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bongboy8200
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Whats up guys. First been growing a while and I know I'm going to get crap for this. I know it's snake water and 90% of the stuff is the same etc etc etc. This is for my science project brain that I haven't used in a long time.
Cliff Notes:
Question - When using supplements how to you adjust your base nutrients?
- I am pretty much General Hydroponics (see below).
- I use Advance nutrients big bud and bud candy
- I am about to use Purpinator
- Big bud and Purpinator have P and K
----- Called advance nutrients and they said base nutrients stay the same and the supplements are added at their dosages
----- This seems wrong and I'll be over loading and causing lockouts. So it would make sense if I am adding P and K from other sources than the grow chart from GH I should be cutting it from something else. The only thing I adjusted was Kool Bloom at 75% and the supplements at 50%
I am about to be out of Amor Si. I have Bloom city silca blast which is 0-0-1 vs 0-0-4
When I look at the grow charts the base nutrients don't change for General Hydro stuff. So I guess I use a little less then recommended amount but I'm till losing some K, right?
What Ive done so far and my nutrient cycle
Current Nutrients in order from seed to bloom
after germ until it looks like a plant 1-2 weeks - clonex seed clone solution
Week 1 GH micro, grow, bloom
Week 2 - week 1 veg GH amor si, CalMag, micro, grow, bloom, floralicous, Southern AG family friendly bennies (mix 1ml/10ml h2o and 1ml solution/gallon)
Flower
Week 2 everything from week 1 plus GH kool blIoom, AN big bud and AN bud candy
Week 5 cut the big bud.
last 3 weeks switch to diamond nector to cut the Nitrogen
I have also used floral nector which has molasase. I never get root rot. Hate the molasase so cut that out.
Now I am cutting my Kool bloom to 75% the lowest dose feeding. And I cut the Big Bud and the bud candy to 50% the dose. Big bud is a 0-13 and i felt like I was getting some lockout from the exess K.
My plants look great but if my EC starts at 1.7-1.8 after 24 hours and the res being half empty im up to 2.3-2.5. pH is pretty stable. I felt when I cut the base nutrients plants where hungry...
I call advance nutrients and they said you don't change any of the base nutrients when adding the supplements. how could this be? and I think it is coming directly from the bud candy. I also have Purpinator which I am going to start using asap for my powerpunch x cookies. between colder temps and that Im hoping some nice colors and flavor.
ell
I have checked ec and ppm going in 1 by 1. i make sure the silica is mixed well then the calmag. pH creeps up for a while. Then make sure the micro is mixed well and so on
My EC and PPM go from just GH line up 1.78 and 891 to 1.9 and 950 after the AN supplements
So how does one account for adding or decreasing NPK if supplements have them?
Purpinator is 0-2-4
Again this is a science project using my biochem and molecular biology after a decade. Right now I get very good results but it's a pain and it isn't much better than using botnicare grow and bloom with some cal mag in flower. It takes forever mixing everything and I don't have huge res's. So after playing with all these I am going to be looking for the easiest and cheapest ways. I like AN pH perfect stuff but I forget which one, I think X factor, is like $50 and it is legit Mg. I can use epson salt... again how much espon salt? How much purpinator? just add the recommended like AN guy said for supplements? Thanks and dont hate me too much. I'll post pics from my phone to reply to this. have some great plants going.
Cliff Notes:
Question - When using supplements how to you adjust your base nutrients?
- I am pretty much General Hydroponics (see below).
- I use Advance nutrients big bud and bud candy
- I am about to use Purpinator
- Big bud and Purpinator have P and K
----- Called advance nutrients and they said base nutrients stay the same and the supplements are added at their dosages
----- This seems wrong and I'll be over loading and causing lockouts. So it would make sense if I am adding P and K from other sources than the grow chart from GH I should be cutting it from something else. The only thing I adjusted was Kool Bloom at 75% and the supplements at 50%
I am about to be out of Amor Si. I have Bloom city silca blast which is 0-0-1 vs 0-0-4
When I look at the grow charts the base nutrients don't change for General Hydro stuff. So I guess I use a little less then recommended amount but I'm till losing some K, right?
What Ive done so far and my nutrient cycle
Current Nutrients in order from seed to bloom
after germ until it looks like a plant 1-2 weeks - clonex seed clone solution
Week 1 GH micro, grow, bloom
Week 2 - week 1 veg GH amor si, CalMag, micro, grow, bloom, floralicous, Southern AG family friendly bennies (mix 1ml/10ml h2o and 1ml solution/gallon)
Flower
Week 2 everything from week 1 plus GH kool blIoom, AN big bud and AN bud candy
Week 5 cut the big bud.
last 3 weeks switch to diamond nector to cut the Nitrogen
I have also used floral nector which has molasase. I never get root rot. Hate the molasase so cut that out.
Now I am cutting my Kool bloom to 75% the lowest dose feeding. And I cut the Big Bud and the bud candy to 50% the dose. Big bud is a 0-13 and i felt like I was getting some lockout from the exess K.
My plants look great but if my EC starts at 1.7-1.8 after 24 hours and the res being half empty im up to 2.3-2.5. pH is pretty stable. I felt when I cut the base nutrients plants where hungry...
I call advance nutrients and they said you don't change any of the base nutrients when adding the supplements. how could this be? and I think it is coming directly from the bud candy. I also have Purpinator which I am going to start using asap for my powerpunch x cookies. between colder temps and that Im hoping some nice colors and flavor.
ell
I have checked ec and ppm going in 1 by 1. i make sure the silica is mixed well then the calmag. pH creeps up for a while. Then make sure the micro is mixed well and so on
My EC and PPM go from just GH line up 1.78 and 891 to 1.9 and 950 after the AN supplements
So how does one account for adding or decreasing NPK if supplements have them?
Purpinator is 0-2-4
Again this is a science project using my biochem and molecular biology after a decade. Right now I get very good results but it's a pain and it isn't much better than using botnicare grow and bloom with some cal mag in flower. It takes forever mixing everything and I don't have huge res's. So after playing with all these I am going to be looking for the easiest and cheapest ways. I like AN pH perfect stuff but I forget which one, I think X factor, is like $50 and it is legit Mg. I can use epson salt... again how much espon salt? How much purpinator? just add the recommended like AN guy said for supplements? Thanks and dont hate me too much. I'll post pics from my phone to reply to this. have some great plants going.
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