Leaf deficiency first time grower

[MasterCookie]

Incorrect. I'll see myself out of this bro thread.

Bro if this isn't the definition of organic.. instead of you see yourself out if the bro thread.. please see yourself out of growing. It's ok you stay to your religious practices. But don't start to protray your misinformation.

 

[SylviaLynn]

Well, that was rude and unnecessary.

 

[MasterCookie]

Well, that was rude and unnecessary.

Maybe it was rude.. however it was very necessary and factual. I always use photos as reference because people assume they know you.. but when reality is shown humility sets in. I didn't degrade anyone growing practices I actually agreed with it. But if you keep pushing regurgitate information you read online and cannot back it up with actual practical facts. These behaviors is what make new growers spend loads of money on unnecessary stuff.

 

[TSD]

@Shaded_One knows his shit.... but anyway, that sounds like you are giving way too much mag, cal mag plus Epsom? Why? That is a pretty high dose of calmag too... it's pretty hard to lockout soil, but you may have done it by mixing all those different things together. Simple is always better. @Aqua Man could this be lockout or just an overload of stuff?
Also sounds like you're watering too frequently and not allowing much of a dry back?

 

[Shaded_One]

Bro if this isn't the definition of organic.. instead of you see yourself out if the bro thread.. please see yourself out of growing. It's ok you stay to your religious practices. But don't start to protray your misinformation.View attachment 1303129View attachment 1303130View attachment 1303131

Not even worth the energy sir. Have a good one.

Just do me one favour - do not EVER tell people that synthetics and organics are the exact same feed rates. And before you go spouting off about guys regurgitating things they read online you should probably browse through my grow journals/threads. Saves yourself some face.

 

[MasterCookie]

Not even worth the energy sir. Have a good one.

Just do me one favour - do not EVER tell people that synthetics and organics are the exact same feed rates. And before you go spouting off about guys regurgitating things they read online you should probably browse through my grow journals/threads. Saves yourself some face.

It is the same... trust me. You may not have grown alot of plants in your lifetime to compile enough information.. but it is the same. Only thing different is the source of the nutrients. I should know all this was grown without a single chemical no brand name nothing. But you can stay in your ignorance.. that all fine too.. do you want me to post more pics. I got 15yrs of pics to share.

 

[MasterCookie]

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[MasterCookie]

@Shaded_One And you still having addressed if worm casting isn't top tier of the organic grower requirements. If it wasn't why brands and growers swear by it.. but maybe to you organic meaning some ammendments to comes in a plastic bag per mixed for your convenience.. new flash bro.. this is organic farming... I'm stay waiting on your pics.. post it up let's see your organic nutrients and is so different to everyone else one.. come let see you dried ammendments thar deprived of living matter that you consider as organic farming... sigh...

 

[Shaded_One]

@Shaded_One And you still having addressed if worm casting isn't top tier of the organic grower requirements. If it wasn't why brands and growers swear by it.. but maybe to you organic meaning some ammendments to comes in a plastic bag per mixed for your convenience.. new flash bro.. this is organic farming... I'm stay waiting on your pics.. post it up let's see your organic nutrients and is so different to everyone else one.. come let see you dried ammendments thar deprived of living matter that you consider as organic farming... sigh...

What the !@#$ are you smoking man? Why are you talking about Worm Castings now? You want pics click on my name. Click on any thread in my signature. You think that organic growing means you need to be using fish shit? You have a LOT to learn bud.

You are correct that organic and synthetic nutrients are the exact same ions. What you seem to be ignoring is HOW THEY ARE BROKEN DOWN/CONSUMED BY THE PLANT AND HOW LONG THIS TAKES SYNTHETIC VS ORGANIC.

/fu

 

[MasterCookie]

What the !@#$ are you smoking man? Why are you talking about Worm Castings now? You want pics click on my name. Click on any thread in my signature. You think that organic growing means you need to be using fish shit? You have a LOT to learn bud.

Bro don't feel upset.. continue to buy your dry amendments and do you... I don't fight with shit.. I compost it.. peace... big talker and can't back up nothing.. can't cure ignorance..

 

[Shaded_One]

Bro don't feel upset.. continue to buy your dry amendments and do you... I don't fight with shit.. I compost it.. peace... big talker and can't back up nothing.. can't cure ignorance..

Speaking of big talkers that can't back up anything. Nice leafy twigs bruv.

 

[MasterCookie]

Speaking of big talkers that can't back up anything. Nice leafy twigs bruv.

It's 2 weeks into flowering bro..

 

[Shaded_One]

It's 2 weeks into flowering bro..

Really? Looks like it's doing nothing but growing leaf matter. Anyways. Growing for 15 years and you want to come here and measure your dick for some reason because you got upset that someone told you that Synthetic and Organic nutrients don't have the same feed rates.

Go away.

 

[MasterCookie]

Really? Looks like it's doing nothing but growing leaf matter. Anyways. Growing for 15 years and you want to come here and measure your dick for some reason because you got upset that someone told you that Synthetic and Organic nutrients don't have the same feed rates.

Go away.

You are literally upset about the same thing... atleast I am open to criticism by post pics.. no to show off but as a visual concept of my grows.. each fabric pots is have on thos pics is 10 gals pots.. some are 15 gals. I understand the fundamentals concept of organic amendments. They are literally open to the weather. Rain everyday. You really think I will be profitable to do that via synthetic.. no it's isn't I used to think exactly like you till I stumbled across this forum. And saw @Aqua Man how to water coco thread. Once you are using coco even if you are growing organically the media dictate your plant growth rate. And coco usually lock away Magnesium calcium and iron all the time.

If you get off your high horse you will understand that I was speaking interm of magnesium supplements. That was this tread was asking. There are specific mineral that any coco grower plants will benefit from if they feed small frequent amounts of these specific mineral.
It's you that decide to go off on a tangent assuming I said all nutrient... sigh..

 

[MasterCookie]

You are truly an ignorant sad person that really needs so help.. you instead of helping the person with they issue you decide to come down on someone ( me) who is literally on there first run of growing cannabis.. just look through my tread and you will see for yourself.

Less of the bullying will be greatly appreciated.. from a so called veteran as yourself. Very shamefully..

 

[Shaded_One]

You are literally upset about the same thing... atleast I am open to criticism by post pics.. no to show off but as a visual concept of my grows.. each fabric pots is have on thos pics is 10 gals pots.. some are 15 gals. I understand the fundamentals concept of organic amendments. They are literally open to the weather. Rain everyday. You really think I will be profitable to do that via synthetic.. no it's isn't I used to think exactly like you till I stumbled across this forum. And saw @Aqua Man how to water coco thread. Once you are using coco even if you are growing organically the media dictate your plant growth rate. And coco usually lock away Magnesium calcium and iron all the time.

If you get off your high horse you will understand that I was speaking interm of magnesium supplements. That was this tread was asking. There are specific mineral that any coco grower plants will benefit from if they feed small frequent amounts of these specific mineral.
It's you that decide to go off on a tangent assuming I said all nutrient... sigh..

You're all over the place man. I haven't posted any pics because I've already given you 3-4 methods of easily accessing the hundreds of pictures I've already posted and the 15+ pages of grow journals I have here on this forum.

Your advice was that it was no big deal that this person was giving his plant epsom salts every day in an organic grow. I simply said you were incorrect, and it was YOU who went on a tangent. Please be a little more introspective.

 

[MasterCookie]

You're all over the place man. I haven't posted any pics because I've already given you 3-4 methods of easily accessing the hundreds of pictures I've already posted and the 15+ pages of grow journals I have here on this forum.

Your advice was that it was no big deal that this person was giving his plant epsom salts every day in an organic grow. I simply said you were incorrect, and it was YOU who went on a tangent. Please be a little more introspective.

I LITERALLY FEED ALL MY PLANTS 200G OF EPSON SALT EVER DAY. Are you trying to say that I'm doing it wrong.. everyone's organic inputs will have different needs.. gosh.. it's not synthetic... organic gets their nutrients from once living matter... ask yourself if the once living matter was deficient in magnesium to start with. You really think your soil will have it... exactly what I'm trying to say you are soo accustomed to buy a specific organic ammendments that you feel other people grow will be governed by your.. not true... true organic you must grow and let the plant tell you what they need... if the deficiencies is popping up very frequently use the epsom salt more often... wow...

 

[Shaded_One]

I LITERALLY FEED ALL MY PLANTS 200G OF EPSON SALT EVER DAY. Are you trying to say that I'm doing it wrong.. everyone's organic inputs will have different needs.. gosh.. it's not synthetic... organic gets their nutrients from once living matter... ask yourself if the once living matter was deficient in magnesium to start with. You really think your soil will have it... exactly what I'm trying to say you are soo accustomed to buy a specific organic ammendments that you feel other people grow will be governed by your.. not true... true organic you must grow and let the plant tell you what they need... if the deficiencies is popping up very frequently use the epsom salt more often... wow...

Cool stuff. Perhaps people growing in aquaponics will gladly take your advice, no matter how poor it may be.

PS it looks like your plant is reverting back to vegetative state

 

[Brizzy420]

K. Keep giving your plant 2 tablespoons of Epsom salts every day. Can't wait to see your progress pics.

Following along for brogrow

i will brother. hope you find some sort of happiness in your life so you dont have to check up on things your hating on? doesnt make sense to me why your being so negative towards everyone when everyones just here to share a hobby and be friends. instead you want to try and tare people down and call then stupid? okay dude. you sound like a very pleasant person to be around! i will gladly show you the progression of my grow. thats the entire reason im here! WEIRD!?!? i know im not doing it all perfect. neither are you there buddy ;) .. UPDATE ON MY PROGRESSION since you are so very much invested in this.. all my plants are recovering, it ended up being a bad ph meter and was watering with a way to high of PH.


EDIT: shouldnt say all plants as it was just one of the white widows and the durban auto showing rust spots, both took off on a stretch at the same time as i didnt do as much stress training to these like i did the others. maybe why they ate up the nutes quicker. as far as me feeding epsom salt daily: it was only daily for about 3 days as i didnt want to add to much at once so i decided to add a little at a time for a longer feeding duration because i wasnt sure if using epsom salt would effect the micro orgs int he organic soil. and the research i had done prior to all this was that people DO ADD epsom salt in small amounts DAILY because if you use RO water or filtered you lose all the natural minerals like magnesium sulfate... still not seeing anywhere that says magnesium sulfate isnt organic (epsom salt doesnt mean its salt you know that right? its sulfate). and as your say it very well might. something im def taking into consideration. i bought organic calcium (gypsum) in place of the cal mag and iron too. like i said this is my first grow and iv made a ton of mistakes already but one of them def wasnt changing my light cycle to bloom then putting them back into veg. your saying you think they went into veg and reverted back to bloom? can you explain this a little more? can stressing plants out to much (fem seeds) make them bloom for a second or show sex and then revert back? i see no signs of this and not sure how you came to the conclusion but my ears are open.

 

[TSD]

You are literally upset about the same thing... atleast I am open to criticism by post pics.. no to show off but as a visual concept of my grows.. each fabric pots is have on thos pics is 10 gals pots.. some are 15 gals. I understand the fundamentals concept of organic amendments. They are literally open to the weather. Rain everyday. You really think I will be profitable to do that via synthetic.. no it's isn't I used to think exactly like you till I stumbled across this forum. And saw @Aqua Man how to water coco thread. Once you are using coco even if you are growing organically the media dictate your plant growth rate. And coco usually lock away Magnesium calcium and iron all the time.

If you get off your high horse you will understand that I was speaking interm of magnesium supplements. That was this tread was asking. There are specific mineral that any coco grower plants will benefit from if they feed small frequent amounts of these specific mineral.
It's you that decide to go off on a tangent assuming I said all nutrient... sigh..

You shouldn't really be running organics in coco... because, how? You can't keep a microbiome healthy watering constantly... an expert such as yourself should know this. Sure you can try it, people do, but why? Why are you fighting with @Shaded_One ? The man knows his shit, which you'd see if you looked at his profile... You're on your first weed grow and suddenly you're an expert? Just because you grow other shit with success doesn't mean you magically understand everything else about weed. Your tomatoes don't impress anyone or prove your ability to grow high quality cannabis. Non organic nutrients are immediately available, many organics are not they need to be broken down, which can take days or weeks depending on your methods... those are just facts. Maybe you should A: humble yourself and admit you don't know it all, or B: Stop being so disrespectful for no damn reason or C: Find a new forum that tolerates that kind of disrespectful shit.