's a fiorm of botrytis.. black spot mold.. no b. S. When I saw your pic. That's exactly what mine looked like at, but as they have started to bud , they have not been so susceptible.. how by I fixed it was by going over every leaf and top and if u see it. Cut it out.. I probably threw out a quarter on Each plant.. I still find the inner branch tops infected sometimes... I put a big fan outside in my garden and I also used pure crop oneView attachment 1275222View attachment 1275223View attachment 1275224
All my plants are outside. Ive never seen it happen on inside plants of the same strains. Weve been having this problem for 8 years. Been g
 
Spotsy

Spotsy

75
18
I thought I was the only one who had this problem.. I was out there today and for the first time only found a few buds with it,, but like I said in other post, I'm super aggressive with cutting , plucking buds off at 1st sign of this stuff.. I basically went nuts with the clippers.. but I also got the plants super healthy by use of roots Organics nute line. These pics were taken about 3 months into grow. Frustrating shit ,, cause I don't know what causes it...
 
IMG 20220627 093827077 HDR
IMG 20220627 093824872 HDR
Top Bottom