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Saltwater Redneck Tinkers With Nature And Nurture With Bagseed

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Hello everybody, and welcome to my end-of-the-summer recap of my best year yet growing weed. The summer of 2024 in Atlantic Canada was basically a heat wave with many people commenting on how well their plants are doing.

So anyways, I'm sure you all have heard people, purists or hi-tech growers maybe, say not to bother with bagseed. They say because you don't know what you're going to get for a result. To me, that reasoning brings me to the decision TO do it.

So with my degree in Environmental Biology, I decided to see what I can do with the lineage. Now genetics isn't my specialty by any means, but rather more along the environmental tangent. I have a pretty good knowledge of how an ecosystem works and how to adapt a habitat for restoration purposes, so why not see what I could come up with.

I used to run a waste treatment system at a salmon hatchery, but the last thing I want to use is chemicals and machinery. But my niece just arrived; we buried my mother in law/her grandmother yesterday and we're just hanging out here now.

I'll continue in the near future when I'm a little more stable.
 
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SaltwaterRedneck said:
Hello everybody, and welcome to my end-of-the-summer recap of my best year yet growing weed. The summer of 2024 in Atlantic Canada was basically a heat wave with many people commenting on how well their plants are doing.

So anyways, I'm sure you all have heard people, purists or hi-tech growers maybe, say not to bother with bagseed. They say because you don't know what you're going to get for a result. To me, that reasoning brings me to the decision TO do it.

So with my degree in Environmental Biology, I decided to see what I can do with the lineage. Now genetics isn't my specialty by any means, but rather more along the environmental tangent. I have a pretty good knowledge of how an ecosystem works and how to adapt a habitat for restoration purposes, so why not see what I could come up with.

I used to run a waste treatment system at a salmon hatchery, but the last thing I want to use is chemicals and machinery. But my niece just arrived; we buried my mother in law/her grandmother yesterday and we're just hanging out here now.

I'll continue in the near future when I'm a little more stable.
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Hey, thanks so much for sharing your experience! It sounds like you’ve had an incredible year despite the challenges, and I really admire your curiosity and willingness to experiment with bagseed. Your background in Environmental Biology adds such a unique perspective to growing, and I’m sure you’ll come up with some amazing insights.

I’m also really sorry for your recent loss. Take your time to process everything, and when you’re ready, we’ll all be here to hear more about your journey. Stay strong, and wishing you and your family lots of peace and comfort.
 
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SpiderFarmerLED said:
Hey, thanks so much for sharing your experience! It sounds like you’ve had an incredible year despite the challenges, and I really admire your curiosity and willingness to experiment with bagseed. Your background in Environmental Biology adds such a unique perspective to growing, and I’m sure you’ll come up with some amazing insights.

I’m also really sorry for your recent loss. Take your time to process everything, and when you’re ready, we’ll all be here to hear more about your journey. Stay strong, and wishing you and your family lots of peace and comfort.
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Thanks loads. What I need is comething to concentrate on and I'm in between harvesting while waiting for more to to come to term. When the terminal bud is put in to cure it'll fill a 2gal bucket. And this plant has the added benefit of focusing the adhd. Clear sailing for me well into next year.
 
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So yeah, like I was saying, I want to avoid as much unnecessary crap as possible. So far the only thing I'm using on this generation so far (other than gardening tools) that came from a store is a couple bags of black earth topsoil. Our ground is acidic, typical of what's a transition between boreal forest and temperate, and not the ideal stuff for this.

Location and natural processes supply lots of nutrients and water. I live at the bottom of a bank and the top of a small floodplain. My babies get loads of nutrient runoff coming down in surface water, and in dry spells, moisture will always be found a few inches down.

Now I like to be unconventional, think outside the box, you know? I found the solution to the side effects of a last-resort antidepressant by comparing my brain to a waste treatment system at a salmon hatchery I worked at. Yeah, I flipped out a few medical and health care professionals when I passed on that bit of info. But I digress... that's ADHD for you. I don't try to rein it in any more.

Yeah, you gotta think outside the box. So the organic part of the nutrients? Well, you know the saying "look what the cat dragged in"? Two years or so ago, that saying entered my mind when I was thinking about how to fertilize my plants in an environmentally friendly way and the cat came back with a bird and put it at my feet. That's called a Confluence of Events. So yeah, I turned my weed patch into the Pest Sematery. If you want even better, use fish products and waste. Best thing you can use along the lines of a natural grow.

But last month I started a compost pile. I'm winding down for retirement in less than four years and I'm doing cleanup at a superstore. So last month I asked myself why I wasn't bringing compactor-destined produce home to recycle. After the winter when it's broken down some I'll scatter it in my patches and continue.

So anyways, there's a little spiel on how I fed my plants in a purely natural way, zero cost. I get materials for my art almost totally through recycling too. More on that later. I'm gonna burn me a Cheech and Chong gagger now. Have a good night or day, wherever you are.
 
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From one plant so far with more to go. Not including my chain smoking to get through last week and the stuff I gave away.
 
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So, fellow potheads, that's how I take care of my plants' requirements that are most easily manipulated, and the availability of water is already taken care of by my location.

As for light, well, all I an say there is minimize the shade... not much we can do about the weather. Meteorology is a very inexact science. But I have three patches going around the house, each with different periods of full sun and my best producing plant, an indica, came from the midrange photoperiod. That being said, the tallest ones are the ones that get the sun first, but they're sativas. And the one that gets the least light, well, you know... not that they're scrawny, just a little smaller but still decent producers.

I'm thinking I'll take a test branch off one of the hybrids tonight for a sneak preview. So far with the indicas, I have 2gal of primo ADHD control, somewhere over a quart each of something almost as good and tastes to me like garlic and another one that I really can't place. I have some garlic growing for companion planting; would garlic terps get into neighboring plants? Stranger things have happened...
 
#8
Now this morning I separated the trichs from the trim. Nothing fancy: I took clumps of it and rolled it around in my hands and let it fall back into the container. From there I took a stick and stirred it around to further separate it.

After I pulled the leaf matter from the top I was left with a green powder at the bottom. That's what I was going for. I rolled one up into a spliff and I think I just hit the Reset button on my brain...
 
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SaltwaterRedneck said:
Hello everybody, and welcome to my end-of-the-summer recap of my best year yet growing weed. The summer of 2024 in Atlantic Canada was basically a heat wave with many people commenting on how well their plants are doing.

So anyways, I'm sure you all have heard people, purists or hi-tech growers maybe, say not to bother with bagseed. They say because you don't know what you're going to get for a result. To me, that reasoning brings me to the decision TO do it.

So with my degree in Environmental Biology, I decided to see what I can do with the lineage. Now genetics isn't my specialty by any means, but rather more along the environmental tangent. I have a pretty good knowledge of how an ecosystem works and how to adapt a habitat for restoration purposes, so why not see what I could come up with.

I used to run a waste treatment system at a salmon hatchery, but the last thing I want to use is chemicals and machinery. But my niece just arrived; we buried my mother in law/her grandmother yesterday and we're just hanging out here now.

I'll continue in the near future when I'm a little more stable.
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The only strains that have stood the test of time over decades were all bagseed lol.
 
#11
Hey there, love your approach to gardening! Right on. Every real grower I know has grown some bag seed. Bag seed is actually where legends have been made. Chances make champions! Looking at that long bud brings back memories of some 3 and 4 footers we used to grow!! Nice work
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RealFarmer said:
Hey there, love your approach to gardening! Right on. Every real grower I know has grown some bag seed. Bag seed is actually where legends have been made. Chances make champions! Looking at that long bud brings back memories of some 3 and 4 footers we used to grow!! Nice workView attachment 2286328
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Thanks man. Those are some pretty baseball bats you have there too.
 
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Carrying on with my grow this summer, I lapsed into unconventionality there too. I started a few plants indoors in a pot. Just kinda seed bombed it and covered them up.

I don't subscribe to the paper towel school of thought; they weren't around when weed evolved, so they're not necessary. Actually, you're introducing two potential sources of error: the germination and transplanting stages. They could dry out, get damaged in transferring, they'll have to get accustomed to the new habitat. Nope, I simply put a bunch of seeds right into a single big pot which will take a longer time to dry out. A large system is inherently more stable, so let's make the best use of a simple principle, what? If they get a little big before transplanting outside, give them bigger pots.

The patches had lots of seeds put down. Last year I was growing two females purely for seeds and the rain that fall made for a losing battle with mold. I had to harvest the seeds real early to cut my losses, and the subsequent percentage of viable seeds was disappointingly low.

So rather than put them down in rank and file I just seed bombed my patches in May after the ground was thawed but before natural germination time. That way, rather than wait until the first full moon in June or whatever convention dictates, the plants sprout exactly on their own time as per natural processes. How's that sound? But... that being said, I collected a couple thousand seeds from my two plants and I had a bit of excess to work with.

So up to this point we have the ground prepared and some plants on the go. By this time it was half past June and it was warming up outside. Time to let them get a bit of size...
 
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SaltwaterRedneck said:
Carrying on with my grow this summer, I lapsed into unconventionality there too. I started a few plants indoors in a pot. Just kinda seed bombed it and covered them up.

I don't subscribe to the paper towel school of thought; they weren't around when weed evolved, so they're not necessary. Actually, you're introducing two potential sources of error: the germination and transplanting stages. They could dry out, get damaged in transferring, they'll have to get accustomed to the new habitat. Nope, I simply put a bunch of seeds right into a single big pot which will take a longer time to dry out. A large system is inherently more stable, so let's make the best use of a simple principle, what? If they get a little big before transplanting outside, give them bigger pots.

The patches had lots of seeds put down. Last year I was growing two females purely for seeds and the rain that fall made for a losing battle with mold. I had to harvest the seeds real early to cut my losses, and the subsequent percentage of viable seeds was disappointingly low.

So rather than put them down in rank and file I just seed bombed my patches in May after the ground was thawed but before natural germination time. That way, rather than wait until the first full moon in June or whatever convention dictates, the plants sprout exactly on their own time as per natural processes. How's that sound? But... that being said, I collected a couple thousand seeds from my two plants and I had a bit of excess to work with.

So up to this point we have the ground prepared and some plants on the go. By this time it was half past June and it was warming up outside. Time to let them get a bit of size...
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I agree, seeds germinate everywhere, it is especially good to prepare seedlings in deep water culture. The 1920)))) growing guide gives the exact timing depending on the growing region. As usual, the reason is not stated and seems to be known only to agronomists. But after observing for several years in a row, I have noticed that it is by the specified date of the month that the first heavy rains occur. As you know, water is an excellent conductor of heat, and the temperature for specific crops is no secret. Phosphorus fertilizers are applied in the same way, choosing the hottest days when phosphorus dissolution is at its maximum.
 
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ForestSpirit said:
I agree, seeds germinate everywhere, it is especially good to prepare seedlings in deep water culture. The 1920)))) growing guide gives the exact timing depending on the growing region. As usual, the reason is not stated and seems to be known only to agronomists. But after observing for several years in a row, I have noticed that it is by the specified date of the month that the first heavy rains occur. As you know, water is an excellent conductor of heat, and the temperature for specific crops is no secret. Phosphorus fertilizers are applied in the same way, choosing the hottest days when phosphorus dissolution is at its maximum.
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I'm not sure how the time to plant is determined. I just assumed it was kind of a general rule or something. But I'm trying to do things close to natural and seed bombing is as close to it as I'll get.

Now, about the phosphorus, I didn't know that, but now that it's in my head it makes sense, I guess. I'm really not sure how the solubility of phosphates are; I know all nitrates are all water soluble. And I just hit on an idea: I must play rockhound next year. This area is rich in high quality potash. Must go find some for the patches. Good to talk to others who know the intricacies of this. Gets the creative juices going... or was it the big head rush I just had that did it?
 
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SaltwaterRedneck said:
I'm not sure how the time to plant is determined. I just assumed it was kind of a general rule or something. But I'm trying to do things close to natural and seed bombing is as close to it as I'll get.

Now, about the phosphorus, I didn't know that, but now that it's in my head it makes sense, I guess. I'm really not sure how the solubility of phosphates are; I know all nitrates are all water soluble. And I just hit on an idea: I must play rockhound next year. This area is rich in high quality potash. Must go find some for the patches. Good to talk to others who know the intricacies of this. Gets the creative juices going... or was it the big head rush I just had that did it?
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I would also like to add that cannabis uses up to 1200 liters of water to create 1kg of dry mass and it is especially important at the stage of critical mass, which coincides with budding and it is really important. Given the weak ability to retain salts by the roots, it requires higher doses of minerals
 
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Now I was under the impression that it wasn't really greedy for that. Good to know though, and right now the main compounds are phosphates, am I right? They get lots of that all round with the dead catkill I put in.
 
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SaltwaterRedneck said:
I think the cat will only work after a few years) 300 to 1200 liters per 1 kg. Hemp devastates the earth, you have to give the earth a rest every 3-4 years to restore balance. The land is self-regulating. Agrochemistry has achieved amazing results in reducing nutrient application. This is also the goal of soil regeneration. We can't do the excessive amount of fertilizer, and we can't make them not. Waste fertilizer, humus and other fertilizers are also harmful in large quantities. If you are interested natural way, it is interseeded cultivation, yield may not be very high, but plants help soil maintain natural balance due to the totality of plants living together. It's a complicated subject, you need to know all the plants at once).
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