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Bud Rot is Killing Me!

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Bud Rot is Killing Me!

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#61
Cape1 said:
I've done everything possible to prevent Bud Rot outdoors. Sprayed either Dr. Zymes or Mammouth Cannncontrol every week, try to shake plants after a rain, pruned to make sure light and air penetrate. Still, at this point, I am not cutting off at least 1 Bud every day. I know that I'm not quite at the ideal place to chop these plants. The Trichomes are a bit cloudy, some red hairs, even a few amber Trichomes, but they are only at around week 7 or 8 on a strain that typically takes 9 to 11. I'm wondering if it makes sense to just chop them.

What do you guys think? Is it normal to be chopping of Bud Rot on a regular basis on an outdoor grow? Should I hang in there and try to squeeze a couple of more weeks or cut my losses and settle for something less than ideal?
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Sometimes ill carve out the rot section and keep going if its only a small piece or really needs more time to flower. Or if its close enough to the end ill just harvest. But seems (to me) like the big buds just rot eventually - even with good air flow and low humidity in my tent, its something i have to watch for. But i wouldnt expect it on smaller buds unless the plant were shaded or covered somehow.
Tough call - would you rather have a little bit of good weed or a lot of bad weed?
 
#62
Cape1 said:
Bud Rot continues. Went out there today and clipped about a good once of weed and even found a couple of Caterpillars. Sprayed with Dr. ZYmes last night. I may spray them every few days at this point in the hope of at least slowing it down.

Do you think it's ok to keep a non infected section of a bud? I took off two really good size buds that had rot at the bottom. Took off the rot and then inspected the rest of the bud, right to the stem and they looked clean. For now, I hung them to dry in the basement. I did this not so much to keep every spec of weed; but, I figured it would be good to dry the shit out and see if it's any good.
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No one’s talking about BT. You are in an area were moths are laying eggs all over your buds. The bud rot is from caterpillars living and eating your entire harvest. BT can stop the larva if they are exposed to it and it’ll wash away and is completely harmless to us. Just soak your entire plant down with a sprayer every other day for a week. The cats will crawl out of the buds, drop and die. Pick out any damaged and dying material but know your whole harvest is probably full of caterpillar poop and other nasties. If there’s enough to salvage I’d consider a good bud wash before drying.
 
#64
Cape1 said:
What is BT?
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baccilus thuringiensis

Bacillus thuringiensis (Bt) is a group of soil microbes that are used to control certain insect pests. Each type of Bt makes a unique protein that is toxic to some insects, but not all. Some plants, such as corn, have been genetically engineered to protect themselves by making their own Bt proteins.
 
#65
juliando said:
Sometimes ill carve out the rot section and keep going if its only a small piece or really needs more time to flower. Or if its close enough to the end ill just harvest. But seems (to me) like the big buds just rot eventually - even with good air flow and low humidity in my tent, its something i have to watch for. But i wouldnt expect it on smaller buds unless the plant were shaded or covered somehow.
Tough call - would you rather have a little bit of good weed or a lot of bad weed?
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I hear you on that. I have so much weed out there right now that I'm not worried about it anymore. I was looking over the garden today, and I'm honestly wondering where I'm even going to dry all this shit! I literally have a garden that is 20' x 10' full of Colas (various sizes) at this point. If I were to lose half of it, I wouldn't shed a tear. Even half of it would be waaaay more than I'll ever smoke before it goes to shit.
 
#66
HerbalEdu said:
baccilus thuringiensis

Bacillus thuringiensis (Bt) is a group of soil microbes that are used to control certain insect pests. Each type of Bt makes a unique protein that is toxic to some insects, but not all. Some plants, such as corn, have been genetically engineered to protect themselves by making their own Bt proteins.
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Will BT harm the plants at all?
 
#67
HerbalEdu said:
baccilus thuringiensis

Bacillus thuringiensis (Bt) is a group of soil microbes that are used to control certain insect pests. Each type of Bt makes a unique protein that is toxic to some insects, but not all. Some plants, such as corn, have been genetically engineered to protect themselves by making their own Bt proteins.
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Good to know.
 
#68
Cape1 said:
Will BT harm the plants at all?
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Can Bt be sprayed on plants?

You can spray your plants every 7-10 days, for as long as your insect problem persists. In its mixed state, BT will only last for a few days, so only mix as much as you need. Adding a few drops of dish soap can help with mixing and adhering to leaf surfaces. Do not mix BT with substances with a high pH (alkaline).

What are the disadvantages of Bacillus thuringiensis?

Disadvantages. Bt, when applied in spray or liquid form, is susceptible to degradation by sunlight. Most formulations persist on foliage less than a week following application. Some of the newer strains developed for leaf beetle control become ineffective in about 24 hours.

How to use Bt for plants?

How should B.t. be applied?
  1. Choose the right product, i.e. the proper strain, of B.t. for the insect to be controlled.
  2. Avoid high pH water when mixing B.t. sprays since high pH can reduce effectiveness.
  3. Use B.t. spray within 12 hours of mixing.
  4. Time applications to coincide with most vulnerable life stage of pest.
 
#69
Cape1 said:
I hear you on that. I have so much weed out there right now that I'm not worried about it anymore. I was looking over the garden today, and I'm honestly wondering where I'm even going to dry all this shit! I literally have a garden that is 20' x 10' full of Colas (various sizes) at this point. If I were to lose half of it, I wouldn't shed a tear. Even half of it would be waaaay more than I'll ever smoke before it goes to shit.
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I spend hrs and hrs just cleaning and drying 6 plants. You got some real first world problems!
 
#70
Yeah, BT works to control cats somewhat! I don’t think it does anything for non-cat related, rot, mold, and mildew! You need a pretty good size war bag if you’re stuck growing in those areas!
 
#71
I dont love treating with any products while the buds are fully grown - just makes me nervous (i dont have any scientific evidence) but sometimes ill have to dose for spider mites (mostly in the tent) with some Arber bio insecticide. I just soak the dirt, I dont spray the buds - breaks up the life cycle of the mites.
But they do make a bio fungicide too if that turns out to be the issue.
 
#72
Cape1 said:
I've done everything possible to prevent Bud Rot outdoors. Sprayed either Dr. Zymes or Mammouth Cannncontrol every week, try to shake plants after a rain, pruned to make sure light and air penetrate. Still, at this point, I am not cutting off at least 1 Bud every day. I know that I'm not quite at the ideal place to chop these plants. The Trichomes are a bit cloudy, some red hairs, even a few amber Trichomes, but they are only at around week 7 or 8 on a strain that typically takes 9 to 11. I'm wondering if it makes sense to just chop them.

What do you guys think? Is it normal to be chopping of Bud Rot on a regular basis on an outdoor grow? Should I hang in there and try to squeeze a couple of more weeks or cut my losses and settle for something less than ideal?
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Are you sure it's mold? Kind of early for rot. Caterpillar damage is often the culprit when guys blame fungus. If you shake a plant on a dry day and see little white bugs fly off of the plant you have Caterpillars. If so arber insecticide did the job for me
 
#74
RealFarmer said:
Are you sure it's mold? Kind of early for rot. Caterpillar damage is often the culprit when guys blame fungus. If you shake a plant on a dry day and see little white bugs fly off of the plant you have Caterpillars. If so arber insecticide did the job for me
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It looks like mold. Greyish/dark dead sections that easily separate from the rest of the Bud. I have seen Cat's but only 3 so far. Maybe I'll go take a closer look.
 
#75
Cape1 said:
It looks like mold. Greyish/dark dead sections that easily separate from the rest of the Bud. I have seen Cat's but only 3 so far. Maybe I'll go take a closer look.
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Those litter buggers will crawl into the center of a bud and kill sections of bud right at the stem. If you pull that piece of rotten bud off you will see little eggs. They look like sand kind of. Good luck my friend. Hope you figure it out and get it under control whatever it is.
 
#76
I'm experiencing a huge catipillar problem on 2 of my 4 plants. The damage will look like grey rot if it's left on the bud and not removed quickly. If you found 3 i assure you there are 20 more you've not found on 1 plant and yours are much bigger than mine.
It's a big job as you've found out, spraying at least 2xwk with BT and inspections daily not just a minute on each plant but at least 10min looking at each branch throughly. That's why i only grow what i can handle. I don't mean to sound harsh it's the only way to have very healthy productive grows and it makes me feel better if i've done all i can but i can't control what nature does or weather.
 
#77
Cape1 said:
I've done everything possible to prevent Bud Rot outdoors. Sprayed either Dr. Zymes or Mammouth Cannncontrol every week, try to shake plants after a rain, pruned to make sure light and air penetrate. Still, at this point, I am not cutting off at least 1 Bud every day. I know that I'm not quite at the ideal place to chop these plants. The Trichomes are a bit cloudy, some red hairs, even a few amber Trichomes, but they are only at around week 7 or 8 on a strain that typically takes 9 to 11. I'm wondering if it makes sense to just chop them.

What do you guys think? Is it normal to be chopping of Bud Rot on a regular basis on an outdoor grow? Should I hang in there and try to squeeze a couple of more weeks or cut my losses and settle for something less than ideal?
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You need a different strain and/or breeder, I go through it every year. You'll have plants sick AF and right next to them the other plant will be fine it's 90% genetics ✌️
 
#80
SnoopingAsUsualI said:
I've probably missed most of the conversation, did you guys managed to figure out what was the reason for the bud rot?
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I'm speculating but my guess is the combination of weather and strain. I have 6 Maui Wowie plant, and I've been cutting off moldy buds on either of them almost daily. I have 6 Fritter Glitter from Exotic Genetics (80% Indica), and I haven't had a single issue. Now, to be fair, the MW is further along in flower. The climate here this summer has ranged from very hot and humid (90's and 70+% RH), to low 60's and wet, to hot and dry. It's all over the place. My guess is that if this is a true Hawaiian strain, it probably ain't diggin this weather.
 
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