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Sup folks....been a bit since I posted...screwed up and updated this one

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Sup folks....been a bit since I posted...screwed up and updated this one

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Sup. I ain't posted since after last falls outdoor harvest. Am update on that...

I got about 16 oz off of those 4 plants out there, and only lost 1 branch to bud rot.

Now, I did an indoor grow. Man, the idea is the same, but the challenges are a little bit more, at least for now.

Did my first serious indoor grow. I went out, and grabbed up 2 HLG 200RSpec lights. I just had to cut the plants down, just shy of 8 weeks. Woulda been 8 weeks this wednesday. Lost them to bud rot. So angry about that. Only a handfull of buds were affected, but, I chopped the entire crop down. I ain't gonna monkey around with it. Got a whiff or 2 of them crap buds and my sinuses are...irritated. Almost as irritated as I am about wasting all that electricity to grow these things. Couple of them were dense as hell, and looked good. Spin the bud around to check and boom, bud rot. The entire plants weren't affected, but I dunno if I wanna chance it.

I think maybe I need more airflow. The room size ain't that big really. 3 wide, 2 deep and 6 tall. Wasn't a whole lotta moisture, but these plants exploded under these lights, and the buds were....healthy sized. Dense. I imagine that is how this happened. Low air flow, and dense, sweating buds made for a nice, cozy rest area for the mold to take hold. I had not noticed it until it was too late. I saw a bud a couple weeks back that looked like it maybe had a few cobwebs on it, but nothing serious. I couldn't see the back of the bud tho. On the back, man....fuzzy as all get out. Found 6 more big top buds that were pretty much the same way. The rest of them look ok, but I dunno if I am gonna mess with them. I have not decided yet.

Should I toss the whole lot out, or just be ok knowing I could only see/feel the symptoms on a those buds I found it on?

I'd hate to flush all that money down the tubes. Maybe I can find someone who don't care about it, and give them a great deal, and recoup some of it.

Also, any ideas on what type of air flow I can maybe look into for said small area? Any dehumidifying ideas? It's not a huge space, but I have these killer seeds I wanna get one going of, but not until I get the space better to better try and prevent this from happening again.

anyways...I'll attach a photo of the issue, and one of the salvagable buds (I think)...
 

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What up dude! You got anything going on this season?
 
What up dude! You got anything going on this season?
Yeah. I got some outdoor again goin. Last years turned out pretty good. Started my indoor adventure as well. Got me a couple HLG 200RSpec lights...and you see what happened there with the pics. Lack of airflow. Fixed that issue, and just planted some stuff called "Guzzlers". Heavy indica I guess. Sposed to give a fella "Fractal Vision". We shall see.
 
Yeah. I got some outdoor again goin. Last years turned out pretty good. Started my indoor adventure as well. Got me a couple HLG 200RSpec lights...and you see what happened there with the pics. Lack of airflow. Fixed that issue, and just planted some stuff called "Guzzlers". Heavy indica I guess. Sposed to give a fella "Fractal Vision". We shall see.
Im sorry your first experience with indoors was that shitty 😔 but indoors growing is easier than outdoors once you get the hang of it. The problem was probably high humidity and heat in the tent due to insuficient or lack of airflow yes, thats the most common cause for botrytis to appear indoors. Do you have a thermohygrometer with a probe to set the probe on the top cannopy? You can also swap to the thermohygrometer sensor with a button or sometimes both show on the screen so you know the temperature of your upper canopy under the lights and the temperature of the tent, which is often not the same.
 
what's your humidity at in there? Temps?

ive never actually had bud rot indoors, and dont even keep track of temp and rh beyond the back of my hand. If your airflow and temps are close to ideal RH doesnt really matter all that much (to an extent) and vice versa. Are you in a basement? May want to start running a hepa filter in there too.
 
holy jeebus, what's your humidity at in there? Temps?

ive never actually had bud rot indoors, and dont even keep track of temp and rh beyond the back of my hand. Are you in a basement? May want to start running a hepa filter in there too.
Once you know, you know, but until then its good to have a thermohygrometer. I told you about my best friend already, I manage his grows. He got botrytis once and he had airflow in the tent but forgot that he also needs to have airflow in the lung room so he closed the door. Soon enough, he got botrytis. I asked him, was it hot when you entered the room? He said, yes moist and hot. I was like "I told you but now you know". There's so many things to consider being new... he forgot to ventilate his lung room.
 
Cobweb molds, and that looks like one, prob isnt, but looks like a predatory cobweb, are very aggressive, and will even kill and consume live tissues

I have had a predatory cobweb on one outdoor plant before. Some bud rot started to set in, then a predatory cobweb started eating the budrot, and when it finished with that it took out an entire afghani cola in about 2 humid days lol.

And tbh, even back in the day i just used a crappy little terrarium analog hygrometer, and never used a thermometer either. Broke teenager ftw.
 
Botrytis is fluffy like that when it gets serious too, on top of the bud rot you have all those fluffy clouds. Or maybe is another fungus coexisting with botrytis? The solution is the same though, good airflow, not too high temperatures, not too high humidity, specially not combined with heat.
 
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Nevermind I found this already, all this time I thought that fluffyness also came from the botrytis.
"Light gray to tan cobweb-like mold will develop on the infected plant parts if Botrytis cinerea is present."
 
Yeah. I got some outdoor again goin. Last years turned out pretty good. Started my indoor adventure as well. Got me a couple HLG 200RSpec lights...and you see what happened there with the pics. Lack of airflow. Fixed that issue, and just planted some stuff called "Guzzlers". Heavy indica I guess. Sposed to give a fella "Fractal Vision". We shall see.
Hell yeah dude! Like the keep it going attitude! glad you got the airflow fixed, thats a tough lesson and loss. I’d follow along to watch that guzzlers! : ) im always down for weed that’ll put me in coma 😂
 
"I have had a predatory cobweb on one outdoor plant before. Some bud rot started to set in, then a predatory cobweb started eating the budrot, and when it finished with that it took out an entire afghani cola in about 2 humid days lol."
🤦‍♂️ now you know why I dont read books anymore, you said it and I had to figure it out because I missed it.
 
Ive never had botrytis unless that cobweb was it. Sounds like botrytis is a predatory cobweb or something similar though to me then. Is a pretty generic term i use on the mycology side of things to describe a grey/white fuzzy aggressive mold that will kill and consume another fungus, then start consuming the substrate (in my case, plant material). When ive had bud rot its less aggressive then that one experience with that cobweb, It lurks and creeps and slow munches more then it aggressively devours.
 
Ive never had botrytis unless that cobweb was it. Sounds like botrytis is a predatory cobweb or something similar though to me then. Is a pretty generic term i use on the mycology side of things to describe a grey/white fuzzy aggressive mold that will kill and consume another fungus, then start consuming the substrate.
Its the other way around, the cobweb mold eats the botrytis, but you already know more than what I knew hahaha I had to search on google.
 
I think it just happens so fast that you barely have any time to see the bud rot before the cobweb mold appears. My friend left the door closed for 2 days, that was enough for botrytis with cobweb to appear at high temp and humidity.
 
Its the other way around, the cobweb mold eats the botrytis, but you already know more than what I knew hahaha I had to search on google.
i havent been in personal detail in long enough to remember exactly which all names are which lmao. Assuming botrytis is the common lurking bud rot then? Little dead leaf sticks out, and you look and notice half the inside of the flower is shriveled lol.
 
i havent been in personal detail in long enough to remember exactly which all names are which lmao. Assuming botrytis is the common lurking bud rot then? Little dead leaf sticks out, and you look and notice half the inside of the flower is shriveled lol.
Correct, botrytis is the fungus that causes bud rot. Can also affect leaves aswell yes and also yes to the inside of the buds being brown hahaha. Whenever I see that all of the bottom of a bud is strangely brown I know how its gonna be inside. Commercial weed can be sold with a bit of bud rot and many people wont even realize.
 
Correct, botrytis is the fungus that causes bud rot. Can also affect leaves aswell yes and also yes to the inside of the buds being brown hahaha. Whenever I see that all of the bottom of a bud is strangely brown I know how its gonna be inside. Commercial weed can be sold with a bit of bud rot and many people wont even realize.
i definitely have though lmao. I notice the dead aphids, neem smell and little bug poops on outdoor stuff too 🤣 🤣
 
I mean, I recently sold 50 grams of unnamed weed with a few buds with bud rot. Nothing serious, you could smoke it and maybe a puff was a bit off but if you dont know you dont realize. I had 100g of really good Runtz, 50g of very decent amnesia and 50g of that unnamed strain with a bit of bud rot. Guess which one sold the fastest cause it was cheaper...
 
Oh im not saying i would on that flower, i have no idea unless it happened, im just saying i have noticed the little greyy off areas on flowers before, and more lol.


If you are in a basement though OP, definitely get a hepa filter and up that airflow. Theres several nasty cobweb fungi spores that like to lurk in moist low airflow basements, and they are ripe and ready to take off on any fungi that grow on your plants (Or your cubie monotubs 🤣 🍄)
 
Oh im not saying i would on that flower, i have no idea unless it happened, im just saying i have noticed the little greyy off areas on flowers before, and more lol.


If you are in a basement though OP, definitely get a hepa filter and up that airflow. Theres several nasty cobweb fungi spores that like to lurk in moist low airflow basements, and they are ripe and ready to take off on any fungi that grow on your plants (Or your cubie monotubs 🤣 🍄)
Yeah for sure man, and even bad flushes when they clearly used synthetics cause its bitter. I can tell organic weed from non organic even when its properly flushed. Organic weed as far as I can tell with my senses has the earthy/hashy taste more pronounced, still doesnt mean it will be the predominant flavor but its always there. I guess it will change slightly depending on what brand you use too, I use organic ammendments and AN organic line.
 
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