Newty's Fast Buds Blackberry Auto, feat. Spider Farmer SE4500

[Newty]

Day 14 from sprout

Getting bigger everyday!

7 more days and they will be topped, well at least the 2 biggest plants but the weird leaf girl is starting to pick up pace so 7 days might be enough growth for her to get topped as well.

Started adding Silica at 1.25 ml/gal

I think the plants are big enough to be watered with the SIP now so this weekend I'll setup the wicks and fill the ACI Bases with water/nutes.
I'll probably double my nutrients at that time as well, except for Cal-Mag and maybe Silica.

 

[Newty]

Idk wtf is going on with the mutated plant
It may have topped itself, not quite sure yet.
1 branch is growing from a node, idk if that's the new "main" branch now or what.
I don't see much growth coming out of the middle like a normal plant would grow.
Maybe the plant decided to focus its energy toward a healthy branch

The other 2 plants are growing quicker everyday.
1 of the plants is bigger then the other, not just in height but the leaves are noticeably larger as well.

Thinking about starting 5 minutes of UV every 1 hour during main light on.
I purchased the UV during my last grow in this tent during the flower stage so I've not tried UV during veg so I'm curious if there will be benefits.

 

[Greenadian]

Looks great so far Newty!!
I am also running some Fastbuds gear atm
New to me

Cheers

 

[AZreefer]

I'm in. I want to follow close so lots of updates will be needed! I'm very curious about the runt. Thanks!

 

[Newty]

I'm in. I want to follow close so lots of updates will be needed! I'm very curious about the runt. Thanks!

I can't wait to see what the "goofy" grows out to be!
Starting to see some action in the middle of the plant since last update!
Almost looks like I'm going to have 3-4 branches right in the crotch, if the others start taking off.
The bigger growth in the middle is definitely moving quick now!
Even though it looks goofy, it's as healthy as the other 2 plants I would say.

I made a mistake and thought I was told to wait 21 days from sprout and then top but it was actually 14 days
I just topped 2 of them last night.

Put the wicks into the AC Infinity Self-Watering Bases and filled each with 1 gallon of water/nutrients.
I raised the nutrient strength for the 2 "normal" plants, "goofy" plant is getting half the strength of Micro, Gro, and Bloom.

Armor Si - 1.5 ml/gal
FloraMicro - 2.5 ml/gal
FloraGro - 2.5 ml/gal
FloraBloom - 2.5 ml/gal

Was thinking of turning on the deep red supplement bars to get these to stretch a little bit, the plants are pretty compact.

 

[Newty]

Exciting things happening during the night with the "goofy" plant!
Definitely going to have 3 branches right in the crotch, there's 1 more smaller growth in the crotch but it's not moving much so could possibly be a 4th branch.
Just glad to see the other growth starting to move along now!

It must have a decent root system, it's taking water from the ACI self-watering bases so the roots must be close to reaching the lower 1/3 of the pot.

 

[Newty]

The "goofy" plant is growing bigger and faster everyday now, just in time since it will only be in veg a few more weeks.

The lowest branches on the biggest plant are now the tallest branches, few more days and I'll be able to start LST.

The smaller of the 2 normal plants is taking water from the ACI self-watering base faster then the others.

Plants are definitely showing that indica with there big, wide, and fat leaves.

Node spacing is starting to increase, these plants are pretty compact so definitely a good thing.

 

[Newty]

The last growth in the middle decided to start growing, still small but about 3 times the size it was 2 days ago.
That's the 4th branch right in the crotch to develop.

It's almost as if the plant focused it's energy on 1 branch and after it grew a bit, focused it's energy on the next branch, then the next, and finally this one!

Sorry for all the updates....
Never personally had a plant start like this and I just like watching it grow

 

[SchwiftyGrower]

I’m in for the party bro!! Love the setup, how you liking the light?

 

[Newty]

I’m in for the party bro!! Love the setup, how you liking the light?

The SE4500 is a killer light, plenty of power and perfect dimensions.
This is my 2nd grow with this light, 1st grow was photoperiods and it definitely produced!

I recommend this light to anyone running a 4x2 but now Spider Farmer changed the light and idk if the model I have can still be purchased.
While they changed the SE4500 from LM301B diodes to LM301H EVO diodes on the new model, they also lowered the light wattage by 110 watts, it's now 320 watts instead of 430 watts. They also remove 1 led bar, only has 3 instead of 4 like mine has which makes the light 10" narrower then the older model.

Idk if they are trying to keep it priced similarly and is why they removed diodes and power.
I would rather have more diodes, power, and LM301B then less diodes, less power, and LM301H EVO.

Majority of growers won't notice difference in plants when growing with LM301H vs LM301B.

I'm not saying this as a negative to Spider Farmer but I want everyone to know the SE4500 in my diary is not the same as the one they have on their website now.
Would hate for someone to order the light based off my diary and recommendation and get caught off guard when they receive something different.

 

[SchwiftyGrower]

The SE4500 is a killer light, plenty of power and perfect dimensions.
This is my 2nd grow with this light, 1st grow was photoperiods and it definitely produced!

I recommend this light to anyone running a 4x2 but now Spider Farmer changed the light and idk if the model I have can still be purchased.
While they changed the SE4500 from LM301B diodes to LM301H EVO diodes on the new model, they also lowered the light wattage by 110 watts, it's now 320 watts instead of 430 watts. They also remove 1 led bar, only has 3 instead of 4 like mine has which makes the light 10" narrower then the older model.

Idk if they are trying to keep it priced similarly and is why they removed diodes and power.
I would rather have more diodes, power, and LM301B then less diodes, less power, and LM301H EVO.

Majority of growers won't notice difference in plants when growing with LM301H vs LM301B.

I'm not saying this as a negative to Spider Farmer but I want everyone to know the SE4500 in my diary is not the same as the one they have on their website now.
Would hate for someone to order the light based off my diary and recommendation and get caught off guard when they receive something different.

Great review and thanks for the feedback. I had the SE3000 and only had I think 2 sessions with it before switching. Been looking to upgrade my area and light and been thinking of going back to SF, seen a lot of great results including yours!

 

[Newty]

Before LST

 

[Newty]

After LST

Yes, I even trained the goofy plant.
I had to take 2 leaves from her, they just covered a lot of the other growth so they had to go.
Node spacing wasn't long enough for me to put a clip on the biggest branch so I used garden wire to keep it down.

 

[Newty]

As much as it pained me to do it, I removed the upper biggest, beautiful leaves on both of the normal plants. I really didn't want to but they were blocking so much light and growth so they had to go

I removed 6 leaves on the goofy plant.

I've been noticing my leaves starting to droop/wilt and I'm finding water spots on them.
The top of the soil was actually quite wet in the goofy plant pot, it's bottom fed so it should be dry on top.
My Frostette in my 8x4 is drying in the same room so the Blackberry Auto tent is seeing humidity levels of 60%-65%, I don't want to turn on the dehumidifier and screw up the drying of the Frostette.

I received my AC Infinity Thermoforge Heater the other day and the Auto tent is running around 74 lately, I hooked up the heater and put the duct in my tent, set it to turn on at 75 and shut off at 77 during lights on, 68-71 lights off and runs at level 2 of 10.
My humidity levels are now staying between 45%-50%, drooping/wilting has stopped and the water has dried up on both the leaves and goofy plant soil.
Heater really did an excellent job changing my environment and getting my plants looking better quickly.

AC Infinity bases are filled with the following nutrient dose,

Armor Si (Silica) - 2 ml/gal
CALiMAGic - 5 ml/gal
FloraMicro - 2.5 ml/gal
FloraGro - 2.5 ml/gal
FloraBloom - 2.5 ml/gal

 

[Newty]

Yesterday morning I woke up to a little surprise, the 2 normal plants started flowering.
The goofy plant, from what I can tell, isn't showing flowering yet.
They all came out of the ground at the same time so my understanding with Autos is that they will flower around the same time, would be interesting if the goofy plant doesn't start for awhile.

 

[Newty]

Goofy plant has really exploded since last week.
I'm going to have to trim some leaves if I want any chance of getting some good buds from this plant.

1 of the normal plants (middle) is pushing purple already

 

[Newty]

Spooky Season

 

[Newty]

Here are some pictures that are not so spooky

Really impressed with how that goofy plant hung in there and grew, I honestly didn't expect it to make it this far.

Self-Watering Bases are about empty and by the looks of the center plant, I will need to raise my nutrient dose a little when I refill them.

Yesterday I started using Spider Farmer UV, IR, and Deep Red Supplement Bars.
UV - 5 minute cycle every 1 hour
IR - 15 minute cycle before main light on and 15 minute cycle after main lights off
Deep Red - same schedule as main light

 

[BearWater]

You got me wanting to pop that mystery auto you sent me with the GMOxOkie! Im afraid I’ll F it up though. How many days from start to finish? Also my flower room would be on flower mode so if it didn’t finish with the current run itll just have to share space with the HKs and others im starting now.

It’s really cool how they were sitting thinking about life and then just blast off! The two that aren’t goofy really look good! Is that normal for autos or just environmental factors?

How sensitive are autos in general? My shed is where I go to torcher and humiliate plants! think itll survive the dungeon?

 

[Newty]

You got me wanting to pop that mystery auto you sent me with the GMOxOkie! Im afraid I’ll F it up though. How many days from start to finish? Also my flower room would be on flower mode so if it didn’t finish with the current run itll just have to share space with the HKs and others im starting now.

It’s really cool how they were sitting thinking about life and then just blast off! The two that aren’t goofy really look good! Is that normal for autos or just environmental factors?

How sensitive are autos in general? My shed is where I go to torcher and humiliate plants! think itll survive the dungeon?

These Blackberry Auto say 9-10 weeks from sprout.
The mystery Auto I grew a couple months ago finished in 10 weeks.
Whats nice is you can give them how many hours of light you want, you could do 20/4, 18/6, 12/12, or anything you want and they will still flower when it's time.

I'm not sure what your asking about as far as normal for autos or environmental factors.
If you're talking about how they grew.....the 2 normal plants grew IMO as they should of, they also stretch when they flower just like photos.
The goofy plant is smaller and looks different because it had stuck membrane issues at the beginning.

The purple you see in the bud pics is a trait of this strain.

Honestly I'm not really treating the Autos any different then I do my photoperiods, I'm making small adjustments to nutrients but all the other care has been the same.
Topping and training happens a bit faster because you're up against the clock with Autos.
I've had night time temps as low as 63 and never skipped a beat.

Now I did have high humidity for a bit and I could see they didn't take it as well as photoperiods do, this could be just a strain thing or it could be an Auto thing. Not sure, learning myself still lol.