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Saw today I have leaves turning Golden color not yellow buy gold.

It's two Photos growing in soil mix peatmoss perlite and homemade compost. Feeding them Foxfarm trio nutz. I feed them yesterday and today I see this. It looks simular to a lot of problems but not exactly like any. I can use all the advice I can get. If you have any idea your thoughts will be greatly appreciated PopPop
 

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They look like they are pretty green and maybe nitrogen or even a zinc toxicities but yet agin what light do you hahe and hoe fsr away is it and what % u got this light at and what did you just feed the plant dofferent compare your normal doing to the plants feeding and if you top dress when was last feeding
 
Lights are Unit Farm UFL 3000 5x5 tent with 2 lights hanging 16 inches over canopy.

I feed with Foxfarm liquid nutrients trio
I used Cal Mac and PH Down when I last feed them 18 hours before this started. I may have used to much pH down my gage was not working and I didn't realize it till I was done. Today the little bit of water that was left read pH 3.5 on new gage.
 
Lights are Unit Farm UFL 3000 5x5 tent with 2 lights hanging 16 inches over canopy.

I feed with Foxfarm liquid nutrients trio
I used Cal Mac and PH Down when I last feed them 18 hours before this started. I may have used to much pH down my gage was not working and I didn't realize it till I was done. Today the little bit of water that was left read pH 3.5 on new gage.
Sup @PopPop67?

So to start things off, you are growing in a peatmoss/perlite mix, with some home made compost.
The growth you've had so far looks great, and the problem started shortly after feeding.

You checked the left over nutrients that you didn't use and it came to 3.5 pH? Or did you check the run off and it came to 3.5 pH? Because that would be a lot worse, please clarify.

Luckily it's not the end of the world, and since you are growing in the peatmoss/perlite mix, which has dolomite lime added to in from the manufacturer, because the spagnum peat moss is mixed with composted pine bark and the mixture is naturally acidic.

So the peatmoss/perlite mix has dolomite lime in it, which dissolves slowly. This will counter the low pH of the spagnum peat moss, and the pine bark, but requires that the soil medium be moist enough to dissolve the dolomite lime, and the moisture has to be in contact with the dolomite lime for a prolonged period. So keep the soil moist for the next few days until you see improvement from the incerased dolomite lime activation.

Give this article a quick read, it's from the Pro-Mix official website, and can give you some more detailed insight.

In order to correct the issue you will need to flush your soil, to make sure the pH does not remain too low. The article suggests a 2:1 ratio of water to soilless medium, however you can flush the plant out with quite a bit more than this. If you can do this in the tub or a sink that would be ideal. Just don't wash away your medium running the water with too much flow, lol...

Flush your pots out, and let the run off go down the drain. After an hour or two, come back and give it just enough water to get some additional run off, then check the pH of the run off. If your run off is in the acceptable range, then you can place your plant under the light, but dial the light back a bit just to observe and to avoid any furthering of the issue.

You're going to want to avoid any feeds for a day or two, and if the issue isn't correcting, then there is a more serious issue at hand.

Once the coast is clear and the damage has stopped, plus you observe that the new growth is starting to continue as it was before the issue, then you can go back and return to a light feed to get back into the usual growth.

Ps. I wouldn't remove any damaged leaves until you know the issue has resolved, and the new growth is continuing as usual. Older growth is taking the damage to protect the more vital parts of the plant, such as the main cola, and the shoots. Those in most cases will be damaged last, before the plant becomes too damaged and dies.

One other thing, is make sure the compost in your soil is not breaking down and causing the soil to literally become hot, as this will destroy the roots and your plants will eventually die. If the compost is not fully broken down, then some reactions can occure when you add nutrients and pH Down, etc... So just as a precaution, stick your finger into the soil to make sure there is not a chemical reaction causing heat in the root zone, as this can happen with organic nutrients as they break down.

Lastly, I'd get rid of that pH Down, because it's not needed, and has clearly caused some issues here. So best to avoid it and not repeat the same mistake. Tjere are reactions that happen in the soil as soon as the nutrients hits it, and the pH starts to change, so measuring the pH before feeding is not always necessary, the soil compostion from the manufacturer is made to counter the low pH, so we shouldn't be hindering that effect.

Of course if you had very high pH water to begin with, then you may need to use a pH Down product, however I am assuming you have good clean water that's treated by your city.

I hope some of what I've said here helped you move past this issue and get back on track with the nice growth you've had so far!
 
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The 3.5 pH was before watering run off is 5.4. I did not notice until today that none of the lower leaves are effected they look fine. I flushed out the pots in the bathroom tub today and raised up the lights.

I am sure my compost is not a problem. I have 6 compost piles on the back edge of my property and a seventh pile that was started in January 2023 The compost I'm using this year was started in 2016. Every year I make more than I can use.

Thank all of you for your advice it is very helpful PopPop
 
The 3.5 pH was before watering run off is 5.4. I did not notice until today that none of the lower leaves are effected they look fine. I flushed out the pots in the bathroom tub today and raised up the lights.

I am sure my compost is not a problem. I have 6 compost piles on the back edge of my property and a seventh pile that was started in January 2023 The compost I'm using this year was started in 2016. Every year I make more than I can use.

Thank all of you for your advice it is very helpful PopPop
Yeah, its seems like a temperary issue. Your run off pH is not terrible to where you plants are going to kick the bucket. So this issue seems reversable.

I've had worse damage recover.

To have the pH increase so much from a 3.5pH feed a very good sign. So let's see what the run off pH comes to after flushing the plants, because it's back to business one it comes back to the 6.0-7.0 range.

Nothing has to be perfect, because all plants are different, and plants can adapt as well.

Keep it up.
 
There's isn't bugs under those leaves are there? Macroscopic ones.
No I checked with a jewlers loop. Saw no bugs flushed pots today for 15 minutes and raised the lights they are not getting worse now. Have my fingers crossed they bounce back.
 
No I checked with a jewlers loop. Saw no bugs flushed pots today for 15 minutes and raised the lights they are not getting worse now. Have my fingers crossed they bounce back.
Let's GIT IT!!!
 
Yeah, its seems like a temperary issue. Your run off pH is not terrible to where you plants are going to kick the bucket. So this issue seems reversable.

I've had worse damage recover.

To have the pH increase so much from a 3.5pH feed a very good sign. So let's see what the run off pH comes to after flushing the plants, because it's back to business one it comes back to the 6.0-7.0 range.

Nothing has to be perfect, because all plants are different, and plants can adapt as well.

Keep it up.
Runoff tonight was pH 6.2 same as the water was before sending it through the pots. Went in 6.2 came out 6.2 my normal run off pH when I am feeding was 6.8. My living soil normally keeps my pH stable between 6.0 to 6.4
 
Runoff tonight was pH 6.2 same as the water was before sending it through the pots. Went in 6.2 came out 6.2 my normal run off pH when I am feeding was 6.8. My living soil normally keeps my pH stable between 6.0 to 6.4
That's great, I believe we are back in action!

Keep doing what you were doing before the issue. Can't wait to see the finished product, and hopefully those nice buds weren't damaged.

DId you notice any brown pistils afterwards?
 
No they are both still in veg. I was going to flip this week but I will wait till they are looking right and growing again before I flip them.

Thanks for all the advice. Just knowing someone else is looking at my problem made it easier for to deal with it. When anyone has your back you know you are not alone. I must say as good as these two are growing I freaked out when I first saw the golden leaves. I will update as they get better and will be posting some pics of some fat frosty nugs soon. PopPop
 
No they are both still in veg. I was going to flip this week but I will wait till they are looking right and growing again before I flip them.

Thanks for all the advice. Just knowing someone else is looking at my problem made it easier for to deal with it. When anyone has your back you know you are not alone. I must say as good as these two are growing I freaked out when I first saw the golden leaves. I will update as they get better and will be posting some pics of some fat frosty nugs soon. PopPop
Lol, I smoked too much or something here.
 
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