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THE TRAINWRECK. Brought to you by thcfarrmer…..

Don't overthink it yet, plants are like people each Genetic has different preferences within the range. Like random guy Bob may like it in then 60s and random guy Jim likes it in the 80s, you know what I'm saying? Yo but if neither bob or Jim can...
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cannafarmer420 said:
Don't overthink it yet, plants are like people each Genetic has different preferences within the range. Like random guy Bob may like it in then 60s and random guy Jim likes it in the 80s, you know what I'm saying?
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Yo but if neither bob or Jim can verbally say it’s too cold or too hot then how do we communicate?
 
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climbit said:
Yo but if neither bob or Jim can verbally say it’s too cold or too hot then how do we communicate?
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Over time you will start to notice details about the plants and you will know something is wrong. Like, Babies can't tell us what they need, just gotta figure it out you know through experience
 
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Rama777 said:
It depends on how the parent genetics evolved to an extent as well. Different plants have different strategies for coping with VPD stress, both high and low. So let’s say you take a landrace from Nepal and a land race from Mexico and stick them under the same LED light source in the same grow space. I guarantee as you take the VPD up and down in that space that the leaf surface temperatures of the two plants under the exact same conditions will vary by a minimum of a half a degree at most values and respond differently.

Put them under HPS lights and they will probably vary even more dramatically as plants have to adapt their conductance capacities to climates with very different UV and IR exposure.

Under LED’s and in the absence of IR, the plants have a pressure variable that the plants weirdly don’t have to respond to. It’s odd.

But to the former, I’m quite sure that’s why studies are inconclusive with respect to how supplemental UV lights do or don’t cause an increase in “quality.” I’d venture to guess that a landrace that is exposed to lower levels of UV in its natural habitat would be the one that increases in trichomes/terpenes because it would be a stress response. A landrace that is used to higher UV probably doesn’t give a shit if you hit em’ with it.

All of these variables are fascinating and, in my estimation they are precious. The endless meddling with genetics destroys the quality of marijuana on an essential level. On the quantitative level not so much. I’m not talking about lab studies of molecule percentages. Do you pine for the newest sativa cross with the highest THC ever recorded by man or do you want the fucking real Neville’s Haze? Quantity is related to substance. Quality is related to essence. Lab technicians measure substance where essence will always escape him as he has at best an inkling of its existence.

Take some peyote in Mexico. Now take some San Pedro in Peru. Your experience will be very, very different. Yet, the measurable substance that we are told causes our experience is mescaline. The unquantifiable essence is the meat and potatoes of whatever trip you’d take..

Wait what? Where am I? Oh yeah, leaf surface temperatures 😂
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Well said, the most enjoyable high I’ve had in the last five years was from some purple haze that topped out at 12% thc. I regularly smoke shit that pushes 30% thc and I’m sitting there waiting for some grand experience that never comes.
 
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MartyMcFly42oh said:
Well said, the most enjoyable high I’ve had in the last five years was from some purple haze that topped out at 12% thc. I regularly smoke shit that pushes 30% thc and I’m sitting there waiting for some grand experience that never comes.
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My theory is that the older strains were closer to 1:1 or 2:1 thc:cbd so they give a broader cannabinoid experience that manifests as a more potent or stronger high.
 
#19,355
Rama777 said:
How do I not know what ozium is? Was it literally ozone in a spray can?
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cannafarmer420 said:
It was some really nasty stuff back in the day, worked but I didn't use it personally.
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JKash said:
I still can get it!!!🤣🤣🤣

Works great for car rentals
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Yup, can still buy it at Walmart in the air freshener aisle where they sell Febreeze and those air wick plug in things.. I don't think it's actual ozone in a can but they claim it "cleans the air".. I don't know about all that, but the stuff is the most potent odor remover/cover-upper I've ever found lol

Smells sorta citrus like orange/lemon scented. It works great. Probably wouldn't want to breathe it in though 🤣
 
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#19,358
Question.....

When someone @ s you, aren't you supposed to see it?

There are soooo many threads/posts that I respond to and when someone @Bilber me, I don't know that they have.....

Kind of a bummer cause I'm thinking that they think that I don't want to respond to them......

Any help with this issue, or do I just hope I catch it?
 
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Rama777 said:
It depends on how the parent genetics evolved to an extent as well. Different plants have different strategies for coping with VPD stress, both high and low. So let’s say you take a landrace from Nepal and a land race from Mexico and stick them under the same LED light source in the same grow space. I guarantee as you take the VPD up and down in that space that the leaf surface temperatures of the two plants under the exact same conditions will vary by a minimum of a half a degree at most values and respond differently.

Put them under HPS lights and they will probably vary even more dramatically as plants have to adapt their conductance capacities to climates with very different UV and IR exposure.

Under LED’s and in the absence of IR, the plants have a pressure variable that the plants weirdly don’t have to respond to. It’s odd.

But to the former, I’m quite sure that’s why studies are inconclusive with respect to how supplemental UV lights do or don’t cause an increase in “quality.” I’d venture to guess that a landrace that is exposed to lower levels of UV in its natural habitat would be the one that increases in trichomes/terpenes because it would be a stress response. A landrace that is used to higher UV probably doesn’t give a shit if you hit em’ with it.

All of these variables are fascinating and, in my estimation they are precious. The endless meddling with genetics destroys the quality of marijuana on an essential level. On the quantitative level not so much. I’m not talking about lab studies of molecule percentages. Do you pine for the newest sativa cross with the highest THC ever recorded by man or do you want the fucking real Neville’s Haze? Quantity is related to substance. Quality is related to essence. Lab technicians measure substance where essence will always escape him as he has at best an inkling of its existence.

Take some peyote in Mexico. Now take some San Pedro in Peru. Your experience will be very, very different. Yet, the measurable substance that we are told causes our experience is mescaline. The unquantifiable essence is the meat and potatoes of whatever trip you’d take..

Wait what? Where am I? Oh yeah, leaf surface temperatures 😂
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Damn... i wish you didn't bring the extinction of the real haze phenos up.. brings a tear to my eye every time 😢..

In all seriousness, i do appreciate the information.. gets me thinkin.
 
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