Really droopy leaves, they feel wet but dry at the same time.

[Mikebrad2622]

Recently started growing.everything has been great up until recently. Trying to get an understanding on what is going on with them at this point... Week 6 flower 75 to 85° with 45 to 50% humidity 3 gal fabric pots watering about every 3 days, as dry with full dose of nutrients. Flora pro series nutrients 10 part. They've been on the decline the past few days, what are your opinions please and thank you.

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

You didnt bring that other plant in recently did you?

Im assuming at this point you'd be able to tell if you had been over or under watering. Thats a very even and consistent wilt. Fungal alarm bells might be going off but im not sure. How dry is the soil rn? Ive had plants with root rot start to look this way. Those odd placed dead spots of tissue were on said plants too.

 

[Mikebrad2622]

You didnt bring that other plant in recently did you?

Im assuming at this point you'd be able to tell if you had been over or under watering. Thats a very even and consistent wilt. Fungal alarm bells might be going off but im not sure. How dry is the soil rn? Ive had plants with root rot start to look this way. Those odd placed dead spots of tissue were on said plants too.

That's a mango tree me and my daughter started from a store bought seed like 2ish months ago maybe 3...It's still moist. The plants themselves feel soggy almost. I hear you, I actually was weighing them when dry then when wet just to kind of perfect my watering but I'm not sure at all.

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

That's a mango tree me and my daughter started from a store bought seed like 2ish months ago maybe 3...It's still moist. The plants themselves feel soggy almost. I hear you, I actually was weighing them when dry then when wet just to kind of perfect my watering but I'm not sure at all.

Well im right there with ya then, with a lean towards something fungal. I was just suspicious of the other plant, but if seed grown and its been in there with them, probably not the source, but maybe remove it just in case the plants do have something fungal.

I havent had to deal with any fungal issues much outside outdoor budrot/pm. Im not a kean eye at all for diagnosing those issues, but i am def leaning towards fungal.

Verticillium wilt maybe? do they recover to any degree at night?


Im only throwing darts at the board because no one else is yet.. Only thing ive had personally do plants like this was bud rot. But thats just another root infection too, just bacterial in origin. I know there are fungal infections that do things like this. Whatever the issue is, id almost bet money it's in the roots though.


The (probably) bad news is, with plants that far into flower, neither one is usually curable. The roots have hardened and mostly stopped growing at this point. To tear off the band-aid i guess.


im not sure if itll work with any fungal infections, i know it wont with verticillium, but with root rot you can halt it with H202 solutions. Your plant will not recover fully, but it wont die. Assuming its root rot (Pythium) anyway

 

[Mikebrad2622]

Well im right there with ya then, with a lean towards something fungal. I was just suspicious of the other plant, but if seed grown and its been in there with them, probably not the source, but maybe remove it just in case the plants do have something fungal.

I havent had to deal with any fungal issues much outside outdoor budrot/pm. Im not a kean eye at all for diagnosing those issues, but i am def leaning towards fungal.

Verticillium wilt maybe? do they recover at night?


Im only throwing darts at the board because no one else is yet.. Only thing ive had personally do plants like this was bud rot. And i know there are fungal infections that do things like this. Whatever the issue is, id almost bet money it's in the roots though.

I will check tonight and look into above said. I appreciate your help.

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

I will check tonight and look into above said. I appreciate your help.

just for clarity sake, i typed "bud rot" a couple times but meant to type "root rot". didnt notice, too late to edit.

 

[Mikebrad2622]

just for clarity sake, i typed "bud rot" a couple times but meant to type "root rot". didnt notice, too late to edit.

Appreciate it. I didn't notice but I read root rot, not bud rot. Thanks again

 

[Bilber]

Hey Mike.....for shits, do you know the p.h.?

 

[Mikebrad2622]

Hey Mike.....for shits, do you know the

Hey Mike.....for shits, do you know the p.h.?

About 6.2 run off

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

for a plant to be that far gone from a PH imbalance, especially in the acidic direction, it would usually be crispy as a roasted peanut shell and covered in magnesium and calcium lockout signs head to tow. at least in my experience. Although there is always room for exceptions to everything.


Soil or soiless? if soil your drainage is a bit low though. May have some acidic salts building up. It'd have to be really bad for the plant to look like this though, and usually, yea would be quite a crispy critter in my experience. Wouldnt have much soft tissue left to the leaves. Although if happening incredibly rapidly..... maybe not.


Bilber may be onto something im not sure.

 

[Mikebrad2622]

About 6.2 run off

Here's this morning

 

[Bilber]

10 part feed ? Everything under the sun....

Do you feed till run-off? How much run-off? Do you water super slow to let the medium absorb it?

When you finish mixing your nutes, what is the ph, ec, ppm ?

Salt build-up was mentioned also......

 

[Mikebrad2622]

10 part feed ? Everything under the sun....

Do you feed till run-off? How much run-off? Do you water super slow to let the medium absorb it?

When you finish mixing your nutes, what is the ph, ec, ppm ?

Salt build-up was mentioned also......

Yea I know...up until about a month ago I would hand water but going away soon so added automated feeding so they don't get water until runoff but enough water. Oh has been about 6.2.. ec around 2.2 And ppm about 1150...if salt built up what's your recommendation? Are they save able?

 

[Mikebrad2622]

for a plant to be that far gone from a PH imbalance, especially in the acidic direction, it would usually be crispy as a roasted peanut shell and covered in magnesium and calcium lockout signs head to tow. at least in my experience. Although there is always room for exceptions to everything.


Soil or soiless? if soil your drainage is a bit low though. May have some acidic salts building up. It'd have to be really bad for the plant to look like this though, and usually, yea would be quite a crispy critter in my experience. Wouldnt have much soft tissue left to the leaves. Although if happening incredibly rapidly..... maybe not.


Bilber may be onto something im not sure

Very crispy...happy frog soil.. any hopes of saving?

 

[climbit]

Hate these kinda problems. The symptoms are giving strong overwatered vibes. Have you tried extending the dry period ?? Not much help here

 

[Mikebrad2622]

Hate these kinda problems. The symptoms are giving strong overwatered vibes. Have you tried extending the dry period ?? Not much help here

Stop watering 2 days ago dry as a bone

 

[mobshit]

looks like you let the medium dry too much and hurt it.

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

Yea I know...up until about a month ago I would hand water but going away soon so added automated feeding so they don't get water until runoff but enough water. Oh has been about 6.2.. ec around 2.2 And ppm about 1150...if salt built up what's your recommendation? Are they save able?

hey sometimes, if you water til runoff, because of surface tensions more water will actually come out of the pot then if you water with no runoff, meaning in some cases watering less leaves more around the roots. This is the case with peat. It can be funky in few different ways with water's surface tensions. If you dont water til runoff in a peat based soiless mix youll actually be leaving *more* water around the roots then if you water til runoff.

dont think that has anything to do with this though.

2 days dry as a bone?

Stop watering 2 days ago dry as a bone

As your flowers develop they will start to pull the moisture faster and faster from the soil. Didnt realize you had it automated to every 3 days i figured you just meant thats been about the frequency you've been watering.

If its been watered every 3 days, but after 2 is bone dry... well there's your problem.

 

[Mikebrad2622]

hey sometimes, if you water til runoff, because of surface tensions more water will actually come out of the pot then if you water with no runoff, meaning in some cases watering less leaves more around the roots. This is the case with peat. It can be funky in few different ways with water's surface tensions. If you dont water til runoff in a peat based soiless mix youll actually be leaving *more* water around the roots then if you water til runoff.

dont think that has anything to do with this though.

2 days dry as a bone?


As your flowers develop they will start to pull the moisture faster and faster from the soil. Didnt realize you had it automated to every 3 days i figured you just meant thats been about the frequency you've been watering.

If its been watered every 3 days, but after 2 is bone dry... well there's your problem.

So I'll switch the days of watering every 2 to 3..I check almost every morning b4 work and if they're still moist and heavier I'll leave them be an switch the days but if they're light I'll water..thinking maybe it didn't water for a few days and I neglected them?.. usually I keep them fairly moist man. Thanks

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

So I'll switch the days of watering every 2 to 3..I check almost every morning b4 work and if they're still moist and heavier I'll leave them be an switch the days but if they're light I'll water..thinking maybe it didn't water for a few days and I neglected them?.. usually I keep them fairly moist man. Thanks

you want them to mostly dry out before you water them again, you just dont want to let them get cracker dry or wilt.

Keeping them moist all the time is often as bad as letting them dry out all the way. And a plant with bad root rot setting in, and a cracker dry and wilted plant can often look almost identical. believe it or not.