How do i grow bud as good as the medical dispensory?

[Kanetoad]

Do any of you have a suggestion for a 4x4 light which would be more than enough to flower 4 plants? I am considering a SF 4000 or mabie one of those new AC Infinity lights. I have only ever used LED.

At this point i should just think about getting an AC tent kit. That way ill have 2 tents one for veg and one for flower and i could keep a perpetual grow going.

 

[Kanetoad]

Check this bad boy out. Its not spider farmer but the reviews say its about the same with a lower price tag plus supposedly its american made.

 

[Bobcat.Branch]

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Check this bad boy out. Its not spider farmer but the reviews say its about the same with a lower price tag plus supposedly its american made.

A couple of the reviews are troubling, including this one:

The only issue I am having is that it doesn't turn on when my loght timer triggers in the morning

 

[TheGoldenRoad]

"I am on my 5th attempt to grow top notch bud with minimal expense and effort." The minimal expense and effort part jumps out at me as having something to do with it. This isn't meant as any form of insult. I started in guerilla grows and most of my first few runs were salvaged gear or DIY specials, which takes a decent amount of effort to do right an dial in. You save on cost though. On the other side, I've worked in places with high-end equipment and everything was basically automated. Very low effort but very expensive.

You can get good results with minimal effort and cost, as you've seen. But to get high quality, you'll end up having to invest in it. The ability to dial in an exact temp and humidity, and then hold it there. An RO system, cannabis-specific nutrient formulas fed at exactly controlled amounts. CO2. It's all the little things that add up to big differences

cats out of the bag

 

[LoveGrowingIt]

SOo you would be okej growing amazing 18g for 5months?

All my weed is amazing! I would, of course, be disappointed with an 18g plant. I can count to 28 -- and beyond. Nevertheless, I let the small plants finish. They're often excellent, potency-wise, and I wonder why.

I feel bad when i dont get at least the gram/w i know i didnt fill the space or i made a shittone of mistakes. And after all that time working on the plant i dont have enought for the rest of the year uffff.

I haven't been thinking of growing efficiency in terms of grams per watt. Another efficiency measure is yield per area, which I believe may be better.

• Wattage used emphasizes one growth factor over all others. Lights are not created equally, so one light's wattage may not be comparable to another light's wattage. Further, wattage only applies within the range of a plant's tolerance. It is also a counterintuitive negative correlation: Raising the wattage mathematically decreases efficiency, while decreasing the wattage does the opposite.
• Area uses standard units of measurement and thus cannot be changed. A square foot of tent space is always a square foot of tent space. All growth factors, therefore, impact the efficiency ratio.

Admittedly, I have long been a skeptic of high-powered lights. I appreciate advancements in light technology, but I'm also leery of marketing hype. I put wattage meters on my lights, and I've never used the full rated power of any light. None of my lights are rated higher than 30 watts per square foot.

I spent time thinking and writing about this because you asked. (It's also how I learn.) My focus has been on growing enough for our needs and the basic pleasure of growing these plants. For me, this isn't an occupation. It's a hobby. I respect other growers' methods, even if they differ from mine (as most do).

And yes... I recently won a 640-watt light. It's much more powerful than any light I've used so far. I promised Phlizon I'd provide a thread about it, and I will. My opinions might change. If they do, I'll write about it in that thread. The light has shipped, but I don't have it yet. I'm eager to get started, but the chaos in the only room where I can put it is challenging, to say the least. I'm also thinking about what equipment to buy to go with it.

 

[TheGoldenRoad]

All my weed is amazing! I would, of course, be disappointed with an 18g plant. I can count to 28 -- and beyond. Nevertheless, I let the small plants finish. They're often excellent, potency-wise, and I wonder why.


I haven't been thinking of growing efficiency in terms of grams per watt. Another efficiency measure is yield per area, which I believe may be better.

• Wattage used emphasizes one growth factor over all others. Lights are not created equally, so one light's wattage may not be comparable to another light's wattage. Further, wattage only applies within the range of a plant's tolerance. It is also a counterintuitive negative correlation: Raising the wattage mathematically decreases efficiency, while decreasing the wattage does the opposite.
• Area uses standard units of measurement and thus cannot be changed. A square foot of tent space is always a square foot of tent space. All growth factors, therefore, impact the efficiency ratio.

Admittedly, I have long been a skeptic of high-powered lights. I appreciate advancements in light technology, but I'm also leery of marketing hype. I put wattage meters on my lights, and I've never used the full rated power of any light. None of my lights are rated higher than 30 watts per square foot.

I spent time thinking and writing about this because you asked. (It's also how I learn.) My focus has been on growing enough for our needs and the basic pleasure of growing these plants. For me, this isn't an occupation. It's a hobby. I respect other growers' methods, even if they differ from mine (as most do).

And yes... I recently won a 640-watt light. It's much more powerful than any light I've used so far. I promised Phlizon I'd provide a thread about it, and I will. My opinions might change. If they do, I'll write about it in that thread. The light has shipped, but I don't have it yet. I'm eager to get started, but the chaos in the only room where I can put it is challenging, to say the least. I'm also thinking about what equipment to buy to go with it.

I saw the light that you won and congrats again. I just got the FD4000 in and It’s been great so far. Definitely has the power to get someone there and yours will have 220 more watts behind it.

 

[LoveGrowingIt]

I saw the light that you won and congrats again. I just got the FD4000 in and It’s been great so far. Definitely has the power to get someone there and yours will have 220 more watts behind it.

Thanks. I guess I should start a thread. I don't want to hijack this one. I only have shipping confirmation, so far. It's not too soon to plan, though.

 

[THC_AeroGrower]

All my weed is amazing! I would, of course, be disappointed with an 18g plant. I can count to 28 -- and beyond. Nevertheless, I let the small plants finish. They're often excellent, potency-wise, and I wonder why.


I haven't been thinking of growing efficiency in terms of grams per watt. Another efficiency measure is yield per area, which I believe may be better.

• Wattage used emphasizes one growth factor over all others. Lights are not created equally, so one light's wattage may not be comparable to another light's wattage. Further, wattage only applies within the range of a plant's tolerance. It is also a counterintuitive negative correlation: Raising the wattage mathematically decreases efficiency, while decreasing the wattage does the opposite.
• Area uses standard units of measurement and thus cannot be changed. A square foot of tent space is always a square foot of tent space. All growth factors, therefore, impact the efficiency ratio.

Admittedly, I have long been a skeptic of high-powered lights. I appreciate advancements in light technology, but I'm also leery of marketing hype. I put wattage meters on my lights, and I've never used the full rated power of any light. None of my lights are rated higher than 30 watts per square foot.

I spent time thinking and writing about this because you asked. (It's also how I learn.) My focus has been on growing enough for our needs and the basic pleasure of growing these plants. For me, this isn't an occupation. It's a hobby. I respect other growers' methods, even if they differ from mine (as most do).

And yes... I recently won a 640-watt light. It's much more powerful than any light I've used so far. I promised Phlizon I'd provide a thread about it, and I will. My opinions might change. If they do, I'll write about it in that thread. The light has shipped, but I don't have it yet. I'm eager to get started, but the chaos in the only room where I can put it is challenging, to say the least. I'm also thinking about what equipment to buy to go with it.

Overall, I would agree Grams per watt is really not a great measure, especially for home grows. Much better to consider yield over area or I prefer yield per plant. Most breeders will give you a range of yield to expect under optimized conditions. If you're getting pretty close to that number and you're getting good enough quality and quantity for your needs, then you won the game . If you should be getting 4 oz off a plant and you get 3, no big deal in my opinion. But if you get 1oz ...time to think about your setup.

 

[Mikedin]

Do any of you have a suggestion for a 4x4 light which would be more than enough to flower 4 plants? I am considering a SF 4000 or mabie one of those new AC Infinity lights. I have only ever used LED.

At this point i should just think about getting an AC tent kit. That way ill have 2 tents one for veg and one for flower and i could keep a perpetual grow going.

I would suggest bar style fixtures less heat to deal with overall, my PL4500 gets hotter than my FCE8000 running double the watts

depends on your price constraints though panels are cheaper

This is a FD4000 for the same price 259 on Amazon I run a FD6500 and it’s a great light

 

[LoveGrowingIt]

Much better to consider yield over area or I prefer yield per plant.

I mostly think of yield per plant for my own purposes. I didn't mention it because I was thinking about being able to compare results. Yield per watt also has usefulness, if, for example, power cost is an issue.

If you should be getting 4 oz off a plant and you get 3, no big deal in my opinion. But if you get 1oz ...time to think about your setup.

I agree.

 

[Mikedin]

Thanks. I guess I should start a thread. I don't want to hijack this one. I only have shipping confirmation, so far. It's not too soon to plan, though.

Start up a topic start now, showing how you’re setting everything up for the grow, better to ask and get opinions now before you have plants going in it and have to move plants around

 

[LoveGrowingIt]

Start up a topic start now, showing how you’re setting everything up for the grow, better to ask and get opinions now before you have plants going in it and have to move plants around

Done.

I won a new Phlizon FD6000 640W light.

I plan to share. It's going to be a fun project. So far, I only have a FedEx tracking number.

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