Anyone else feel like bitch slapping a disp owner in the last week?

[Cat Jockey]

No offense to disp folk reading this, not a broad brush I paint with and I would actually appreciate a disp opinion.

This is more a question than a rant to see if any other growers have gotten a sentiment I did from a disp the other that made me both want to laugh at and than bitch slap the guy.

But I didn't. So, I won't name names, as I like the guy and think he and his partners are doing a good job as far being very professional with their operation, presentation, etc. Sputnik would approve. I haven't done any business with them, but I would and they are not hot elf bitches.

Although I haven't done any business with them, I was there as a matter of business concerning another grower I have been helping out getting his op dialed in and my name coming up when the other grower wanted to talk about renegotiating an absofuckinglutely ridiculously low and unrealistic long term price.

So, totally civil and we liked each other certainly before this, but that fills you in on the mindset of the disp owner when Cat Jockey, who really doesn't give a fuck about such mindsets and knew to expect such mindsets and walked out with the same shit eatin' grin I walked in with, walked in the disp door.

The bitch slap offense was the disp losing the forest for the trees with things like:

'We are the ones on the frontline, exposing ourselves, working with lobbiests and growers are riding our coat tails

Paraphrased of course. The problem I have with this is here I sit listening to some dude who has never grown an mj plant in his life and opened a disp just a few months ago talk to me like he is a four star general in the War on Drugs.

Although it hurts like hell to do, I am capable of holding my tongue at times, so I did. But the first thought that came to mind when I heard that shit, well the third thought as the first was to laugh and the second was to bitch slap him was:

'Let me tell you sumpin' Son. Welcome to the front lines. Me, well I've been down in the trenches for the last decade ya knucklehead. About fuckin' time some renforcemtns show. And don't worry. If your greenhorn fresh outta boot camp ass gets shot down, us grizzled veterens will keep the fight up.'

I think this guy is so focused on his own shit he has lost the forest for the trees, which is why I bit my tongue. He doesn't seem to understand that some of those very same genes he is selling are not my grow but from my plants. Plants I have kept alive for years in the trenches, going as far as doing the shit some have to do like scrambling to relocated genes due to a potential security breach, maintaining them at a remote location, getting them back, etc. Playing Johnny Appleseed, planting clones in select gardens I can trust in case I lose mine.

Shit like that. I was never a cash cropper and spent plenty of time looking at nothing more than four dirt plants under a 600 or thowie giving me the digity dank. Not pounds and pounds and pounds a year, but I have thrown my share 'o weed out there. Doing my part. Taking risks, waging the war, doing my part to preserve genetics, etc.

Anyone else getting any of the 'Us disp are what make this happen and you growers are riding our coat tails' shit?

I also think disp might be forgeting that a grower needs less than 20 patients to hit 99. Disp need hundreds to thousands and think they are things to buy and sell for $500. A paitient doesn't really have monetary value to me.

Fuck, now I am doing it, calling them my patients.

 

[Mr.Sputnik]

Maybe the guys who run dispensaries should try and grow, or at least know what a decent sack of weed is and is not.

I have definitely wanted to throwup on some of these fuckers. I quit bringing my edibles around because they were being bought for $3 a piece and sold for $10. It's a fucking ripoff for both supplier and end consumer. If these guys want to make money in retail, they should open up a Niemen Marcus. this is EXACTLY why you don't see some serious chronic in a disp. is because the owners try and lowball everyone and say it's not worth your price. I tell them I'll go to the place down the street (because there is one, where ever you are) and people who know what chronic is will start going to their nearest competition. Fucking noobie trying to tell me want is chronic and what isn't and trying to lowball my ass. I asked a few guys what the ISS stood for and I got "Island stink skunk" and " Island super skunk". I laughed in their face, told them welcome to colorado and left. I don't bite my tounge CJ, but maybe I should sometimes.

Not every disp. is like this, but the majority of them are fucking tardos. More bodega than dispensary IMO. I can tell if some cali import is in the place and it pisses me off to no end. Some yokle from humboldt on a road trip selling pounds for $2,500 out of a van. Most disp. don't even check your red card if you are supplying them. Colorado bud is more dank because of the lower relative humidity, yes we grow more dank nugs at altitude where it's 20-30% rh. Frosty as fuck.

 

[Venom818]

No offense to disp folk reading this, not a broad brush I paint with and I would actually appreciate a disp opinion.

This is more a question than a rant to see if any other growers have gotten a sentiment I did from a disp the other that made me both want to laugh at and than bitch slap the guy.

But I didn't. So, I won't name names, as I like the guy and think he and his partners are doing a good job as far being very professional with their operation, presentation, etc. Sputnik would approve. I haven't done any business with them, but I would and they are not hot elf bitches.

Although I haven't done any business with them, I was there as a matter of business concerning another grower I have been helping out getting his op dialed in and my name coming up when the other grower wanted to talk about renegotiating an absofuckinglutely ridiculously low and unrealistic long term price.

So, totally civil and we liked each other certainly before this, but that fills you in on the mindset of the disp owner when Cat Jockey, who really doesn't give a fuck about such mindsets and knew to expect such mindsets and walked out with the same shit eatin' grin I walked in with, walked in the disp door.

The bitch slap offense was the disp losing the forest for the trees with things like:

'We are the ones on the frontline, exposing ourselves, working with lobbiests and growers are riding our coat tails

Paraphrased of course. The problem I have with this is here I sit listening to some dude who has never grown an mj plant in his life and opened a disp just a few months ago talk to me like he is a four star general in the War on Drugs.

Although it hurts like hell to do, I am capable of holding my tongue at times, so I did. But the first thought that came to mind when I heard that shit, well the third thought as the first was to laugh and the second was to bitch slap him was:

'Let me tell you sumpin' Son. Welcome to the front lines. Me, well I've been down in the trenches for the last decade ya knucklehead. About fuckin' time some renforcemtns show. And don't worry. If your greenhorn fresh outta boot camp ass gets shot down, us grizzled veterens will keep the fight up.'

I think this guy is so focused on his own shit he has lost the forest for the trees, which is why I bit my tongue. He doesn't seem to understand that some of those very same genes he is selling are not my grow but from my plants. Plants I have kept alive for years in the trenches, going as far as doing the shit some have to do like scrambling to relocated genes due to a potential security breach, maintaining them at a remote location, getting them back, etc. Playing Johnny Appleseed, planting clones in select gardens I can trust in case I lose mine.

Shit like that. I was never a cash cropper and spent plenty of time looking at nothing more than four dirt plants under a 600 or thowie giving me the digity dank. Not pounds and pounds and pounds a year, but I have thrown my share 'o weed out there. Doing my part. Taking risks, waging the war, doing my part to preserve genetics, etc.

Anyone else getting any of the 'Us disp are what make this happen and you growers are riding our coat tails' shit?

I also think disp might be forgeting that a grower needs less than 20 patients to hit 99. Disp need hundreds to thousands and think they are things to buy and sell for $500. A paitient doesn't really have monetary value to me.

Fuck, now I am doing it, calling them my patients.

Nice post bro.

mr.spudnik- I need some of what your growing bro if u think your are growing better dank than cali your are sadly mistaking my friend.

 

[sky high]

LOL Venom.

I'm sure Sputnik will share and blow yer mind. (and I can guarantee it won't be purple or tagged "OG Kush")

shit..just the altitude would lay you on yer ass.

be well. breathe hard.

s h

 

[imjussayn]

If anyone is having problems with hot head disp, operators try northend club 420, cool guys one of them is a bit of a hot head,or some might say passionate,never the less ive been assured the"problem" has been taken care of,Ive been to about 6 in the area so ya dude i know the feeling, thats why its best for some of them to just sit back and look pretty,sacred guy is aight also.

 

[Cat Jockey]

These guys aren't sketchy, and although a few months ago the apparent plan was to pass the savings a long, but, yea right. These guys are entrepreneurs and want to expand, so I'll believe the passing the savings on when I see it.

We are talking about a disp buying paying $2000/lb. locked in rate that will go out their door for no less than $6400. A 250% and $4400 mark-up. Granted a bit ago was to pass the discount on, but color me skeptical as fuck.

Yea right.

Same guys think that a grower should buy a patient from them for $500 for the privledge of taking the risk of going to jail for growing plants, hanging them out even further by handing the grower the name of someone they have never met, who could change caregiver without letting the grower know and is in a bigger grey area not knowing the patient.

One thing I am sure we agree on is this nonsense of buying and selling of patients, eh Sputnik. I don't need no steenkin' name from a a disp. Find less than 20 people that have red cards but don't grow work out whatever deal with that person the two of you like that a Dr. has prescribed to them.

Do it right and you won't lose your patients. Let me repharse that. Do it right and you won't lose the people you farm and harvest marijuana for.

All the extra the folks I grow mj for don't need? Well, that should be a lot of extra and welcome to the grey areas.

I tried Sputnik. I won't bust your chops too much more for having patients, but I can't do. For me, there are people out there to whom a Medical Doctor, even the shady Ruskies made it through some type of med school, has recommended they use mj to treat a medical condition.

Sweet. It just so happens I grow the digity dank weed. It also just happens that the digity dank makes the best medicine. Combine that with my back injury and Oh Sweet holy trifecta of sweet shit.

Absolutely. Let me be the first to step up and offer to grow and sell marijuana to you. Fuckin' sweet. Here, buy some extra cheap so you can put a few bucks in your pocket and go spread the love to your friends so they don't send any money south of the border to Cartels and people in Phoenix my start sleeping a little better at night with us doing this.

And absolutely. If I cross paths with you and you have a very serious medical condition, a real deal one, well I am still nothing more than a man that grows marijuana for somebody. Here you go have as much as you feel you need. I have plenty of XBOXer's I grow for - they can buy my weed to pay for your medicine.

 

[CAPO]

Get used to having sub-par collectives around. As long as there is good money in it, the money-hungry will always show up to do business. It is the same in California. Some folks got in for the right personal reasons and some got in it strictly to make money and don't know shit about MJ.
If you cats can keep your heads straight, maybe one day you'll open a collective with a good heart and righteous meds. Instead of these wannabees lining their pockets and feeding their egos.
As far as pissing contests go, well I've held residence in both CO and CA before any presence of the medical scene. Let me say that the outdoor and indoor from both have been spectacular and both have been undesirable. Same goes for the other 5 states I've held residence. More about genetics and nurturing when it comes to the total over-view, but as far as "sweet-spots" where ganja and other plants grow unbelievably well.......they exist. Vancouver island, Maui, along the Mississippi Basin where the sun is hot the soil is rich and there is lots of humidity. There's thousands and some places are really special.
I think if our hearts and mind are in the right places concerning our love {yes..LOVE} for ganja then there is no ego getting in the way, only respect and admiration for such a God given gift...and all that is left is a want to share with like-minded heads.
So on that note I'm gonna spark some glorious self produced homegrown dank and won't be thinking of all the bad energy associated with helping some greedy ego fluffed bastard that knows nothing of the sacred ganja that I hold dear.

 

[Venom818]

LOL Venom.

I'm sure Sputnik will share and blow yer mind. (and I can guarantee it won't be purple or tagged "OG Kush")

shit..just the altitude would lay you on yer ass.

be well. breathe hard.

s h

Lmao-your 2 funny bro u guys think all we grow is og kush or purple we probably have all your strains plus hundreds more bro and we dont need altitude to put you on your ass our strains speak for themselves :party0033:

 

[MileHighChic]

I totally agree with you, Cat! Some disp. owners are decent people but a lot of them seem really sketchy to me. They are ripping patients off with their crazy high prices and are just in the business to make a quick buck.
The whole marijuana scene is just spinning out of control here in Colorado. I like the whole weed freedom thing but I dislike all these greedy thugs who represents themselves as ethical businessmen. They are just ripping patients off!

 

[Trend]

The stores have been and will always be reliant and dependant on the grows/growers...Anyone getting in this thinking otherwise will eventually fall flat...You get what you pay for,and sometimes if your lucky you get a good deal on some fire and that's when you make your profit. Some strains/purchases will hardly break even after you put in shake,drying losses,stem and makin that 3.6 here and there. But thats life and thats if its a shop that even accounts for those things some pass it along. How well its grown,cured,flushed and what strain is what should determine pricing...thank goodness most that cali outdoor has finally stopped flooding in,now you see the bullshit"not outdoor,year round heated greenhouse" garbage...So rare to find a good vendored product,maybe maybe 1 in every 30-50 people I see something nice come thru. Maybe...

 

[Cat Jockey]

If you cats can keep your heads straight, maybe one day you'll open a collective with a good heart and righteous meds. Instead of these wannabees lining their pockets and feeding their egos.

I think the righteous meds will eventually become more prevalent. I'm stealing that btw, righteous meds. Awesome. I think the disp model with a grower doing wholesale to the disp could work well. I'd like to see disp step up, keep charging the XBOXers $50 an 1/8 of quality, not sub par, and then hook up their people that they know have a serious medical issue.

Lot's of people try to hide from the fact that most red card holders in Colorado ain't got a fuckin' thing wrong with them. O, my back is sore. Yea. Welcome to a species still evolving to walk upright. Everyone's back is sore. Duh.

I champion the fact that most red card holders ain't got a fucking thing wrong with them.

It means we are winning. And instead of the divisions I see in mmj because of such things, we can use that victory to help those that truly do need medical mj, to cover grower and disp costs so they can have their meds for free.

Sign up you sore back 23 y.o. mofo's. Sign up in droves, cause your obligation in the War on Drugs, young lads, is the ability to be able to legally buy my digity dank and to pay for the medicine given to the few people the disp has that really do need it for reasons other than to just get high, which is fine by me. And to use my digity dank you buy from me to keep as much money outta the hands of Drug Cartels.

Get to work soldier.

As far as pissing contests go, well I've held residence in both CO and CA before any presence of the medical scene. Let me say that the outdoor and indoor from both have been spectacular and both have been undesirable.

Bingo. Definitely have to give props to The Emerald Triangle. Colorado isn't the best outdoor climate in general. That being said I think that what is a bit underrated about Colorado is the number of stoners that have been here for years, how ingrained it is into certain aspects of the culture, like in NorCal and how laid back Colorado has always been concerning recreational weed use.

 

[Cat Jockey]

I like the whole weed freedom thing but I dislike all these greedy thugs who represents themselves as ethical businessmen.

Legislators or no legislators, we will weed them out. Pun inteneded of course.

Riff raff is everywhere. Doctors, lawyers, politicians, weed growers, disp, etc. New industries do this, especially, one coming partialyl of the Black Market. Time will take care of it. The peeps just gotta let each other know who the crooks are.

Human nature. Gotta expect it.

 

[chrometrichs]

Colorado bud is more dank because of the lower relative humidity, yes we grow more dank nugs at altitude where it's 20-30% rh. Frosty as fuck.

#1-If you grew enough good weed in CO there wouldn't be a market for cali's outdoor, in cali, we have so much dank, outdoor is an export.
#2 Three counties in norcal produce more weed than all of colorado's outdoor, indoor and mexican brick weed combined. Which has worldwide recognition for its quality. I've lived abroad, never once have I seen or heard of colorado outdoor. Including when I lived in CO!
#3 If your growing great weed in CO, thats great. But whining about how dispensary owners can get equal or better quality weed at a cheaper price is the reality of the market.
#4 I agree that growers get the short end of the stick. Most dispensary owners have never grown, can barely spell dank, and completely rob patients and growers in the interest of profits. But your not going to find many shoulders to cry on here. Open your own dispensary, delivery service, or collective, pay your growers more and charge your patients less. Set an example for the rest of the community to follow.

 

[Mr.Sputnik]

Venom, what's the realtive humidity there in the bay? like 70% on a clear day? Plants make THC to protect their seeds from drying out. the drier the more THC, although it's really rough on the plant to go less than 20%. Is it dry AND cool in SF? no. you need altitude for that. I'm sure you guys will out yield us with that high rh. Genetics? it's simply about environment. If you gave me a clone of X and we both grew it in our respective environments, you would yield more and mine would be more dank. I'm not trying to say there aren't some rediculously excellent strains in cali (I'm no fool, northern california is one of if not THE premier place for strain origin) but it comes down to environment. Try growing at altitude, you'll see.

 

[chrometrichs]

Sputnik are you saying that a desert is more hospitable to plants than a tropical paradise? Please run 20% humidity in your indoor room and get back with us on how thats working out, btw are you under the impression cali doesnt have mountains?

 

[SB805KUSH]

tell it like it is....chrometrichs. drive east not west.west is flooded.

 

[CAPO]

Shit man we used to have "weed church" every Sunday down in the "train car" park in Boulder back in '95. It started out as 20-30 people..then in 1 months time we had well over 150. I got caught smokin ganja 1 time early in the morning up in Chatagua park under the Flat Irons and got a ticket for a whole $50. I told the cop, who gave me my bowl and pog container back, that I wasn't goin to pay his fine as a protest, at which he snickered. Guess what.... I never paid...I suppose the statute of limitations provides me safe haven if I ever were to grace CO with my presence again.hehe
I loved the true mountain folks that I encountered out there. Co definitely has some decent folks with brains too, which should be apparent to any one reading and understanding some of the posts concerning.
When I lived there, it was a magical time in my life, one that I won't soon forget. I don't blame anyone for trying to preserve any of the long held dignity of such an interesting mecca. I probably can only reassure folks that the scene will probably mellow as the general economy improves, then maybe some will go back to scamming good folks out of there money by some other avenue.

 

[Mr.Sputnik]

tell it like it is....chrometrichs. drive east not west.west is flooded.

Yea, all the way to DC. We're flooded with a bunch of cali weed too! you guys keep all of the good stuff!

I didn't say desert, read my post, it says altitiude.

I have personally run my rh at 25% before. I have yet to see shit more frosty. The strain was red columbian from THC laboratories.

 

[edux10]

i do believe a lot of big growers are using dehumidifiers, and a/cs which drop the humidity. Lets not start a pissing contest here.... CO and CA both have dank bud, as do many non medical stated. Its called Enviromental Control. Shit is awesome!

 

[Mr.Sputnik]

I'm not trying to start a pissing contest, CA has some really dank shit. Where does all of my equipment and nutes come from? cali. Walk into a room that's at 25% rh and 65 degrees. It feels like 9,000ft in the summer. crisp. That's my point. That's it. crisp makes trichromes. I personally don't know a single grower who uses an ac up here, even in the summer. My room never seems to go over 78* or 35% rh in the summer (lights on at night) unless there is a big rain storm, and it doesn't rain very often.

OK, we're getting way off topic. Who else in CO wants to bitch slap one of these beaster bodegas? Come on... Coooooome on...