Really droopy leaves, they feel wet but dry at the same time.

[JaBy]

Here's this morning

i like pictures of sparkling buds. i didn't hit the like cause it saddens me to see what appears to have been a really good bunch of bud looking ill. hoping you are able to bring them around. they look like there is some nice buddage. Best Wishes.

 

[Mikebrad2622]

yea you got root rot in there my brother.

its not the ropey roots that rot, its the fine hairs. Once those fine hair are lost, a plant can no longer uptake nutrient or moisture reliably, and that the entire reason root rot looks so much like a simple wilted plant.

Your looking for discolored brown/yellow ropey roots, and the lack of fine hairs grabbing the soil, mainly down low in the pot, exactly what you have here. Sometimes depending on the bacteria causing it, it may smell like stagnant water, sometimes it may just smell like soil (ive assumed fungal rot in those instances).

If it doesnt smell like stagnant water it was probably verticillium wilt. (fungal root infection) and get your daughter's mango the hell out of that tent lol. Some plants fight of verticillium just fine, but the ones that dont die, it is incurable once colonized to a root system.

Understood. It smells like wet soil at this point lol nothing weird I guess. Should I kill this last plant, sanitize and just try again? I messed these plants up in the beginning honestly, think I vegged them an extra month or so because they got stunted due to hot soil in my opinion and just wouldn't grow for a while. But here we are now, learning I guess lol

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

i like pictures of sparkling buds. i didn't hit the like cause it saddens me to see what appears to have been a really good bunch of bud looking ill. hoping you are able to bring them around. they look like there is some nice buddage. Best Wishes.

Oh yea, those flowers are still gonna do what ya want flowers to do. There's some legit quality there for sure. Id be happy to smoke some of that.


May not be rock hard or the yield he was after, but i bet his next run will make this one look like child's play

Fwiw, early harvested indica doms at about week 6 to 7 make some of the best dabs ive ever had in my lungs

 

[Mikebrad2622]

i like pictures of sparkling buds. i didn't hit the like cause it saddens me to see what appears to have been a really good bunch of bud looking ill. hoping you are able to bring them around. they look like there is some nice buddage. Best Wishes.

I appreciate the Words, I too thought they were doing pretty okay. 1 still hanging on.

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

Understood. It smells like wet soil at this point lol nothing weird I guess. Should I kill this last plant, sanitize and just try again? I messed these plants up in the beginning honestly, think I vegged them an extra month or so because they got stunted due to hot soil in my opinion and just wouldn't grow for a while. But here we are now, learning I guess lol

you can h202 the root zone, and see if you can get a bit more ripeness out of her, but its a total shot in the dark. If she doesnt ripen any more or stays completely stunted the thc content of the flower vs dry weight etc, may be worse several days from now then it is now. A plant damaged that much that late in flower, i usually tend to give a cut, and a blast, and a dab personally. But thats just me. Altho theres a legit reason to leave one going for the sake of learning something and observing while you have the opportunity, just keep other plants that are healthy tf away from it lmao.


if no smell of sulfides or Pythium (really get in there, its not going to smell as strongly as stagnant water does, it will just be the same smell, kinda like propane, kinda like hard boiled eggs but light, youll prob only smell it within a couple inches of infected soil mass), its likely a potentially contagious fungal infection.

 

[Sunasun]

So your root zone only covered the top fifth of your substrate. Your volume of watering is under what your soil volume necessitates to be properly and thoroughly moistened. Water to runoff in the future like others have mentioned.

 

[Mikebrad2622]

So your root zone only covered the top fifth of your substrate. Your volume of watering is under what your soil volume necessitates to be properly and thoroughly moistened. Water to runoff in the future like others have mentioned.

Up until about 2 months ago I hand watered until decent runoff. I guess I'm going back to hand watering. Thanks

 

[Beachbumm]

So I'll switch the days of watering every 2 to 3..I check almost every morning b4 work and if they're still moist and heavier I'll leave them be an switch the days but if they're light I'll water..thinking maybe it didn't water for a few days and I neglected them?.. usually I keep them fairly moist man. Thanks

No, they're under watered, not over

Up until about 2 months ago I hand watered until decent runoff. I guess I'm going back to hand watering. Thanks

Yup, was under watered, not over.

 

[GNick55]

Understood. It smells like wet soil at this point lol nothing weird I guess. Should I kill this last plant, sanitize and just try again? I messed these plants up in the beginning honestly, think I vegged them an extra month or so because they got stunted due to hot soil in my opinion and just wouldn't grow for a while. But here we are now, learning I guess lol

no such thing as hot soil, geezus

 

[Mikebrad2622]

no such thing as hot soil, geezus

Ok so every decent grower I've seen talk about hot soil. How bout the difference between starting 2 seeds 1 straight in happy frog soil and the other in a jiffy pod and then transplanted to 1 gallon of hf soil. I'll get some pictures later of how stunted the seedling was and still is from being dropped straight into happy frog. But like I said that's just from collective information I've gathered on top of my own little "experiment"...but I'm new so I'm listening...

 

[GNick55]

Ok so every decent grower I've seen talk about hot soil. How bout the difference between starting 2 seeds 1 straight in happy frog soil and the other in a jiffy pod and then transplanted to 1 gallon of hf soil. I'll get some pictures later of how stunted the seedling was and still is from being dropped straight into happy frog. But like I said that's just from collective information I've gathered on top of my own little "experiment"...but I'm new so I'm listening...

hot soil is an excuse for human error,.. especially soil bought for growing,.. anyone/site says otherwise than i wouldn’t believe anything they say,..

 

[Mikebrad2622]

Ok so every decent grower I've seen talk about hot soil. How bout the difference between starting 2 seeds 1 straight in happy frog soil and the other in a jiffy pod and then transplanted to 1 gallon of hf soil. I'll get some pictures later of how stunted the seedling was and still is from being dropped straight into happy frog. But like I said that's just from collective information I've gathered on top of my own little "experiment"...but I'm new so I'm listening...

hot soil is an excuse for human error,.. especially soil bought for growing,.. anyone/site says otherwise than i wouldn’t believe anything they say,..

Ok master grower let's see your success and how do you start yours exactly? I'm trying to learn the "right way" so help a brother out.

 

[GNick55]

Ok master grower let's see your success and how do you start yours exactly? I'm trying to learn the "right way" so help a brother out.

ok
and i post everything i do every sunday so its just not talk,..
google hot soil and what do you find?
just other grower using it as an excuse for failure,. there’s is no science about it as it absurd,.
i germinate my seeds my putting them into a glass of water/peroxide at a strength of 6-7% for 10-12 hours, than i have small tiny cups to plant in which are filled with a promix and a hole an inch deep or so than filled half way with peat lightly packed down as a bed for the seed, so after 12 hours of either floating or sinking which does not matter, i remove with a small spoon and place on peat bed and cover with a pinch of promix,. whoops i should say my promix is already pre amended with gaia green and the soil placed in cup is also moisten/watered before planting seed,.
than i use a spray bottle to moisten the surface,.
i than put under a t5 light,.. here video

and that way i never ever touch the seed with my hands or the plant till transplant or i just go ahead and touch it for some reason,.. and usually seeds start popping thru in 2 days,.

 

[Mikebrad2622]

ok
and i post everything i do every sunday so its just not talk,..
google hot soil and what do you find?
just other grower using it as an excuse for failure,. there’s is no science about it as it absurd,.
i germinate my seeds my putting them into a glass of water/peroxide at a strength of 6-7% for 10-12 hours, than i have small tiny cups to plant in which are filled with a promix and a hole an inch deep or so than filled half way with peat lightly packed down as a bed for the seed, so after 12 hours of either floating or sinking which does not matter, i remove with a small spoon and place on peat bed and cover with a pinch of promix,. whoops i should say my promix is already pre amended with gaia green and the soil placed in cup is also moisten/watered before planting seed,.
than i use a spray bottle to moisten the surface,.
i than put under a t5 light,.. here video
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and that way i never ever touch the seed with my hands or the plant till transplant or i just go ahead and touch it for some reason,.. and usually seeds start popping thru in 2 days,.

Awesome but isn't Gaia Green more organic? I mean I hear you and I'm not arguing anything accept for the way these 2 plants turned out. The tall one was started in a jiffy pod(peat moss) and on the right straight to happy frog. Both germinated in paper towels method with about even tap root when planted. My first 3 plants I grew took forever to get taller and I now believe it's the soil.

 

[Beachbumm]

Awesome but isn't Gaia Green more organic? I mean I hear you and I'm not arguing anything accept for the way these 2 plants turned out. The tall one was started in a jiffy pod(peat moss) and on the right straight to happy frog. Both germinated in paper towels method with about even tap root when planted. My first 3 plants I grew took forever to get taller and I now believe it's the soil.View attachment 2194646View attachment 2194647

Hot soil is a myth, going by those pictures I'd guess it's the way you water.

The jiffy pot stayed wet but the one in the soil where you just water right around the stem never gives the plant a chance to spread roots

You just killed your whole tent by watering like that. Recommend not continuing that practice. You have to water the whole pot.

 

[GNick55]

Awesome but isn't Gaia Green more organic? I mean I hear you and I'm not arguing anything accept for the way these 2 plants turned out. The tall one was started in a jiffy pod(peat moss) and on the right straight to happy frog. Both germinated in paper towels method with about even tap root when planted. My first 3 plants I grew took forever to get taller and I now believe it's the soil.View attachment 2194646View attachment 2194647

not every plant grows exactly the same u less from clone but think of seeds like kids, some tall some short, some fat, some skinny type of thing,.
more than likely most times it’s improper watering practices,..

 

[Mikebrad2622]

not every plant grows exactly the same u less from clone but think of seeds like kids, some tall some short, some fat, some skinny type of thing,.
more than likely most times it’s improper watering practices,..

Say you water a seedling in a 1gal pot. Would you like gradually water a certain CC of water or would you water the whole pot? There's so many people doing so many different things it's hard to take 1 persons word, turn around and see another successful grower doing basically the opposite lol guess it's called learning for a reason

 

[GNick55]

Say you water a seedling in a 1gal pot. Would you like gradually water a certain CC of water or would you water the whole pot? There's so many people doing so many different things it's hard to take 1 persons word, turn around and see another successful grower doing basically the opposite lol guess it's called learning for a reason

i makesure all the medium is wet than let it all dry out than repeat,. that is the proper way,.

 

[GNick55]

Say you water a seedling in a 1gal pot. Would you like gradually water a certain CC of water or would you water the whole pot? There's so many people doing so many different things it's hard to take 1 persons word, turn around and see another successful grower doing basically the opposite lol guess it's called learning for a reason

i wouldn’t start a seedling in a gallon pot, more like a 100-250ml pot to go through wet/dry cycles quicker,..