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Leaves don’t look great

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Ps is this the girls I grow. 7 weeks from seed. 10 gal bag. Ova 6 ft tall 👌
 

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HGE said:
Did you now up it or you up it before... also do you do a runoff flush when you watering? Or just top up watering?
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I slowly upped it and last feed I just did ph’d water thinking it’s nute lock or burn. I’m using coco and running canna nute line. My next feed I’m going to lower ppm to 1000 and stay there for a little I also do no run off but I should of on my flush to test the run off
 
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Timv said:
I slowly upped it and last feed I just did ph’d water thinking it’s nute lock or burn. I’m using coco and running canna nute line. My next feed I’m going to lower ppm to 1000 and stay there for a little I also do no run off but I should of on my flush to test the run off
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You should... here is the information I need from you..
1. The size of pot you use.
2. You daily watering volume in liters.
3. The final NPK ratio of your feed.
4. Your feeding frequency and when you feed how much liters of water you feed per pot and @ what ppm.

And from now on... always have runoff.. plants grows on ratio not amount available... because plants release H+ and OH- ions into the soil to take up the respective nutrients... it cannot really select the nutrients from the filth that built up... so a flush is always needed..
After all you can eat... without pooping.. you too will die quickly. 🥲
 
#25
HGE said:
You should... here is the information I need from you..
1. The size of pot you use.
2. You daily watering volume in liters.
3. The final NPK ratio of your feed.
4. Your feeding frequency and when you feed how much liters of water you feed per pot and @ what ppm.
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1. 7 gallon pots
2. 4L per plant
3. Got me on that one
4. Every other day when top of coco is dry 4L per pot was @1250 ppm
 
#26
Timv said:
Was wondering if anybody could help me out identify the issue that’s going on with my plants. So they first seem to start getting purple and then after they’re done getting purple, they get yellow and curl and dry up. I just started week four and this started a week and a half ago the only thing I’ve done different this time around was spray lost coast plant therapy. Could that have caused this?View attachment 2355789
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The purple color is commonly a sign of phosphorous deficiency. These plants will move mobile nutrients and moisture from older leaves when there isn't enough available through the roots. Reproduction (flowering) is their priority, so other parts of the plant might be sacrificed. It also looks like the plant needs more frequent watering, because the plants like plenty of water during this stage of their lives. I'm also wondering if the light might be too intense. Sometimes reducing the light intensity helps, even if it does slow growth somewhat.

You could cut off the dead leaves.
 
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LoveGrowingIt said:
The purple color is commonly a sign of phosphorous deficiency. These plants will move mobile nutrients and moisture from older leaves when there isn't enough available through the roots. Reproduction (flowering) is their priority, so other parts of the plant might be sacrificed. It also looks like the plant needs more frequent watering, because the plants like plenty of water during this stage of their lives. I'm also wondering if the light might be too intense. Sometimes reducing the light intensity helps, even if it does slow growth somewhat.

You could cut off the dead leaves.
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HGE said:
You should... here is the information I need from you..
1. The size of pot you use.
2. You daily watering volume in liters.
3. The final NPK ratio of your feed.
4. Your feeding frequency and when you feed how much liters of water you feed per pot and @ what ppm.

And from now on... always have runoff.. plants grows on ratio not amount available... because plants release H+ and OH- ions into the soil to take up the respective nutrients... it cannot really select the nutrients from the filth that built up... so a flush is always needed..
After all you can eat... without pooping.. you too will die quickly. 🥲
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TheGoldenRoad said:
Don’t spray this crap on your plants. Look at the ingredients.

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any recommendations on a quality product for pm?
 
#32
Timv said:
1. 7 gallon pots
2. 4L per plant
3. Got me on that one
4. Every other day when top of coco is dry 4L per pot was @1250 ppm
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4L per pot per day!!!! Bro I feed 2L per day @ 800ppm max to the girl above.. and she drinks 10L of water a day... you have nutrient lock out for sure due to calcium build up locking out first phosphorus.. then magnesium and iron.. no wonder you get every nutrient deficiency.
 
#33
HGE said:
4L per pot per day!!!! Bro I feed 2L per day @ 800ppm max to the girl above.. and she drinks 10L of water a day... you have nutrient lock out for sure due to calcium build up locking out first phosphorus.. then magnesium and iron.. no wonder you get every nutrient deficiency.
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4L Every other day
 
#34
@Timv So here is what you have to do. Once calcium lockout happens there is only one fix.
1. Use tap water.. yes tap water and use Hydrochloric acid (muriatic acid) and buffer the water to around pH 5 to 5.5 .
2. Add that water to the pot till saturation (a little water runoff). do this at lights off and leave it ova night.
3. In the morning.. use more of the flush water about 4L per 7 gal bag and add it to the bag you should get about 3 to 4 liter of runoff. After this you can return to your normal watering.
4. Drop you feeding ppm to around 1000ppm and feed 1L per day for the next week and ONLY 1L . Then Top up pot with water alone till you get atleast 1l of runoff everyday till the rest of your life growing.. and you will have zero issues.
5. After the week is ova. You can go to 1.5l of nutes feed. No indoor grow needs more than that.. because you are limited by light uv at that point.
 
#36
HGE said:
4L per pot per day!!!! Bro I feed 2L per day @ 800ppm max to the girl above.. and she drinks 10L of water a day... you have nutrient lock out for sure due to calcium build up locking out first phosphorus.. then magnesium and iron.. no wonder you get every nutrient deficiency.
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HGE said:
Oh... 2l still too high.
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This was my crop before and all other followed suit I’ve never had this problem and never changed my feeding style I always gradually increased ppm and maxed at 1250ppm and eventually dropped back down after week 5
 
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Timv said:
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This was my crop before and all other followed suit I’ve never had this problem and never changed my feeding style I always gradually increased ppm and maxed at 1250ppm and eventually dropped back down after week 5
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Maybe as growers.. when we did something good.. we thing doing more will get better results? But a 1l runoff solves that issue permanently 😉
 
#38

A little update I think we’re doing alright for what it is lol but just started week 6 hoping to pull some sort of weight off them still
 
#39
Ganjafiend420 said:
Hello,

My first thought is it looks like you're dealing with a nitrogen deficiency, which is pretty common during the flowering stage. A lot of people cut back on nitrogen to focus on phosphorus and potassium, but if it's reduced too much or too early, the plant can start pulling nitrogen from the older leaves, causing them to yellow.

Notice how the new growth looks healthy while the older growth is dying off? Think of it like your body needing protein, if you don’t consume enough, it starts breaking down your muscles for protein. The plant is doing something similar, prioritizing its energy for the flowers and shedding leaves it no longer needs as a resource.

Hope that makes sense and helps. Good luck!
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This may be a good tip, but I consider it "advanced" for a lot of growers... A lot of us are trying to follow the feedcharts and feeding N in flower seems to be against what most recommend..I'm not knocking what your saying here, I'm just stating that many of us try to stay on course following feedcharts, especially new growers.

My last grow, I continued feeding Veg nutrients all the way through flower. Instead of following the feed charts, I tried half Veg/ Half Bloom. ( I went really easy on the bloom)..... The president of Dyna Grow mentioned that bloom nutrients are a bunch of "hog wash".... He says Veg is all that's needed for cannabis, and they sell bloom only because people "think" they need it ! It worked well, my plants stayed green but were very leafy at harvest....

I'd say there is a possibility that there is some type of lockout here or the PH is off and the nutrients aren't getting to the plant. It also could very well be a N deficiency as you mention but it really sux to have to "wing it" when you rely on nutrient feed charts !
 
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