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easy cloning without rooting hormone?

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easy cloning without rooting hormone?

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LoveGrowingIt said:
Thanks for the ideas. Clonex is banned where I live, so alternatives are appreciated.
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Never used clonex, how come its baned? Does it have synthetic hormones? I use hemplex, it can be used for rooting clones but I use it as an organic hormone foliar spray. Its a highly concentrated help extract obtained with a method alternating cold and hot to preserve as much hormones as possible. I dont work with clones as I said but the process with hemplex is the same as with clonex and after transplanting you can keep using it foliar or with water, but the dosage with water is too high, its way better assimilated foliarly.
Of course if you prefeer a DIY its great, I just wanted to give you a comercial alternative.
 
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Eledin said:
Never used clonex, how come its baned? Does it have synthetic hormones? I use hemplex, it can be used for rooting clones but I use it as an organic hormone foliar spray. Its a highly concentrated help extract obtained with a method alternating cold and hot to preserve as much hormones as possible. I dont work with clones as I said but the process with hemplex is the same as with clonex and after transplanting you can keep using it foliar or with water, but the dosage with water is too high, its way better assimilated foliarly.
Of course if you prefeer a DIY its great, I just wanted to give you a comercial alternative.
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Did clonex get banned?
 
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Natep said:
Did clonex get banned?
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As far as I know, it's only banned in Washington State. It's approved by the EPA, so it can be sold and used elsewhere in the US. I understand some growers go out of state to buy it.

Eledin said:
Never used clonex, how come its banned?
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I'm not sure. It supposedly contains a highly toxic carcinogen. It's on the banned pesticide list.

Amazon won't ship it here:

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Eledin said:
I use hemplex, it can be used for rooting clones but I use it as an organic hormone foliar spray. Its a highly concentrated kelp extract obtained with a method alternating cold and hot to preserve as much hormones as possible. I dont work with clones as I said but the process with hemplex is the same as with clonex and after transplanting you can keep using it foliar or with water, but the dosage with water is too high, its way better assimilated foliarly.
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I searched for hemplex. It's available in Europe, but I couldn't find it here. I use a kelp fertilizer for my clones and it works. I add it to the water and also as a foliar. Apparently, kelp contains growth hormones. I don't do much cloning, though. I mostly just clone the tops of plants I've grown from seeds.
 
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LoveGrowingIt said:
I searched for hemplex. It's available in Europe, but I couldn't find it here. I use a kelp fertilizer for my clones and it works. I add it to the water and also as a foliar. Apparently, kelp contains growth hormones. I don't do much cloning, though. I mostly just clone the tops of plants I've grown from seeds.
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Yes, kelp contains growing hormones, hemplex is a highly concentrated kelp extract. The thing about kelp meal is that it wont have nearly as much hormones, kelp meal is added for other reasons but its better than nothing. If it comes in a liquid its more likely for it to have more hormones, but still not as much as a fitohormones concentrates. That sucks that hemplex is only available in Europe, there must be another organic hormone booster around there but if youre doing okay with what you have no need for more. Does the kelp you have specify if its high in hormones?
 
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Eledin said:
Does the kelp you have specify if its high in hormones?
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What I have is kelp and seaweed general fertilizer. I couldn't find any information about its hormones. I have it on the shelf because it's a useful organic liquid for foliar feeding. I tried using it with clones and had good results. I don't invest much in cloning, but I'll look for a concentrated extract with hormones. I wonder if there's one that could help seedings grow faster.
 
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LoveGrowingIt said:
What I have is kelp and seaweed general fertilizer. I couldn't find any information about its hormones. I have it on the shelf because it's a useful organic liquid for foliar feeding. I tried using it with clones and had good results. I don't invest much in cloning, but I'll look for a concentrated extract with hormones. I wonder if there's one that could help seedings grow faster.
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Thats precissely what hormone concentrates do, your seedling will grow and root faster and after that your plant will also grow and root faster. As for the liquid kelp you have, Im pretty sure it has hormones so it will help with rooting and also growing, but for the same reason some people use clonex I like to use hemplex which is a concentrate too but 100% organic and can be used foliar during veg and early bloom. I wish I could help you find a good one where you live.
 
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Stokes said:
Really?
Why?
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It seems like a good topic for a thread.

Stokes said:
Want me to smuggle you some?
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Clonex? Nah. I don't clone much because we like to try different strains. Growing from seed is a good way to do it. That said, I have two clones in the flowering tent just finishing their 5th week at 12/12.
 
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you can just put clones in water, and leave em til they root if you want. Takes a while but works fine.


Just replace the water ever couple days. sometimes i get lazy with my fresh clones and just notice at some point they spit out some roots lol.
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These two were water rooted, theyll take off slower then the ones that werent, but i never got to potting em up to root anyway. Theyll be fine. Theyll stall a few days after planting, then take off just fine. Theyve been a little wilty, im still misting em, but that just helps their roots take off quicker tbh, even if they look sad during.
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Is as legit of a method as any other, it just takes longer. I have a friend that grows hydro only for sale, he doesnt smoke, and he is pretty picky with the timing. That doesnt affect his harvest at all, he sells at 8 euros per gram to the cannabis club, he works from only the finest clones. Right now he has White Rainbow from the same mother that produced the 4th price buds in the spannabis club. I like to grow in my supersoil, I know that coco is faster but everyone grows how they like right? There's no wrong way to do it as long as youre not hurting the plant.
 
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Eledin said:
Thats precissely what hormone concentrates do, your seedling will grow and root faster and after that your plant will also grow and root faster. As for the liquid kelp you have, Im pretty sure it has hormones so it will help with rooting and also growing, but for the same reason some people use clonex I like to use hemplex which is a concentrate too but 100% organic and can be used foliar during veg and early bloom. I wish I could help you find a good one where you live.
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I searched and didn't find one that is better than what I have. I've been using it with seedlings and clones, and it does help. I used it for the vegetation stage a few grows back, and the plants loved it, so I'll try adding it to my irrigation water again. It greens the leaves a lot, so it's apparently good for improving N.

I currently have 3 seedlings 10 days from sprouting: Green Gelato auto, Amnesia Haze photo and OG Kush photo. The Green Gelato is not doing well. It looks healthy, but it's very small and growing very slowly. I may have to start another seed. I don't know what's wrong with it.
 
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