So what are peoples thoughts on autos?

[Captspaulding]

Enters room and starts smashing pots against the wall.......

{"Autos....? AUTOS!!!????"}

"Oh boy, here he comes again...."

"Who's that?"

"Weed Hitler"

Well zieg friggin hiel

 

[Paleosoul]

Describe what you mean by good? Anesia's photos are on a whole different level than most photoperiod genetics sold by other breeders. There's a few but only a few that can compete strain to strain with them.

Anesia Autos are slightly less potent than their photo period cousins ... but we're still talking mid to upper 20's in THC percent.

I like Anesia, but you've demonstrated my point: autos aren't as potent as photos. I am not going to buy auto seeds when I'm guaranteed more potent plants from photos.

Also, being an indoor grower, there is no point in autos for me. Giving up control of something as basic as flowering, for lower potency plants, would be an absurd choice.

Another problem with the whole seed industry now is (WARNING: OFF TOPIC RANT) second rate hack seed sellers, like ILGM and Crop King. If you get autos from these hacks, they are going to be 3rd rate. If I were to buy auto seeds, I'd look into real breeders, like Ethos or Anesia.

 

[Captspaulding]

I like Anesia, but you've demonstrated my point: autos aren't as potent as photos. I am not going to buy auto seeds when I'm guaranteed more potent plants from photos.

Also, being an indoor grower, there is no point in autos for me. Giving up control of something as basic as flowering, for lower potency plants, would be an absurd choice.

Another problem with the whole seed industry now is (WARNING: OFF TOPIC RANT) second rate hack seed sellers, like ILGM and Crop King. If you get autos from these hacks, they are going to be 3rd rate. If I were to buy auto seeds, I'd look into real breeders, like Ethos or Anesia.

It’s only natural that photos will be more potent, over time I have seen the percentages creep up in terms of potency, which is a step in the right direction, they can be handy for speedy grows, but still lack in finishing quality when compared to their photo kin, overall weight, the nose, cure time. I do charge less for my auto flower when I do grow them, been 3 years since I’ve done any, it’s been photos since then for all of the obvious reasons. And yes ILGM and crop kings have shaky genetics at best. For me, they are ok, will grow them from time to time, but they don’t hold a candle to the real McCoy…..

 

[Paleosoul]

You can add Pacific Seeds to that group of seed banks.

I don't advocate growing autos indoors. I see it as a viable option for those wishing to grow outdoors in a short summer season.

Yes, Pacific sucks, too.

Those three seed sellers could be responsible for a lot of the anti-auto sentiment that is around. I hear of people getting photos instead of autos, and vice versa. That would be upsetting, either way.

 

[Poekie]

I make my own auto seeds and grow them in summer in Spain.
They are very popular here for outdoor, small, easy to hide, quick extra harvest in summer.
That way i get 3 harvests a year, photos for spring harvest and autumn harvest and autos between May and August.

Its great to have an extra summer harvest, thats why i dont understand all the negativity.
Yes a bit less quality but so what?
I usually make hash or oil from the smaller buds and it gets me very stoned.

Cant clone?
I dont care, i never keep clones anyway, so many varieties to try even after 30 years of growing...

I think autos are great, grow what you like and let others grow what they like.

 

[Captspaulding]

I make my own auto seeds and grow them in summer in Spain.
They are very popular here for outdoor, small, easy to hide, quick extra harvest in summer.
That way i get 3 harvests a year, photos for spring harvest and autumn harvest and autos between May and August.

Its great to have an extra summer harvest, thats why i dont understand all the negativity.
Yes a bit less quality but so what?
I usually make hash or oil from the smaller buds and it gets me very stoned.

Cant clone?
I dont care, i never keep clones anyway, so many varieties to try even after 30 years of growing...

I think autos are great, grow what you like and let others grow what they like.

Couldn’t have said it better myself. You’re quite the sporting gentleman. I can dig it.

 

[BigBlonde]

Auto-flowering plants are bred for specific purposes, and that's not unusual. There's lots of breeding happening. So, why worry about one type of breeding more than any other type of breeding? Perhaps this can be thought of as basic capitalistic business. If there's a market for something, someone will eventually seek to capitalize on that market. Cannabis can be divided into a mind-numbing number of market segments. Each of those may have its own set of breeding attributes.

 

[Lockebox]

Currently planning on running my first pack of autos outside.
Not sure how long I'll be staying at this residence so an outdoor photo harvest is off the table, but I think I can squeeze an auto harvest in.

Less potent or not I'll be happy to get an outdoor grow in this year!

 

[Captspaulding]

Auto-flowering plants are bred for specific purposes, and that's not unusual. There's lots of breeding happening. So, why worry about one type of breeding more than any other type of breeding? Perhaps this can be thought of as basic capitalistic business. If there's a market for something, someone will eventually seek to capitalize on that market. Cannabis can be divided into a mind-numbing number of market segments. Each of those may have its own set of breeding attributes.

Easy, with that objective pragmatic view on cannabis breeding, you may be upsetting a certain subset of cannabis purists who believe that breeding autos will inevitably flood the zone with hermaphroditic alien subpar ganja strains that will be hell bent on nothing more than infiltrating pure master strains. The threat is real I tell you

 

[Itscheese94]

Im sure ruderalis is a cold climate strain could explain the potency and strength as its adapted to the cold environment

 

[BigBlonde]

Easy, with that objective pragmatic view on cannabis breeding, you may be upsetting a certain subset of cannabis purists who believe that breeding autos will inevitably flood the zone with hermaphroditic alien subpar ganja strains that will be hell bent on nothing more than infiltrating pure master strains. The threat is real I tell you

Okay... I'll try not to mention it again.

 

[BigBlonde]

Im sure ruderalis is a cold climate strain could explain the potency and strength as its adapted to the cold environment

Something in the evolution of ruderalis caused potency to be less necessary. If THC is for defense against predators, then the cause of the decreased potency in ruderalis may have been the presence of different predators in the colder climates with shorter growing seasons. If so, I wonder which predators might cause increased potency.

 

[Itscheese94]

Yeh maybe thats why there getting stronger as there getting crossed with hot climate strains

 

[Itscheese94]

Like i said in the other thread about the increased strength closer to light if that makes sense

 

[Itscheese94]

Yeh also indoor And outdoor environments

 

[BigBlonde]

I'm more of an opinion that high THC cannabis is the product of selective breeding. In my youth, most weed was less than 5%. What is it today? 25-30% and sometimes more depending on strains? It's selective breeding that has done that. It's also selective breeding that has brought the thc levels way up in a modern auto flower

True. I, however, was thinking of Darwinian natural selection. It's not important. I'm just kinda stoned right now.

 

[Captspaulding]

True. I, however, was thinking of Darwinian natural selection. It's not important. I'm just kinda stoned right now.

Remove all warning labels, the rest will sort itself out!

 

[The_word]

I prefer photos as well, easier to deal with especially if you have a plant get sick in veg you have time to nurse her back, for an auto… there’s no recovery time, so yeild will suffer.

I do agree it seems that genetics seems to be the key factor, they stunt easily and again no recovery time, so it’s important to start with genetics that are strong hard part is finding them before you start.

Hadn't thought about that aspect to be fair. Thanks!

 

[Mikedin]

Remove all warning labels, the rest will sort itself out!

Nuff’ said

 

[The_word]

Eyes are great because you can observe things with them and then use your brain to draw comparisons. You don't even need any fancy equipment or lab testing, its plain to see for all of those with these miraculous orbs inside our skulls, that Autoflowering genetics are inferior to equivalent photoperiod.

We must ELIMINATE autos and stop this needless watering down of the gene pool. Photoperiods are objectively better than autos, which are basically just hemp plants bred to have a little more thc. All the while, infiltrating our bongs and subverting our mission of creating a better cannabis for the future. PHOTOSUPREMACISTS UNITE! Rid the world of the scourge that is the autoflower!

Love your passion @Jumpingspider