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[MaryJane RottenCrotch]

I also just noticed your cucumber vines raised off the ground right next to your cannabis plants.

That is not the best idea. The strains of powdery mildew that infect cucumber and squash vines are the same strains that infect cannabis. (That white powdery looking stuff you probably already have on those cucumbers this late in the season)



when it comes to growing outdoors in ground. I live by KISS. It's a bit nuts how long it really took for that to sink in too. Was always trying to find the next best product to give my plants the next best edge.

But then came along some of the dankest flower ive ever smoked. Grown outside from goat shit.

I need to.clean the vines I have still, I already did some.today but my work injury has me working less in the garden , hence why the plants were still in the garden, haven't been myself lately

 

[GrowwBreeezy22]

I also just noticed your cucumber vines raised off the ground right next to your cannabis plants.

That is not the best idea. The strains of powdery mildew that infect cucumber and squash vines are the same strains that infect cannabis. (That white powdery looking stuff you probably already have on those cucumbers this late in the season)



when it comes to growing outdoors in ground. I live by KISS. It's a bit nuts how long it really took for that to sink in too. Was always trying to find the next best product to give my plants the next best edge.

But then came along some of the dankest flower ive ever smoked. Grown outside from goat shit.

A lot of great advice bro and I agree with your kiss method. Also just went and ripped out all of the cucumber vines a threw them. lol girls aren’t fans veggies anyway

 

[RootFarmer]

A lot of great advice bro and I agree with your kiss method. Also just went and ripped out all of the cucumber vines a threw them. lol girls aren’t fans veggies anyway

Keep an eye out for Cucumber beetles
They will be looking for a new food source. I ripped out the wild Cucumber vines here and the buggers have been chomping up everything. The spotted variety look kinda like ladybugs but don't be fooled.

 

[cpurola]

I also just noticed your cucumber vines raised off the ground right next to your cannabis plants.

That is not the best idea. The strains of powdery mildew that infect cucumber and squash vines are the same strains that infect cannabis. (That white powdery looking stuff you probably already have on those cucumbers this late in the season)

Update from MSU extension service says cucurbits are likely to have powdery mildew. (Michigan)
MSU Vegetable Crop Update

 

[RootFarmer]

Update from MSU extension service says cucurbits are likely to have powdery mildew. (Michigan)
MSU Vegetable Crop Update

And cucurbit leaf spot disease that resembles septoria.

 

[cpurola]

And cucurbit leaf spot disease that resembles septoria.

So much fun! (not)

 

[Rooke]

It’s every where!! It’s every where just got back from the garden doing bud worm killing if it stops raining for a few days I’ll spray btk I’ve squished them right where they live. It works some may be grossed out by it but if keeps raining what’s a guy to do? If I can refrain from spraying my gals due to all that lives out there l will be fine .

 

[Rooke]

Darn!!! This is when my ocd kicks in cuz I’m aware of what can happen at any time yet I can see the finish line been there so rewarding ok I’m done now wait I forgot to mention that we are smoking the 4 ft blue dream auto it’s dry enough to burn not flushed or cured Booya sativa feels great. I will grow this one again

 

[EternalSun]

“The Shiz” in bloom.

 

[AirHammer]

Your absolutely right I’m hooked I love it it’s relaxing most of the time but sometimes so stressful but I’m growing till I can’t for sure

Agreed but its mostly enjoyable imo.

Wet rainy / cool / windy weather can be stressy in full on bloom. Try to take everything in stride including growing.

At night away after the garden is all tended and doing its thing. To think you worked hard and benefited plants to produce big colas later is nice. Its relaxing to and away I suppose.

Or chilling in the yard with a cold drink watching the buds rocking with the wind. And thinking of making a nice fresh batch of aroma hash. Or bake some brownies or squish some rosin.

Heres to everyone reaping big bounties in their personal gaedens this fall

Its real nice to have a bunch of cured masons to keep you warm through winter. Although I'd rather be somewhere tropical near an ocean following the sun.

 

[AirHammer]

“The Shiz” in bloom. View attachment 2248206

Great structure. Shes a bushy beauty.

 

[Galgrows]

Blueberry Muffins and a WW x Purple Kush 2wks into flower

 

[shaganja]

Bad news. This morning I took out an lsd due to powdery mildew. I’ve been doctoring it for about a week. Three days ago many leaves dropped (stressed), and been losing leaves daily. I’ve battled PM before and been successful (those plants were further along), I know how much work it is, and unfortunately I’d rather not. Also the limbs were fragile, breaking off so easily. With PM on the stem too.
I have been reading posts about diatomaceous earth, and the use of silica.
How is the DE used? Is it sprinkled on the soil surrounding the plant?
And looking for silica recommendations. I was looking at

General Hydroponics Armor Si…​

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Simple hack for PM. Peroxide. Peroxide is h2o2. So an extra oxygen attached. An everyday spray of this along with drench, will kill the PM. Can't survive in oxygen rich atmosphere. I don't have the ratios on me, but it's an easy Google search. I can say it has worked for me, when I took in clones.

 

[RootFarmer]

A soil drench with H2O2 will kill your soil rhizobiome just like the shit on your leaves. Microbes produce essential compounds for plant resistence against biotic and abiotic stress and the plant's immune system, e.g. antibiotics, specialized antimicrobials, etc. Kill your soil and you weaken your plant, thereby increasing the impact of potential fungal infections. If you want to treat your soil, something with some Bacillus Amyloliquifaciens found in Bonide Revitalize/ or Botanicare Hydrogyard.

 

[AirHammer]

I threw everything at powder milder in past cases and nothing seemed to work.

I even put up a tent then fogged them with a sulfur burner for an hour at a time for a few days. That was expensive and futile

In the end I also culled the badly infected plants, its a difficult thing I know. My condolences go out for losing some. But that is better than ingesting that toxic nuisance when it invades our personal spaces outside.

The only thing that keeps PM in check in my experience is preventative measures like the silicate supplements starting from day 1.

And general organic practices throughout and healthy PH levels inside of 6.0 - 7.0.

PM is extremely stubborn once it takes up residence in plant fibers. Anything thats strong enough to eradicate it will take the stuff you want to remain alive and undamaged. You can kill the outer visible PM but it will remain inside the plant and surely become visible again in days. By the time its present its pretty hard or impossible to kill off without taking living plant tissue with it.

Not allowing that to happen by not giving it a chance opening is the only way to 100% stop PM $0.02

 

[EternalSun]

In the past, for PM, I have used neem oil,
h2o2 solution, and also
Milk solution. Eventually it worked and I had a great harvest with very good weed. But it was more work than I wanted. This was one of five LSD plants I grew this season, seed from 2021 harvest and seed from 2022 harvest.

Two ended up male, and the best looking of the five got PM. I still have two remaining females of this LSD, and they are both doing well. I’d rather devote my limited time to otherwise healthy plants in the end I always end up with more than enough. I hope pm is kind to all of you growers, and never infects your garden.

LSD plants remaining:

 

[shaganja]

A soil drench with H2O2 will kill your soil rhizobiome just like the shit on your leaves. Microbes produce essential compounds for plant resistence against biotic and abiotic stress and the plant's immune system, e.g. antibiotics, specialized antimicrobials, etc. Kill your soil and you weaken your plant, thereby increasing the impact of potential fungal infections. If you want to treat your soil, something with some Bacillus Amyloliquifaciens found in Bonide Revitalize/ or Botanicare Hydrogyard.

Never got that issue. But I was in pots at the time indoors. Thanks for info

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

I threw everything at powder milder in past cases and nothing seemed to work.

I even put up a tent then fogged them with a sulfur burner for an hour at a time for a few days. That was expensive and futile

In the end I also culled the badly infected plants, its a difficult thing I know. My condolences go out for losing some. But that is better than ingesting that toxic nuisance when it invades our personal spaces outside.

The only thing that keeps PM in check in my experience is preventative measures like the silicate supplements starting from day 1.

And general organic practices throughout and healthy PH levels inside of 6.0 - 7.0.

PM is extremely stubborn once it takes up residence in plant fibers. Anything thats strong enough to eradicate it will take the stuff you want to remain alive and undamaged. You can kill the outer visible PM but it will remain inside the plant and surely become visible again in days. By the time its present its pretty hard or impossible to kill off without taking living plant tissue with it.

Not allowing that to happen by not giving it a chance opening is the only way to 100% stop PM $0.02

i havent even seen powdery mildew on an outdoor cannabis plant since i started using citric acid solutions. Have never seen it come back once appeared and treated with citric acid too. I dont (per se) preventative treat with it. Using it when its dry creates phytoxicity. Light spraying right after good rain events. Never saw PM again. Ill spray some h202 in veg pretty frequently. but in flower ill use citric acid. Bud rot rates were cut to probably 10% what they were before i started using it as well. If you use citric acid properly, it will kill PM, and it will not come back. Do not use it during dry period. Only spray while a plant is already wet and you wont ever see any phytoxicty. Itll be left behind on the surface of the plant and inside the flowers both.

You can do a branch wash at harvest with slightly alkaline water and itll pull all the citric acid out of the flowers like a magnet and iron shavings with a few jostles. Does not impact taste or flavor of the buds at all. Doesn't even seem to impact bho extracts or hash either. Not detectably anyway. The commercial facility i worked at in KC used a citric acid product in bulk from growers ally in their greenhouses. Is where i found out about it, and learned how to properly use it. They bought that growers ally stuff by the rain-storage sized bulk container. Was like 10 grand a pop for a simple citric acid solution in bulk (Growers ally be makin BANK from the commercial world )

That being said, im probably not going to do anything PM or rot prevention to my outdoor patch this year outside shaking the branches after a rain. Ill be doing pretty large yearly outdoor grows from now on, and id like to know what phenotypes i have are most naturally resistant to PM and rot because ill be doing some breeding over winter/next few years. Sometimes youll have a plant totally covered, right next to one that it seems like the PM doesnt even notice.

Also worth noting, im a sativa guy, and the indicas tend to be far far far more naturally susceptible to these things. My sativas look like they enjoy the rain, my indicas look like wet poodles in it.

The two single biggest "AHA" moments ive had growing plants outdoors:

Goat shit. (the stuff weve been fertlizing our cannabis with for thousands of years continuously.)

*Properly applied* citric acid.

YMMV

 

[Rooke]

Heya bro glad to see you’re still hanging out here thanks for your help as always. So in the past I have had pm show up on my outdoor gals right about now it’s 16c and raining a bit. That’s the recipe for it to start I believe. Anyways I bought this awhile ago in case I needed it not knowing what it was made of I just saw ph down would I be able to use it as a foliar spray on pm I’ve used potassium bicarbonate in the past but it has never worked totally. What mix do you think I should use it doesn’t have any info except the website I’ll check it out and see what’s there here’s some pics of the bottle

 

[Rooke]

It says to reduce the ph of your feed at 1 mil per gallon. Would that suffice for a foliar spray mix or would you just mix with my well water to achieve say 6.5?