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Led second week leaves are wrinkled from the middle up

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Led second week leaves are wrinkled from the middle up

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Plants are getting ready to hit week 3 and are wrinkled.
Athena pro nutrients at 3.3ppm with 5.9 - 6.0 ph. Fed 4 x per day. Room temp 81 degrees, leaf temp 79 degrees, and room humidity 68%. Par is 700 (80%). Can’t figure out what is going on. Maybe too much light? @Aqua Man I need your help!!!
Led second week leaves are wrinkled from the middle up
 
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The leaves beneath the canopy are fine?
 
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3.3 EC is high and will lock out nutrients over time. On the bottom leaves they look like they are starting to lock out potassium.
 
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Regardless of ec at 3.3 at that pH K is not limiting. It could forced higher, 6.5.

Zill.
 
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Oh shit trixie and zill are on the same post @growsince79 @Ganjadad @freezeland2 I guess they aren't the same person after all...
 
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So...is this veg or flower?

What light did you have before led? What was the par before it?

Is it coco?

Ph isn't off for coco.. you can try a slightly higher I prefer mine 5.8-6.2 in coco.

Humidity is a little high but idk if VPD would make the leaves look like that.
 
#10
Looks like too much light. 800 PPFD seems extreme. I usually bump it up to 800 PPFD around week 4-6 of flower.

I would also check your RH. That seems really high for no CO2.
 
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2Bad said:
Oh shit trixie and zill are on the same post @growsince79 @Ganjadad @freezeland2 I guess they aren't the same person after all...
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Doesn’t mean they ain’t, lol
 
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Aperkins1972 said:
Plants are getting ready to hit week 3 and are wrinkled.
Athena pro nutrients at 3.3ppm with 5.9 - 6.0 ph. Fed 4 x per day. Room temp 81 degrees, leaf temp 79 degrees, and room humidity 68%. Par is 700 (80%). Can’t figure out what is going on. Maybe too much light? @Aqua Man I need your help!!!View attachment 1317963
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I ran Athena Pro line for about 2 years and I could never get the EC into that range without nutrient burn. I could only get to 2.4 or 2.5 before the plants would start burning up with CO2 but I ran the humidity lower. There are people that can do it for some reason. I am aware that higher Humidity is going to play a part in the plant being able to deal with the salt stress that an EC of 3.3 will create. That is part of what makes the EC of 3.3 possible. It is was my grow I would do as previously suggested and lower the lights first thing. I would drop them down to about 40 to 50 percent ASAP. Secondly, if you are going to do as Athena recommended. Please be sure to confirm with the rep the setting for a room with our without CO2 that is going to be a large part of the 3.3 equation working out. Athena products sone great looking buds and the volume it good. Only thing I can say about Athena is 3 things.
#1. Their veg and bloom component are not intended for small home grows. That shit is very hydro scope. Keep it in a dark very dry place.
#2. They run the calcium high but it messes with the P and you can get calcium def the first 2 to 3 weeks of flower when demand is at a peak.
#3. I noticed ever single plant came out smelling darn near the same with the stuff. Botanicare Pro Blend will do this as well.
If you see some rust spots on the fan leaves start showing up about week 2 of flower on the top 20 percent of the plant that is the Calcium def I was referring to. If is just an hand full of leaves just run with it and make sure the def does not get worse. Otherwise get some grow more no N cal mag and add that to the Athena plant. They can take up to 10 mils per gallon no problem.
 
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2Bad said:
So...is this veg or flower?

What light did you have before led? What was the par before it?

Is it coco?

Ph isn't off for coco.. you can try a slightly higher I prefer mine 5.8-6.2 in coco.

Humidity is a little high but idk if VPD would make the leaves look like that.
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Flower
I have never grown this strain before.
Yes, coco & perlite.
 
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Anthem said:
I ran Athena Pro line for about 2 years and I could never get the EC into that range without nutrient burn. I could only get to 2.4 or 2.5 before the plants would start burning up with CO2 but I ran the humidity lower. There are people that can do it for some reason. I am aware that higher Humidity is going to play a part in the plant being able to deal with the salt stress that an EC of 3.3 will create. That is part of what makes the EC of 3.3 possible. It is was my grow I would do as previously suggested and lower the lights first thing. I would drop them down to about 40 to 50 percent ASAP. Secondly, if you are going to do as Athena recommended. Please be sure to confirm with the rep the setting for a room with our without CO2 that is going to be a large part of the 3.3 equation working out. Athena products sone great looking buds and the volume it good. Only thing I can say about Athena is 3 things.
#1. Their veg and bloom component are not intended for small home grows. That shit is very hydro scope. Keep it in a dark very dry place.
#2. They run the calcium high but it messes with the P and you can get calcium def the first 2 to 3 weeks of flower when demand is at a peak.
#3. I noticed ever single plant came out smelling darn near the same with the stuff. Botanicare Pro Blend will do this as well.
If you see some rust spots on the fan leaves start showing up about week 2 of flower on the top 20 percent of the plant that is the Calcium def I was referring to. If is just an hand full of leaves just run with it and make sure the def does not get worse. Otherwise get some grow more no N cal mag and add that to the Athena plant. They can take up to 10 mils per gallon no problem.
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Thank you!
 
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