Growing on a tight budget.

[Crabgrassfarms]

Here's 2 of the 7 grow close to harvest, these 2 grew almost 2 meters and I found it funny cause they didnt have that much bud in them but the sativa genetic wanted to show anyway
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How far was your light from that plant, that it stretched that way? I have seen such when the lights were too high and clones stretched that way.

 

[Eledin]

How far was your light from that plant, that it stretched that way? I have seen such when the lights were too high and clones stretched that way.

It wasnt a problem of how far but how many Watts, I started them with a 24W full spectrum bar that they claimed was enough for germination and it clearly wasnt, beause I got leggy seedlings, thats why those 2, which are also sativas, grew almost 2 meters with so much space in between the buds, nice catch! ;)

 

[Crabgrassfarms]

It wasnt a problem of how far but how many Watts, I started them with a 24W full spectrum bar that they claimed was enough for germination and it clearly wasnt, beause I got leggy seedlings, thats why those 2, which are also sativas, grew almost 2 meters with so much space in between the buds, nice catch! ;)

I just watched a video of a light test with identical clones with the only variable was distance from the light. I guess it still stretched to get all it could.

 

[Eledin]

I just watched a video of a light test with identical clones with the only variable was distance from the light. I guess it still stretched to get all it could.

Yeah its either lack of light because of wattage or because of distance, in my case it was just not enough wattage, the same happened when I tried to grow one by my window hoping it would get enough sun, it fell flat at week 2 I didnt even bother going further. With the lights I have now I just put them like half a meter away and when they start getting closer I might pull it higher depending on how tall its getting or how long its been into flower. Just a first time with LED mistake, never believe what they advertise unless its a known brand, as you can see the ones I choped today were not leggy seedlings at all. Nor were the ones I was previously growing with HPS lights, just a first time with LED noob mistake and being too anxious not wanting to wait for the lights to arrive before starting the grow.

 

[Edinburg]

I bought a couple clamp spotlights from home Depot for 10 bucks and the bulbs I think we're about 30 bucks this gives good side light on a budget lol

 

[helpmegrowbuds]

I grew this toped auto matanuska with 200W. 2 75W LED bulbs with reflector and 50W on the sides with LED bars for maxium light exposure. Its missing one cola and the tip of another one because my stash was empty, oops! Im aware is not the fanciest plant youve ever seen but I wanted to post it because many people think that you need a 600W panel to start growing.


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Hey buddy can I see more photos on ur setup plzz

 

[Eledin]

Hey buddy can I see more photos on ur setup plzz

I currently have it dismantled because Im drying those 2 plants but as soon as I get it going again Ill send you a pic of the full set up! I need to clean everything aswell before putting it all together again.

 

[mrfreeze682]

I bought a couple clamp spotlights from home Depot for 10 bucks and the bulbs I think we're about 30 bucks this gives good side light on a budget lol

did you see an improvement compared to when you dont use them? You think they could give an edge in bud formation since more light would be penetrating?

 

[Eledin]

Pistils accumulating, seems like they are so far happy with the 2 26W bars, reminder that this is a very small strain, blueberry auto, if I were to put a bigger plant here it would probably need more light, but Im sure there's a few other autos than can do good in there. Next time Ill put 3 ak-47 autos for some variety. Im also waiting for my next paycheck to put an extraction fan, it gets hot in there and it will get hotter soon. Ill put a small filter outside the tent this time, since inside there is not enough space for it.

 

[Eledin]

Keeping the idea of making it as cheap as possible, here's the fan, cheap, 14W 100mm. Airflow 107m3/h, Its the one Im using as intraction fan in the big grow but it will be the extraction fan here. Then a small cheap carbon filter. It will put the Wattage of the set up at 64W. 100mm filter aswell, airflow potential 350m3/h (Your extraction fan needs a filter with more airflow than your fan so the fan motor doesnt overwork trying to push air, the intraction fan if you have any has to have at least 20% less airflow than your extraction fan, and certainly never more, your tent will inflate and can even create small holes where light can go through and of course reduce the life time of your fans).

 

[Crabgrassfarms]

I installed a SF2000Pro, can't leave the pro part out but I don't know the difference, in my 4x8. I have 8 4 week old plants in there with a couple feet unoccupied, anyway after watch the video I mentioned earlier and this thread I determined I didn't have enough lights for budding. I now have 2 SF1000 @100w each, a VIVOSUN 2000e @200w, and the new SF2000 @200w and am still concerned. I have 2 120w leds in a 4x4 with 3 plants in it waiting to go outside, but I intended to grow 3 autos in there. Maybe I'll put a 650w in there next year, but I like the versatility of multiple lights and height options.
What do you think, have I got enough light in the 4x8?

 

[Crabgrassfarms]

Keeping the idea of making it as cheap as possible, here's the fan, cheap, 14W 100mm. Airflow 107m3/h, Its the one Im using as intraction fan in the big grow but it will be the extraction fan here. Then a small cheap carbon filter. It will put the Wattage of the set up at 64W. 100mm filter aswell, airflow potential 350m3/h (Your extraction fan needs a filter with more airflow than your fan so the fan motor doesnt overwork trying to push air, the intraction fan if you have any has to have at least 20% less airflow than your extraction fan, and certainly never more, your tent will inflate and can even create small holes where light can go through and of course reduce the life time of your fans).
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Almost any smallish blower should work but noise may be a factor. You are in Spain?

 

[Eledin]

I installed a SF2000Pro, can't leave the pro part out but I don't know the difference, in my 4x8. I have 8 4 week old plants in there with a couple feet unoccupied, anyway after watch the video I mentioned earlier and this thread I determined I didn't have enough lights for budding. I now have 2 SF1000 @100w each, a VIVOSUN 2000e @200w, and the new SF2000 @200w and am still concerned. I have 2 120w leds in a 4x4 with 3 plants in it waiting to go outside, but I intended to grow 3 autos in there. Maybe I'll put a 650w in there next year, but I like the versatility of multiple lights and height options.
What do you think, have I got enough light in the 4x8?

I think thats more than enough, the Wattage is, the coverage seems to be aswell. You were mostly lacking that, coverage, because the SF2000pro is intended to be used as a 3x3feet light. Maybe someone else can chime in and give their opinion since Im new to LEDs, always used HPS until last year.

 

[Eledin]

Almost any smallish blower should work but noise may be a factor. You are in Spain?

Noise will be a small factor. The fan I chose doesnt make any noticeable noise the first months but when I put the aluminium tube to connect it to the filter the air going through the tube will make noise yes. Yes, I am in Spain, why?

 

[Newbgrower1]

I use two 100w lights that I got for around $100 for both. They work great for me. I can keep the dli at its max with them. I grew 1 plant over the winter with them and it came out great. I got 1/2 lb off of her. Now I have two autos under the same lights. They seem to be working great. I give them two weeks of rest while I’m drying then they go back to an 18/6 schedule for the next run lol they’ve been running like that for about a yr with no issues. First pic is the winter run bubba cheesecake and the second is my current grow.

 

[Eledin]

I use two 100w lights that I got for around $100 for both. They work great for me. I can keep the dli at its max with them. I grew 1 plant over the winter with them and it came out great. I got 1/2 lb off of her. Now I have two autos under the same lights. They seem to be working great. I give them two weeks of rest while I’m drying then they go back to an 18/6 schedule for the next run lol they’ve been running like that for about a yr with no issues. First pic is the winter run bubba cheesecake and the second is my current grow.

They look awesome! I see some leaves with probably deficiency in the first pic? But it seems like it was in the late stage and didnt affect much the buds, they look great! 100W 100 dollars each??! Damn thats cheap! Nice one! Do you know the color temperature of those lights? Im thinking maybe 4000k? or is it 6000-6500K? For a spectrum with not much red light seems like they went well.

 

[Crabgrassfarms]

Noise will be a small factor. The fan I chose doesnt make any noticeable noise the first months but when I put the aluminium tube to connect it to the filter the air going through the tube will make noise yes. Yes, I am in Spain, why?

The dialect seemed more proper Spanish as opposed to the dialects up and down the western hemisphere. I became aware of this when I had a conversation with a Spaniard in an airport in Managua, Nicaragua. He was looking for someone who spoke Castilian actually but he didn't seem at home with the local speak. I didn't look indigenous and he took a shot with me. I am way off topic but it was through that trip that I became aware of Catalonia as well. It really pays off to travel away from home.

 

[Crabgrassfarms]

I use two 100w lights that I got for around $100 for both. They work great for me. I can keep the dli at its max with them. I grew 1 plant over the winter with them and it came out great. I got 1/2 lb off of her. Now I have two autos under the same lights. They seem to be working great. I give them two weeks of rest while I’m drying then they go back to an 18/6 schedule for the next run lol they’ve been running like that for about a yr with no issues. First pic is the winter run bubba cheesecake and the second is my current grow. View attachment 1350025View attachment 1350026View attachment 1350027

The proof is in the pudding, isn't it! The bubba cheesecake looked great.

 

[Eledin]

The dialect seemed more proper Spanish as opposed to the dialects up and down the western hemisphere. I became of this when I had a conversation with a Spaniard in an airport in Managua, Nicaragua. He was looking for someone who spoke Castilian actually but he didn't seem at home with the local speak. I didn't look indigenous and he took a shot with me. I am way off topic but it was through that trip that I became aware of Catalonia as well. It really pays off to travel away from home.

Thats an interesting story :P we are able to understand each other tho I dont know why he was specifically searching for someone who spoke spaniard spanish, maybe he was a catalan native speaker and he wasnt really good at spanish to begin with. Im from northern catalonia, my parents speak spanish and I learned catalan in school, but many people in northern catalonia speak catalan 99% of the time and some forget many spanish words.

 

[Crabgrassfarms]

Thats an interesting story :P we are able to understand each other tho I dont know why he was specifically searching for someone who spoke spaniard spanish, maybe he was a catalan native speaker and he wasnt really good at spanish to begin with. Im from northern catalonia, my parents speak spanish and I learned catalan in school, but many people in northern catalonia speak catalan 99% of the time and some forget many spanish words.

The Catalonia was a woman. She had no language problems but she wanted to inform me of the uniqueness of the area, it sure shows in politics, doesn't it? How is the word "parquearse" used in Spain? It is my understanding the word is a derivation the English word "park" relative to cars started on the Mexican USA border. If that is true it must have turned the Castilian keepers of the tongue on their heads.