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[Mikedin]

Well finally lol

 

[BearWater]

Mornin' mo-fo's!

How's everyone this weekend? I'm doin' alright. Much better with that old tooth outta my mouth. Of course now my mouth feels weird but it's better than that pain I was dealing with.

They (dentist) wants me to go back for a deep cleaning that they will probably have to put me under to do. I'm betting that's where 95% of my stomach/belly issues have been coming from, it all starts at the mouth. Not looking forward to it, though. Kind of like the old truck that the only thing holding it together is the rust? That's how I feel about my teeth

At any rate. I got a seedling that topped itself I'll have to share a pic of that a little later, even though it breaks my picture rule

Just a strange little mutant seedling. It topped itself and just sat there for 2 weeks not doing shit, then I looked at her this morning and all of a sudden she's a Y lmao one of the Nanan Bouclou reg seeds.

Glad you’re feeling a bit better! Mouth pain SUCKS!!!! Absolutely correct with dental health stemming to the rest of the body health!! (Not a Dr. LOL).

 

[Mikedin]

Mines 17 and ridiculous.
Alls I have to say, has permit,
Doesn’t want to drive.

When I was a strapping young lad, that was everything.

I’ll never get it.

And this generation also won’t go out of the way to pick each other up for things, bc of things being too far.
Dafuq? Insane. Give us a ride, we’d be in Timbuktu 3 days later,

Hell yeah cars were life where I lived, 30 minute drive to a city, a country store was 15 minutes by car we used to have to walk everywhere or wide out bikes / 4 wheelers etc

Having a car was like freedom haha

I love the country haha

 

[Mikedin]

Mornin' mo-fo's!

How's everyone this weekend? I'm doin' alright. Much better with that old tooth outta my mouth. Of course now my mouth feels weird but it's better than that pain I was dealing with.

They (dentist) wants me to go back for a deep cleaning that they will probably have to put me under to do. I'm betting that's where 95% of my stomach/belly issues have been coming from, it all starts at the mouth. Not looking forward to it, though. Kind of like the old truck that the only thing holding it together is the rust? That's how I feel about my teeth

At any rate. I got a seedling that topped itself I'll have to share a pic of that a little later, even though it breaks my picture rule

Just a strange little mutant seedling. It topped itself and just sat there for 2 weeks not doing shit, then I looked at her this morning and all of a sudden she's a Y lmao one of the Nanan Bouclou reg seeds.

Yeah man tooth issues suck, headaches, earaches, pain, your nerves get fucked up and affect your body all over the place, I hate teeth issues hopefully you get em resolved

 

[Mikedin]

Wife went on another baking spree lol

 

[Rama777]

I can say it was a large improvement while running organic to move up from 5’s to 12’s, way more root space availabe, more microbes in the soil expand that rhizosphere microbiology, I left the fine roots in the soil, I’ll let them break down and let the microbes at em through the grow like a constant food source on top of the amendments, went really heavy this time we’ll see how the plant does and if I plan to rerun the same mix again next time or replace

When you say you left the fine roots in the soil, are you taking about reusing the soil on a subsequent run? I assume that’s what you mean but not sure..

Also what specific improvements did you notice from jumping up the volume from 5 to 12 gallons?

 

[Tumbleweed375]

Hardware store, 4x garden stakes, fencing department or shelving dept look for a screen or fencing in the garden wire fencing for a 3x3 grid, flatten out, cut to size, zip tie to garden stakes at preferred height (stakes inside the pot edge or strapped to sides of bucket)

I'm now picturing one of those Ozukuri setups they build for chrysanthemums. Imagine one of these setups with a big cali-blues mother outdoors

 

[Deadstill]

Ok against my rules but here's that pic - Dear DEA - please don't raid me again, it's just one plant, I swear

Kind of a gnarly lookin little teenage mutant Nanan Bouclou

I knew she was going to do some funky shit right off the bat - but in my experience, plants like this that take forever and a day to start growing, once they do, they usually explode. The other seedling I planted at the same time, is like 5x this size but I bet this one ends up bigger. We'll see!

 

[Rama777]

I foliar fed some plants with silica that are in veg yesterday. When I opened the tent today I was immediately struck by how much darker the green was of the newer growth.

Like how the leaves take some time to fill up with chlorophyll (@Thatoneguyyouknow_ may have something to say about that statement..) was hastened dramatically.

I assume more photosynthesis potential was therefore created.

Correlation isn’t always causation but..gonna keep foliar feeding silica weekly after seeing that..

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

She is! They do awesome with a really deep dry back she seems to love it! Same with the Frostette the more you let them dry back the healthier they look.


She was drying back once a day fully in that 1/3 gallon haha but I think roots really love that I tend to wait till I can pick up the 12 gal pot with one hand and almost be effortless before I water, in full flower they’ll empty those 12 gallon pots in 24-36 hours max, once those roots fill the out they start searching for any more available space that may have a drop of moisture,

well i know about the wet dry cycle, the faster you can make that turn around happen the faster the plants will grow. My mixes are usually close to 40% perlite lol.. I just meant keeping up with it as often as you arent home.


I cant let my cali blues pheno specifically dry out. The clones are better but this particular pheno is very sensitive to drought, she wants to stay moist for whatever reason. She loves it though. Never even droops after heavy watering or feeding at all. not even a little bit. No LED sensitivity either on her. She just wants her roots to stay wet. Is very strange for a cannabis plant. If i had my pheno bound up like that one that small, id have to water her 3-5x a day lmao.

 

[Rama777]

well i know about the wet dry cycle, the faster you can make that turn around happen the faster the plants will grow. My mixes are usually close to 40% perlite lol.. I just meant keeping up with it as often as you arent home.


I cant let my cali blues pheno specifically dry out. The clones are better but this particular pheno is very sensitive to drought, she wants to stay moist for whatever reason. She loves it though. Never even droops after heavy watering or feeding at all. not even a little bit. No LED sensitivity either on her. She just wants her roots to stay wet. Is very strange for a cannabis plant.

You think the same holds true in flowering or mostly is that for veg? Does a quicker drying plant in flower yield more?

 

[Deadstill]

I foliar fed some plants that are in veg yesterday. When I opened the tent today I was immediately struck by how much darker the green was of the newer growth.

Like how the leaves take some time to fill up with chlorophyll (@Thatoneguyyouknow_ may have something to say about that statement..) was hastened dramatically.

I assume more photosynthesis potential was therefore created.

Correlation isn’t always causation but..gonna keep foliar feeding silica weekly after seeing that..

I am a huge proponent of foliar feeding. That's how about 99% of commercial farms fertilize, actually. It's definitely the fastest way to see results if done correctly. For instance, next time you see a plant lacking in magnesium, try foliar feeding with epsom salt. You'll be blown away

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

You think the same holds true in flowering or mostly is that for veg? Does a quicker drying plant in flower yield more?

Yes it does lol.


This may not quite apply to many 100% organic methods 1 for 1 though.

 

[Rama777]

I am a huge proponent of foliar feeding. That's how about 99% of commercial farms fertilize, actually. It's definitely the fastest way to see results if done correctly. For instance, next time you see a plant lacking in magnesium, try foliar feeding with epsom salt. You'll be blown away

I hear that man. I’m a commercial organic produce farmer and besides dry meal additions at bed flip time, all the fertilizing I do is foliar based. Phosphorous is the only thing tricky. If I’m mildly deficient I just roll with it. If it’s more serious for whatever reason that I will soil drench with Neptunes fish.

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

I foliar fed some plants that are in veg yesterday. When I opened the tent today I was immediately struck by how much darker the green was of the newer growth.

Like how the leaves take some time to fill up with chlorophyll (@Thatoneguyyouknow_ may have something to say about that statement..) was hastened dramatically.

I assume more photosynthesis potential was therefore created.

Correlation isn’t always causation but..gonna keep foliar feeding silica weekly after seeing that..

i usually only foliar feed if theres a mobile nutrient deficiency of some kind (because it just clears it up so fast) and to keep clones from looking so sad by the time they root.


There is def a happy medium with color, a plant can have more nitrogen then ideal and still not show signs of burn through flower and it still hurt end yield just a touch. But it can be very easy to accidentally over do nitrogen in a foliar feed. The leaves can pull most forms of nitrogen, especially nitrate based nitrogen pretty much instantly from foliar feeding

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

@Rama777

My point break plant is a good example of too much nitrogen without causing actual burn or anything rn.

Giving em all 2-5-4 rn but I'll prob back this one off to no nitrogen, thinking the compost and pellet feed in the soil is more then plenty for her going into flower. She has the largest root zone and freshest soil.

The dark green is creeping into the calyxes, and darkening the lime green freshest growth, once i see that i know im one N mistep away from N toxicity. If that freshest growth goes to close in color to the older growth, the plant will prob stall and go into N tox. You can ride the line a little hard and get interesting results with potency, terps (smell wise) and kief production (Wax and hash pulls), but its very easy to go a little too far and is usually always detrimental to flavor and necessary cure times for the whole flowers. And with N specifically, pushing it in flower can be pretty detrimental yield wise too as far as dry flowers are concerned, even if no burn or stalling. YMMV with different plants. You can throw heaps of N at a gelato or an afghan in flower and itll probably do just fine. If you did that to one of my peaceblasters indoors, youll probably kill it eventually lmao. This point break cbg looks like she's going to be pretty N sensitive too, but she is a 33% wild hemp plant with lot's of lank to her lookin like. So that's normal.

This has been one of my rambles.

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

She's in the back right. Canopy shows what I mean by she's a little too dark for my liking, even under the lights in a pic you can see it. She's slowing down a little too from it.

I don't wanna try pushing any of these plants too hard yet. I just want expression examples of the flower.

This has been one of my rambles continued.

 

[Captspaulding]

It may go into drought real easy, but it also doesn't have that LED magnesium processing sensitivity some of them have. And it's gonna look a lot lot prettier through flower because of it.

Def won't be letting this clone go any time soon, but I'll also be hunting some more of them.


I love this plant though IDC one bit it drought stresses easily. Prob won't be the one I put outside next season though.

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The blue dream is becoming more and more visible as she flowers too. Im almost expecting that clothy/textile/oldschool texture to the flowers because of it now. Haven't seen that flower texture in person since i was choosing a blue dream male to bring into the peaceblaster lineage. I was actually after that flower texture, but it never translated through the male.


If i bring in a blue dream lineage again now, 2 gens on, im thinking it'll make the blue dream pop a little bit more in the following generations with a hint of stability in the cross phenos in the direction of the Blue dream genotype.

Fucking get it homie!!!
The blue dream I used was stout af.

 

[Mikedin]

When you say you left the fine roots in the soil, are you taking about reusing the soil on a subsequent run? I assume that’s what you mean but not sure..

Also what specific improvements did you notice from jumping up the volume from 5 to 12 gallons?

Yes left rh em in and amended like I showed in that pic with my organics then broke up any clumps made sure roots weren’t in any small balls, then put the Frostette mother right into it back into a 12 gallon pot and into veg for the next 2.5-3 weeks

I found I was chasing defs, I also like planting to final pot and mixing in flower neuts 2 weeks before flip, they have enough time to begin stretching into the new soil and they finish reaching out while in flower stretch, i think it’s because they aren’t fully rooted into the new soil and amendments and they slowly build into it through flower, so there’s always new soil the roots are reaching into, my plants exploded last time in flower it’s like you can see when they pump into those new pockets of soil

 

[Captspaulding]

Well finally lol

That trim bin will be the last bin you buy. It’s rad.