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HELP! Hot Soil or Lack of Nutrients??

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HELP! Hot Soil or Lack of Nutrients??

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Usually manganese is not high enough to even be mentioned but it can be the case that his water tested relatively high for manganese. Still if its manganese and not magnessium, I doubt there's a lot.
Nice to see the numbers from his test posted. Don't need the test it self posted just numbers...alkalinity is what I need to further evaluate this issue...could be junk water?

Temps are a bit low as well....70! Aim for 75 78ish

Temp has to do with nute absorption as well..ph too
 
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Not since they were seedlings




I used distilled for three or four waterings before switching to my tap as you can see the well water we have is pretty rough
700ppm have you had it tested? It would be interesting to see 👀 what that ppm is.
 
Not since they were seedlings




I used distilled for three or four waterings before switching to my tap as you can see the well water we have is pretty rough
Now you can have seasonal swings in well that could answer of you just have something Down there that seeps manganese deficient water flow through the earth,

So do these look familiar?
These cases are worse, but I see some stark similarities, it caused by too high rh at plant height. Also does the main stalk taper to a smaller stalk anywhere? This summer has been brutal too….that medium I very saturated.

This leads to full blown fusarium. You may want to start checking out kickass fungal stuff x
 

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Any stem purpling? Purple stems this yellowing and 70 degree temps might be P deficiency...I'll stay tuned..
 
Nice to see the numbers from his test posted. Don't need the test it self posted just numbers...alkalinity is what I need to further evaluate this issue...could be junk water?

Temps are a bit low as well....70! Aim for 75 78ish

Temp has to do with nute absorption as well..ph too
He’s fine at. 70, it’s not gonna affect anything in the uptake dept until a. Prolonged cold snap indoors and no power, plants will generally start shutting down uptake at 55 -60 degrees for a 24 hour period I agree that it could be warmer, but if doing so mess with your creature comfort to try to balance your microclimate in the last weeks of summer,over a few degrees that are negligibl, depending on lineage and sourcing for the genetics, it could be a pretty easy deal here,
 
Now you can have seasonal swings in well that could answer of you just have something Down there that seeps manganese deficient water flow through the earth,

So do these look familiar?
These cases are worse, but I see some stark similarities, it caused by too high rh at plant height. Also does the main stalk taper to a smaller stalk anywhere? This summer has been brutal too….that medium I very saturated.

This leads to full blown fusarium. You may want to start checking out kickass fungal stuff x
Not looking too much like that, stems are sturdy pretty much all the way through, i did feed on Tuesday night and new growth is looking very healthy and starting to see that green come back in some older growth.
 
Any stem purpling? Purple stems this yellowing and 70 degree temps might be P deficiency...I'll stay tuned..
There is very mild purple in the stems on the lower leaves that were really struggling, now that being said i did feed half a dose of nutrients and we are seeing more green and yellow is fading back looking more healthy.
 
He’s fine at. 70, it’s not gonna affect anything in the uptake dept until a. Prolonged cold snap indoors and no power, plants will generally start shutting down uptake at 55 -60 degrees for a 24 hour period I agree that it could be warmer, but if doing so mess with your creature comfort to try to balance your microclimate in the last weeks of summer,over a few degrees that are negligibl, depending on lineage and sourcing for the genetics, it could be a pretty easy deal here,
So I'm here in CO, i have my first plants outdoors and they are finishing up and we are getting 55 -60 degree nights but the plants are doing fine and that's natural here, should be a two more weeks for those plants, same soil, different strains, than what's inside but didn't have the issue were are seeing with the indoor grow. So i do lean a little on the side i think what I'm growing now is a little more sassy (probably should of grabbed another easier strain). But the plants are here in my bedroom, temp i should say is more naturally around 73ish and it wont get cold in this heat pit of a room unless A. power goes out or B. I open the windows when it's 45 or lower.
 
So I'm here in CO, i have my first plants outdoors and they are finishing up and we are getting 55 -60 degree nights but the plants are doing fine and that's natural here, should be a two more weeks for those plants, same soil, different strains, than what's inside but didn't have the issue were are seeing with the indoor grow. So i do lean a little on the side i think what I'm growing now is a little more sassy (probably should have grabbed another easier strain). But the plants are here in my bedroom, temp i should say is more naturally around 73ish and it wont get cold in this heat pit and alunless A. power goes out or B. I open the windows when it's 45 or lower.
Right on, yeah I’m not trying to spook ya, just give you options. So as low as 45 already! Damn! Sometimes i forget not everyone lives in the swamp like my dumb ass😂 And yeah man, you know pissy plants happen with variations and Phenos. They pop up on the regular, but yeah man don’t see anything wrong with you know 60° or whatever that’s totally good and the nights are getting down to 45 that’s not all night is it I mean that’s gotta be like a curve to where the day is cooling down and you know probably by like three or 4 AM it’s max cold? Temp is one thing, rh? If it high enough 75 degrees and unchecked rh can start trouble. You know, heat pit and not great airflow?
 
well I googled it and this forum came up..distilled vs Tap water...By experience can anybody tell me what the ph of distilled and the (average) tap water ph is?..And what does "run off" mean exactly?..I would think if your using distilled and then use tap water it would spike the ph?..Is it a personal preference or is it because that's the only water available?
 
Also to be clear im not watering to runoff every watering, ive only done it a couple times to get ph readings
That ppm is crazy! Straight water no nutes? I thought mine was bad...

I gal of distilled to 1/4 gal of that water you will have a lower ph and some alkalinity too...what ferts are you using?
 
Holy smokes! 700 ppm is full strength for my ladies after adding 150 cal-mag, 500 Grow and 50 RO water...
 
Me…I’m a newbee on my 3rd grow and don’t have the expertise of most guys here. But to me they look overwatered.
 
Sure would. Just ph the feed after giving them a good flush
Better to not ph adjust in soil. Heres what i do. Use enough tap to ro water. Get the ratio right that when you add your nutes the ph itself hits the spot you want it at..ppm of nutes isnt a huge deal as long as npk is balaced enough as to not bring on deficiency. Make sense?

Cut the ro water with enough tap water to give enough alkalinity to react to the acidic nutes and that will keep the ph from going down too much....
 
I may have but the moment they grew their first leaves they were burnt like that and the water I was using was distilled when they were seedlings. So the ph down with my well water is needed.
You can't accurately measure pH in distilled water, pH electrodes will not give accurate pH values in distilled or deionized water, therefore the readings you're getting are incorrect;

Do a slurry test of your soil and post the results.
 
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