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Nutes I’ve been using for my organic only runs
Alaska Fish Fertilizer; NPK: 5-1-1
Epsoma Organic Bone Meal; NPK: 4-12-0
Dr. Earth Pure Gold; NPK: 2-2-2
 

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yea if i were you i would definitely look into manganese (not magnesium) and boron deficiencies. I think you have some lingering micronutrient deficiencies, or the calcium phosphate left your soil extra alkaline one (can cause a manganese and boron lockout if too much calcium is present and the plant doesnt need it)
This is where I was gettin at with the bone meal post earlier! I had a manganese lockout I believe from too much cal in the mix

I was using the fish bone meal, plus gypsum, all was good, last run I did with all organics and reused promix (3rd run) I decided to add lobster and crab meal to the mix (also high in cal) and saw the same thing.

Cal is always too low… until it isint

It’s the one upside to cal mag, it’s instant and dosent linger around like bone meal or gypsum or fish bone meal etc, so it’s easier to control I think the biggest problem is expecting it to be depleted and amending to compensate. But once we amend it’s there till it’s gone.


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What is Manganese?​

Manganese is one of nine essential nutrients that plants require for growth. Many processes are dependent on this nutrient, including chloroplast formation, photosynthesis, nitrogen metabolism, and synthesis of some enzymes. This role of manganese in plants is extremely crucial. Deficiency, which is common in soils that have neutral to high pH or a substantial deal of organic matter, can cause serious problems with plants.



Manganese and Magnesium​


It's necessary to note the difference between magnesium and manganese, as some people tend to get them confused. While both magnesium and manganese are essential minerals, they have very different properties. Magnesium is a part of the chlorophyll molecule. Plants that are lacking in magnesium will become pale green or yellow. A plant with a magnesium deficiency will show signs of yellowing first on the older leaves near the bottom of the plant. Manganese is not a part of chlorophyll. The symptoms of manganese deficiency are remarkably similar to magnesium because manganese is involved in photosynthesis. Leaves become yellow and there is also interveinal chlorosis. However, manganese is less mobile in a plant than magnesium, so that the symptoms of deficiency appear first on young leaves. It's always best to get a sample to determine the exact cause of the symptoms. Other problems such as iron deficiency, nematodes, and herbicide injurymay also cause leaves to yellow.
 

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Nutes I’ve been using for my organic only runs
Alaska Fish Fertilizer; NPK: 5-1-1
Epsoma Organic Bone Meal; NPK: 4-12-0
Dr. Earth Pure Gold; NPK: 2-2-2
Love the Alaska fish fert! Stuff is gold! Was using it during my organic runs, won’t be using it in the living soil, but only because I’m focusing on a new method now. But that stuff was my go to for nitrogen, I alternated between that and the Advanced Nutrients Big Mikes OG tea from their organics line, awesome stuff as well, only used each of them at 2ml/gal just as a constant pick me up to keep that nitrogen in place till harvest

The dr earths is very similar to the Gaia Green, not sure about the sourcing for the organics but besides that it looks like good stuff

I have used the TRU Organics tomato and vegetable and there’s another one I can’t remember, I’d have to look when I get home but both did great as well. Used them both in addition to my Gaia green and the rest of my organic mix I was using

Both were comparable to the dr earth and did great I’d use em again no problem (they were both closer to the 2-8-4 range the Gaia uses for its flower mix)
 
Love the Alaska fish fert! Stuff is gold! Was using it during my organic runs, won’t be using it in the living soil, but only because I’m focusing on a new method now. But that stuff was my go to for nitrogen, I alternated between that and the Advanced Nutrients Big Mikes OG tea from their organics line, awesome stuff as well, only used each of them at 2ml/gal just as a constant pick me up to keep that nitrogen in place till harvest

The dr earths is very similar to the Gaia Green, not sure about the sourcing for the organics but besides that it looks like good stuff

I have used the TRU Organics tomato and vegetable and there’s another one I can’t remember, I’d have to look when I get home but both did great as well. Used them both in addition to my Gaia green and the rest of my organic mix I was using

Both were comparable to the dr earth and did great I’d use em again no problem (they were both closer to the 2-8-4 range the Gaia uses for its flower mix)
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I think we are getting somewhere here 👍👊
There’s a lot of options, depends on the level of “organic” you’re going for

Cal mag is “organic” but wouldn’t be used in living soil if that makes sense, it’s like fish fertilizer it can be made 2 ways

We want the hydrolysate version

  • Non-Hydrolyzed – Fish fertilizer is made from unusable fish parts, including bones, scales, and skin. Rather than discard these unusable fish remnants, they are transformed into essential nutrients and used for gardening. These unusable fish and fish remnants are ground up and processed to remove oils, resulting in the liquid we know as a fish emulsion which is an ideal fertilizer for gardens.
  • Hydrolyzed– In this process, the whole fish product is used for fertilizer, which allows even more nutrients to reach your plants. Hydrolyzed fish fertilizers have a very low count of N-P-K, so they will not burn plants and is the best concentration for supporting soil microbes. Often, molasses, kelp, and seaweed are added to these fish fertilizers, which have added benefits for plants and microorganisms.
We prefer the hydrolysate fish fert

Fish hydrolysate is a raw material that can be heated to produce fish emulsion, a liquid fertilizer. Fish hydrolysate is made from fish, while fish emulsion is made from the liquid residue of heated fish.
 
Jesus I’m fucking CRYIN at this shit hahahaha went and brought it out to my crew and showed it to them had em on the floor 🤣🤣🤣

Guess it wasent what they expected the boss to show em at 2am 🤣
 

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