What's Everyone's Take On Miracle Gro?

[McCannabis]

Just curious as to why so many people hate on MG, and why their opinion is to stay away from it? Tips, pointers, advice, knowledge?

 

[Darkstreets]

my guess is it has alot to do with their time release nutes making it very hard to gauge adding nutes, and the fact that those time release nutes are also fairly potent and have burnt plants all on their own. some have good results with it but it doesnt seem to be the general consensus

 

[Dabominable]

Well, way back when, i knew it as the poor man's gold. That being said, most of the miracle products (soils/potting mixxes) are and the hotter side. I have experimented with MG potting soil, side by side with FFOF, and then again side by side with sunshine#4 plus a few amendments. All 3 got teas. The yields were very close to eachother, in 7gals iirc, so within like 4-10g of eachother. Ran purple kush on all 3. By far, the MG was harshest, all got the same tlc, nutes, so on and so forth.

If you can't afford anything else, it WILL work. I also know of people (one close friend) who used the water soluble rose bloom/tomato food for nutes in his veg-flower. Grow good pot, but harsh to all hell. People say to stay away from it, probably because its a basic, hot, commericial soil. I think the potting soil might also have time release in it, it was awhile ago. Chem time release ferts, i believe, are near impossible to truly flush from a plant until they have been entirely used up. So, if on a budget and you can literally afford nothing else, then go for it. Once you can afford a soil that works for what you're doing, or if you generally do give a shit about your health or harshness of your medicine, then making/mixing your own soils or soilless mixtures if the way to go.

Been there, been broke, been homeless. Still needed my medicine. My 2 cents, hope it helped some.

 

[We Solidarity]

Miracle grow is a Monsanto product, I think that's why there is a lot of unease about it.

Its also just generally gross low grade fertilizer. Plants on miracle grow are like people on McDonalds.

 

[baba G]

Two solid answers above there :happy:

 

[Blaze]

It will make your bud harsh and taste like shit. Would not recommend using it.

 

[Og Gong]

Miracle No!

 

[Desertboy]

I use a time release organic fertiliser which is great but not available on your side of the pond! Remember cucumbers, tomatoes & chillies will all run an EC of 3.2 fine which for cannabis is the death zone so the level of fertilisation the slow release tabs give is probably far too high for cannabis.

As for miracle grow giving a nasty taste it's about dosage check the miracle grow with your ec meter and don't go above 1.8 and I really doubt you could tell the difference between miracle grow bud and any hydro nute on the market EXCEPT yield might suffer a bit. I would never use miracle grow personally.

A chemical fertiliser is basically a hydroponic fertiliser by another name with less ph stabilisers in it.

 

[hawkman]

will work - but- you can't flush it !!!!!

 

[Desertboy]

will work - but- you can't flush it !!!!!

Why? I'm not up on miracle grow chemistry so links to the salts in miracle grow and why they can't be flushed would be interesting.

 

[McCannabis]

I use MG fert but I use 1/4 of the dose it suggests. I just use it to give my water a little boost. I don't really feed anything but that. Just let mine take their time and do what nature made it do. I just give it a strict light schedule and water. Not much else

 

[Misanthrope]

I've been wondering the same about MG....its not geared towards cannabis, I get that, but would the MG 24-8-16 not be pretty close? I'm looking to grow some cannatrees outside this summer and will need large quantities of nutes. So far I'm having trouble finding GH Maxigro and was looking around for a cheap water soluble nutrients for the veg phase.

 

[Moshmen]

I've been wondering the same about MG....its not geared towards cannabis, I get that, but would the MG 24-8-16 not be pretty close? I'm looking to grow some cannatrees outside this summer and will need large quantities of nutes. So far I'm having trouble finding GH Maxigro and was looking around for a cheap water soluble nutrients for the veg phase.

Jacks - mega crop- masterblend they all work and are cheap in my opinion

 

[TomH]

It will make your bud harsh and taste like shit. Would not recommend using it.

My first grow was started with MG. It grew great, but taste was not what I like.

I always wondered why, this might explain a lot.

I never used it again, and liked my grows after that!

 

[RootsRuler]

I've been wondering the same about MG....its not geared towards cannabis, I get that, but would the MG 24-8-16 not be pretty close? I'm looking to grow some cannatrees outside this summer and will need large quantities of nutes. So far I'm having trouble finding GH Maxigro and was looking around for a cheap water soluble nutrients for the veg phase.

I'm going to do a tree run this season but I'm going to do it in living soil so that I don't have to constantly be mixing fertilizer and can clean water with a few tea drops to recharge the root zone. Maybe a 20 gallon bag with a couple bags of Roots Organic Lush formula and some of RO's teas.

I don't usually like using powdered ferts but I may try out some Gaia Green or other powdered nutrient if I don't go the Tea route.

 

[CookiesLikeWhoa]

I use a time release organic fertiliser which is great but not available on your side of the pond! Remember cucumbers, tomatoes & chillies will all run an EC of 3.2 fine which for cannabis is the death zone so the level of fertilisation the slow release tabs give is probably far too high for cannabis.

Hmm I'm running 3.2EC in my current grow and the plants haven't died yet.

 

[Novaracer69]

IMHO it's no different than any other synthetic fertilizer. Aka hot garbage back in 2003 I started growing with miracle grow. It work got me thru harvest. But when I went to organics that flavor came in super hard. Miracle grow weed was always hard on my throat
If you do have money then Korean natural farming is the ticket. Hell it the ticket if you have money

 

[Misanthrope]

Jacks - mega crop- masterblend they all work and are cheap in my opinion

I often hear Jacks mentioned but none of the npk ratios look ideal so I'm not sure which formulation works best with cannabis. Is it the Acid Special? (17-6-6)
As for MG and taste, wouldn't all the MG chemicals be flushed out of the plant by harvest if it's only used during veg? In theory, shouldn't it be gone after the standard 2 week pre-harvest flush?
I'm not looking to carry the MG cross, I'm just looking for cheap synthetic options for the summer

 

[BigBlonde]

I used MG for my first indoor attempt. That was before I joined this forum. The plants grew well, but I never had a chance to taste the crop because of spider mites. I didn't notice MG being too hot. The plants looked great. I still have two big bags of MG out in the shed.

 

[Stonerbudz]

Just curious as to why so many people hate on MG, and why their opinion is to stay away from it? Tips, pointers, advice, knowledge?

So i hsve done it to see whats up and tk be honest i rather fine ne some general hydrophonic witch is cheap and available everywhere as in flower there is just so much salts that even flushing from day 1 of flower wouldnt take them all out but you can still get smoke nice smoke just not going be as clean thats all