Where is the Weed Doctor?

[Redfro89]

Help I've got two plants that have issues. A little backstory on these two plants, strains are :Biscotti and Runtz.

I'm using E.B Stone 420 recipe soil in 15 gal fabric pots
Bone meal amendment
I water them 1.5 gal every few days (finger in soil up to nuckle to feel dampness/dryness)
Alaska FF for veg every 3 weeks
Alaska Morbloom for flower every 3 weeks so (only runtz is flowering)

Backstory on them.

I've been growing in NorCal just a few years now. I decided for 4/20 to take advantage of some deals and get some clones. In the past I've waited to late May to get clones but with the deals said why not (first mistake). I got the clones waited a few days then planted them in 15 gal fabric pots using E.B Stone 420 recipe potting soil and put them outside (mistakes 2 & 3 & 4)

They all took it bad at first, droppy and wilting. Ended up losing one because of it. The others came back, the smaller ones recovered quicker than the taller ones. I noticed in late may early June that some started pre flowering. (I found out since I put them out so early and didn't add light to break up the dark time)

First 8 photos are the Biscotti
9-18 are Runtz

 

[cbrians]

Hey man, welcome. Sorry to hear you lost a plant, I didnt harden mine off when I put them outside and had a two week crisis before they came back.

I don’t know much, I do know fabric pots are hard to water. And with the stems being that purple it looks like a nutrient issue.

You can post in general outdoor growing, I’ll tag some people that helped me out here.

@Oldchucky @Thatoneguyyouknow_ @MaryJane RottenCrotch @Galgrows

 

[cbrians]

well i wasnt sure if you were talking about the main stems of the plant being red, because i couldnt see those clearly enough. Thats caused by deficiency stress. I called the leaf stems petioles. thats what theyre called technically and wanted to draw the distinction so id know which you were talking about in the video lol.

Leaf stems are usually red under artificial light, not natural sunlight. Usually only happens if the plant is stressed out about something under natural sunlight. some will just do that though. One of my biggs phenos does but its my only one atm.

purple and yellow colors to leaves in veg is usually a phosphorous deficiency thing.

^^^this was pointed out to me when @Thatoneguyyouknow_ noticed some off colors on my plants

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

this plant is just all around hungry. Definitely feed her a good even ratio feeding. Looks like it may have tried to flower then revegged. Was it transitioned outside from inside?

 

[cbrians]

this plant is just all around hungry. Definitely feed her a good even ratio feeding. Looks like it may have tried to flower then revegged. Was it transitioned outside from inside?

okay how do you know if it’s too much food or too little

 

[Redfro89]

this plant is just all around hungry. Definitely feed her a good even ratio feeding. Looks like it may have tried to flower then revegged. Was it transitioned outside from inside?

Yeah I got the clones too early. They were getting too much dark time and started to prematurely flower. When the solstice came and daylight increased it started to reveg. I wish I read up more early and got a light to break up the length of darkness.

 

[cbrians]

Yeah I got the clones too early. They were getting too much dark time and started to prematurely flower. When the solstice came and daylight increased it started to reveg. I wish I read up more early and got a light to break up the length of darkness.

I did the same thing, started my seedlings inside and moved them out early may, I got one that’s tried to flower twice now

 

[Natep]

you need a good all around feeding. What do you have available to you?

 

[Bdubs]

More nitrogen for sure, the yellowing of lower leafs. But start using calmag at 1-1.5ml a gallon every feed with that increased nitrogen. I bet that alone would make big progress for her.

 

[Choppr]

Stressed/Revegging Plant, throwing single and 3 bladed fans indicates she went thru a reveg and possibly still is? A lot of outdoor guys are suffering this year from the lack of sunlight (more cloudy days than sunny)In my area, I dont know about your area? Looking at the EB Stone its a good mix for Plants, bone and blood meal has a lot of Nitrogen, plus the Alaska you've been adding seems like she should have what she needs? @Bdubs is recommending cal/mag I dont think that would hurt or just a good cal/nit watering might do the trick for the yellowing(chlorosis) but wont help the reveg, if shes still throwing single and 3 leaf fans (near the top of the plant) shes still in reveg and ferts wont have any effect, She is Producing Auxins that are cause by Photoperiod Changes/disruptions/poor timings etc. hence the reveg (basically in a state of confusion). Current pics your soil looks dry, this will cause chlorosis too.? I hate clones for Outdoor. Plants from seed always perform better than clones. good luck

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

Stressed/Revegging Plant, throwing single and 3 bladed fans indicates she went thru a reveg and possibly still is? A lot of outdoor guys are suffering this year from the lack of sunlight (more cloudy days than sunny)In my area, I dont know about your area? Looking at the EB Stone its a good mix for Plants, bone and blood meal has a lot of Nitrogen, plus the Alaska you've been adding seems like she should have what she needs? @Bdubs is recommending cal/mag I dont think that would hurt or just a good cal/nit watering might do the trick for the yellowing(chlorosis) but wont help the reveg, if shes still throwing single and 3 leaf fans (near the top of the plant) shes still in reveg and ferts wont have any effect, She is Producing Auxins that are cause by Photoperiod Changes/disruptions/poor timings etc. hence the reveg (basically in a state of confusion). Current pics your soil looks dry, this will cause chlorosis too.? I hate clones for Outdoor. Plants from seed always perform better than clones. good luck

Cloudy days have never changed my flowering schedule before. They've just made my plants longer and weaker stemmed.

Plants flower when people move em out, even at the solstice, because more people think cannabis flowers based on night hour count. It does not.

It flowers when it can tell the nights are longer now then they were before.

It's not the total night hour count that makes me flower, it's the change in hour count staying consistent. Easy misunderstanding to make, but it's one of the most worth knowing if you plan on putting plants outdoors.

I haven't had an outdoor plant reveg on me in well over a decade. Not since I figured that out tbh.

If you take any plant, even a pure sativa, from 18/6 or 20/4 to close to the summer solstice, but still before it and you weren't already vegging it at that 14.5, most plants are going to think it's time to flower, then realize it isn't and reveg, and by the time they reveg, they're going to realize it's time to flower


You can take a nearly pure sativa vegging at 20/4. And throw it outside a few days after the solstice, and you can expect it to flower, and stay flowering. It'll flower a little slower then it normally would, but it won't reveg. You can take the same sativa vegging at 14/10, throw it outside a week before the solstice with time alined hours, and it'll stay in veg until it's time to naturally flower.

It's really easy to trigger early flowering or revegging in a plant if ya don't totally understand the way that works. Even on heavy sativa's lol.


As far as feeding, if you're bottle feeding give her like a 1200ppm even ratio feed. Make sure your PH isn't too acidic of doing a heavy bottle feed, that could kill a plant this deficient easily. If your top dressing or organic feeding, she wants Nitrogen, phosphorous, calcium, and magnesium all. And in good amounts to boot.

 

[Redfro89]

you need a good all around feeding. What do you have available to you?

Sorry for getting back to you so late, I've got Alaskan fish fertilizer (5-1-1) and Alaskan MorBloom (0-10-10)

 

[Redfro89]

Here's an update on them

Runtz:

Sunset sherbet:

 

[MerryJane22]

Cloudy days have never changed my flowering schedule before. They've just made my plants longer and weaker stemmed.

Plants flower when people move em out, even at the solstice, because more people think cannabis flowers based on night hour count. It does not.

It flowers when it can tell the nights are longer now then they were before.

It's not the total night hour count that makes me flower, it's the change in hour count staying consistent. Easy misunderstanding to make, but it's one of the most worth knowing if you plan on putting plants outdoors.

I haven't had an outdoor plant reveg on me in well over a decade. Not since I figured that out tbh.

If you take any plant, even a pure sativa, from 18/6 or 20/4 to close to the summer solstice, but still before it and you weren't already vegging it at that 14.5, most plants are going to think it's time to flower, then realize it isn't and reveg, and by the time they reveg, they're going to realize it's time to flower


You can take a nearly pure sativa vegging at 20/4. And throw it outside a few days after the solstice, and you can expect it to flower, and stay flowering. It'll flower a little slower then it normally would, but it won't reveg. You can take the same sativa vegging at 14/10, throw it outside a week before the solstice with time alined hours, and it'll stay in veg until it's time to naturally flower.

It's really easy to trigger early flowering or revegging in a plant if ya don't totally understand the way that works. Even on heavy sativa's lol.


As far as feeding, if you're bottle feeding give her like a 1200ppm even ratio feed. Make sure your PH isn't too acidic of doing a heavy bottle feed, that could kill a plant this deficient easily. If your top dressing or organic feeding, she wants Nitrogen, phosphorous, calcium, and magnesium all. And in good amounts to boot.

Hey there, sorry to ask a question on such an old post.....but you're the weed doc I'm personally in need of.....I've got an 8 week old photo vegging with my flowering autos (under 19/5) I've been adding an extra hour to the photo.....should I just keep on doing this (until it matches what nature is doing)? thank you so much.

This is the first grow I'll have a photo---and also the first grow IN GROUND.....super excited but don't want to reveg. That's what happened to the clone I tried to grow a few years ago (she was a mess lol).