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[Asmodeus]

Mornin yall, hope everyone is good! Back to the grind.. Been busy as shit lately, still pulling trees off houses from the tornado a couple weeks ago, and calls still coming in.

 

[jadins_journey]

So happy you tried it! *Everyone* should have some of this stuff in their toolbox. I keep pushing it on everyone like a crack dealer from the 80s, but not everyone listens, ending up with burnt plants from alcohol and spider mites that keep coming back

Seriously if folks knew how well that shit really works they'd just be like "spider mites? Who cares those are easy to get rid of". Instead of folks accusing folks of things and folks turning into little rats... But that's another story..

Well I took your advice @Deadstill and bought a bottle (<$20). I've thanked you before but I'll do it again. Heavy infestations may take a 2nd dose 3 days apart but catch those critters early and it's one and done.

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

Trying to fend off some bugs .

50-50 water ISO 45 mins before lights out.

Critique welcome

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Be very careful usinf alcohol on cannabis leaves. About 2 in 10 plants will burn all to hell after more then 1 treatment and she damage will never heal either. I strongly recommend avoiding alcohol entirely.


If you wanna see what even 1part alcohol 5 part water can do to some plants, my Tammy plants can show you lol. And I did that specifically so I can have my own example to show some of the next time alcohol spraying came back up. Actually made the example for @Rama777

You can use alcohol in a pinch, but always rest the same leaf of a plant twice letting dry in between before you use it on the whole plant. Always. More often than not you'll be totally fine. When it's not totally fine you will do major unrepairable damage to a plant. Major. Humid conditions make it far more likely to happen too.

Alcohol works for bugs and stuff. But I personally strongly recommend against it for cannabis specifically.

Will be back in just a bit with a pic lol. I alcohol'd some lower less.important leaves out at the patch a couple weeks ago with 50% iso diluted to 20, hell on sensitive ones 10% alcohol on their surface too long will damage them visibly after some time, figured I'd have at least some damage from it. Was not wrong. Pics when I get back up from the patch after my coffee lol

P.s. even plants that look fine have been damaged by the alcohol, it's a partially polar solvent, it's actually chemically impossible for it to not to damage to a cannabis plant to some degree, even if it's not visible.

If you plant is still in veg, you can use pyrethrin with absolutely zero negative side effects on the plant, or you. Pretty much everything eggs and all will be dead as a door ail 5 mins after treating eggs included. It's too water insoluble to rapidly go through skin. And being around it in a grow tent is about as dangerous as handling chrysanthemums and marigolds lol.

 

[TreeBee]

G'morning!

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

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@Rama777


One of the results of using alcohol is the death of cystolithic trichomes too. Which hugely increases your chances of developing powdery mildew at least outside lol. Dead sister Olympic tri comes at one of the biggest triggering factors for powdery mildew and molds at least outside that I know of. That's why cucumbers and stuff are so susceptible as the season goes on. The number of dead cystolithic trichomes


Always test and double check individual leaves before you treat an entire plant with alcohol, regardless of phenotype, or even species. A significant portion of a plant's leaf surface material is actually straight up soluble in alcohol lol.

 

[Deadstill]

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@Rama777


One of the results of using alcohol is the death of cystolithic trichomes too. Which hugely increases your chances of developing powdery mildew at least outside lol. Dead sister Olympic tri comes at one of the biggest triggering factors for powdery mildew and molds at least outside that I know of. That's why cucumbers and stuff are so susceptible as the season goes on. The number of dead cystolithic trichomes


Always test and double check individual leaves before you treat an entire plant with alcohol, regardless of phenotype, or even species lol.

Yeah not a fan of using alcohol on plants - at all. I mean it can help keep fusarium at bay on clones but that's about the extent of my use for alcohol. Not even for cleaning grow rooms. Bleach all the way, only thing that will kill viri, as well.

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

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Yeah not a fan of using alcohol on plants - at all. I mean it can help keep fusarium at bay on clones but that's about the extent of my use for alcohol. Not even for cleaning grow rooms. Bleach all the way, only thing that will kill viri, as well.

I fixed the video upload. There was a main video and quick follow up. Accidentally only posted the follow up lol


I sacrificed a few lower fan leaves because i have to room to wiggle. Just to make a video to show people intending on using it, because of how often alcohol gets recommended here for mites. I've seen it recommended for actively flowering cannabis plants too 0.o

Even if the plant shows no visible signs of damage, alcohol has damaged it at the microscopic/cellular level. There's no way it hasn't. Impossible. It's a polarized solvent. And i absolutely have enough direct knowledge of the chemistry goin on here, to state this as fact with zero doubts at all. This is not an argument with two sides and some wishy-washy information. This is simply a fact.

 

[TheGoldenRoad]

Can't believe the price of batteries today. Had to replace the one in my work truck a few years ago $200+ WTF?

I had to replace one earlier this year and the words that burned like fire in my mouth when it came out to $180.00....

Be very careful usinf alcohol on cannabis leaves. About 2 in 10 plants will burn all to hell after more then 1 treatment and she damage will never heal either. I strongly recommend avoiding alcohol entirely.


If you wanna see what even 1part alcohol 5 part water can do to some plants, my Tammy plants can show you lol. And I did that specifically so I can have my own example to show some of the next time alcohol spraying came back up. Actually made the example for @Rama777

You can use alcohol in a pinch, but always rest the same leaf of a plant twice letting dry in between before you use it on the whole plant. Always. More often than not you'll be totally fine. When it's not totally fine you will do major unrepairable damage to a plant. Major. Humid conditions make it far more likely to happen too.

Alcohol works for bugs and stuff. But I personally strongly recommend against it for cannabis specifically.

Will be back in just a bit with a pic lol. I alcohol'd some lower less.important leaves out at the patch a couple weeks ago with 50% iso diluted to 20, hell on sensitive ones 10% alcohol on their surface too long will damage them visibly after some time, figured I'd have at least some damage from it. Was not wrong. Pics when I get back up from the patch after my coffee lol

P.s. even plants that look fine have been damaged by the alcohol, it's a partially polar solvent, it's actually chemically impossible for it to not to damage to a cannabis plant to some degree, even if it's not visible.

If you plant is still in veg, you can use pyrethrin with absolutely zero negative side effects on the plant, or you. Pretty much everything eggs and all will be dead as a door ail 5 mins after treating eggs included. It's too water insoluble to rapidly go through skin. And being around it in a grow tent is about as dangerous as handling chrysanthemums and marigolds lol.

The only time I use alcohol is cleaning lights and fans between cycles when necessary. Stuffs a killer for plants.

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

I had to replace one earlier this year and the words that burned like fire in my mouth when it came out to $180.00....

The only time I use alcohol is cleaning lights and fans between cycles when necessary. Stuffs a killer for plants.

the 20ah lithium pack in my ebike runs about $400 lmao. It's more expensive then the controller and drivetrain setup, and the only part thats not practically indestructible with proper maintenance. lol.

Really im driving around every where i go with a small bomb 6 inches from by scrotum, if i wreck and puncture that battery pack, i can kiss my balls and all my leg skin goodbye lmao.

 

[PlumberSoCal2]

 

[PlumberSoCal2]

the 20ah lithium pack in my ebike runs about $400 lmao. It's more expensive then the controller and drivetrain setup, and the only part thats not practically indestructible with proper maintenance. lol.

Really im driving around every where i go with a small bomb 6 inches from by scrotum, if i wreck and puncture that battery pack, i can kiss my balls and all my leg skin goodbye lmao.

Wife and I spent a week in Big Bear and rented a couple ebikes. Suckers zoomed about 20mph. We had a blast but after reading that I may never get on one again

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

Wife and I spent a week in Big Bear and rented a couple ebikes. Suckers zoomed about 20mph. We had a blast but after reading that I may never get on one again

Im using name brand samsung cells. Should be pretty gravy. It would be near impossible to wreck it and puncture the battery, but not completely impossible lol

The premanufactured ebikes tend to use cheap china garbage. I put the best quality battery i could afford together for my bike lmao. It is inside a cheap chinese case though lmao.


If i kick it in the highest gears and pedal with it, mine can do about 45mph lol. is 1500 watts 48v. But there's a governor switch to limit it to 750w and 28mph so i dont end up in jail lmao.

Bit of a frankenstein monster. But it'll put most premanufactured ebikes that cost a whole lot more to shame quality and reliability wise. It's def not as pretty though.

 

[BB22]

Trying to fend off some bugs .

50-50 water ISO 45 mins before lights out.

Critique welcome

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[cannafarmer420]

What is the most potent strain you have grown and from what breeder?
Mine is space panda aka Oreoz from atlas seeds so far, indoor with living soil

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

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it'll prob be 2-3 days of light exposure before all damage, if there was any, becomes very visible. And even if there isn;t any visible, it's still there lol. Keep an eye on the serrated margins, and tissue near the tips of the leaf fingers. Only the gnarliest spots of pooled alcohol will be visibly necrotic after 24 hrs or so.

If you feel the texture of an "undamaged" alcohol exposed leaf before and after treatment, you wont consider it undamaged anymore either. Its literally oblates the leaf's cystolithic trichomes genocide style.

Im def not saying you've made a major mistake, but i am def saying do not spray those plants again with alcohol any time soon. You *will* end up regretting it lol.



The reason it takes time and light exposure to show alcohol damage, is because the non polar saps, and cystolithic trichome compounds, which are alcohol soluble, get damaged and removed. The purose of these trichomes and compounds, and surface resins and tannins, is to protect the plant's leaves from the damaging effects of solar/UV radiation. It's not technically the alcohol that kills the tissue, its the light. The alcohol damages/removes the leaf's protection against exposure damage.

 

[PlumberSoCal2]

What is the most potent strain you have grown and from what breeder?
Mine is space panda aka Oreoz from atlas seeds so far, indoor with living soil

I think almost all have been strong but Sarsaparilla (Freak Genitics) has been the highest THC and sure made good caps. I use to grow a Brutis OG x Chemdog that was strong but burned out on it as it's all I grew and smoked for a few years besides dispensary buys. The Granddaddy Purple and the Blueberry Hash Plant never gets old but since I'm growing several strains all the time now I always have a choice.

I haven't found any autos very strong and the high doesn't seem to last as long as regs.

 

[PlumberSoCal2]

So my wife posts this on fb

and I'm like WTF? Taco WEEK started Yesterday

So she responds with...
Normal people have taco Tuesday. Let's just say we're NOT normal. We only do taco week!!!!

 

[Tumbleweed375]

Well I took your advice @Deadstill and bought a bottle (<$20). I've thanked you before but I'll do it again. Heavy infestations may take a 2nd dose 3 days apart but catch those critters early and it's one and done.

So happy you tried it! *Everyone* should have some of this stuff in their toolbox. I keep pushing it on everyone like a crack dealer from the 80s, but not everyone listens, ending up with burnt plants from alcohol and spider mites that keep coming back

Seriously if folks knew how well that shit really works they'd just be like "spider mites? Who cares those are easy to get rid of". Instead of folks accusing folks of things and folks turning into little rats... But that's another story..

Both of you were the ones that cinched my decision.

I appreciate the advice! I was infested BAD. All signs of critters were gone after the second dose.. aside from my plants looking horrific from the damage already done.

I have it in my IPM schedule now.

 

[TheGoldenRoad]

What is the most potent strain you have grown and from what breeder?
Mine is space panda aka Oreoz from atlas seeds so far, indoor with living soil

Super Boof seeds that I was given last summer from a friend in Mendocino. No idea who the breeder was but it was the first time I got lost in my own backyard

 

[PlumberSoCal2]