advice wanted on my plant grow.

[m3vuv]

This is my first grow, white widow auto, about 10 weeks in, just wanted to know how long will it be befor its ready to harvest approx,cheers.

 

[LoveGrowingIt]

It looks like your plant has just begun to flower. The flowering time is typically about 8 weeks. I think it'll need more light than you're giving it, though.

 

[m3vuv]

It looks like your plant has just begun to flower. The flowering time is typically about 8 weeks. I think it'll need more light than you're giving it, though.

The lights are a 12w household led, A 50w led floodlight and a led panel out of a light box,wattage unknown 12hrs on 12ish off, I an using feed for tomatoe plants.

 

[RegularRebel]

The lights are a 12w household led, A 50w led floodlight and a led panel out of a light box,wattage unknown 12hrs on 12ish off, I an using feed for tomatoe plants

Seems healthy. Good job. Expect 8-10 weeks for finish. You can stop the tomato fertilizer (which is working fine and will carry it to the end and you'll be fine), and switch to something like banana water mixed with molasses if you want to give it something more flower specific. Try not to let water drops to sit on the leaves like that. Can cause "lensing" like a magnifying glass and burn the leaf. It will grow upwards until terminal flowering so increase space above or tie down anything getting too close to the lights.

 

[RegularRebel]

If you have some wooden matches like you strike on the matchbox, stick 4 or 5 of those head first into the soil about 1/4 inch or 2 cm and just leave them there. This will give her some secondary nutrients like sulfur and magnesium. Take a pencil or chopstick and sink it into the soil in three or 4 places an wiggle it a little. This will let some extra air into the soil at root level. Grab 2 or 3 clean and dried egg shells and crush them up. Drop them in 40 mg of white vinegar (5%). Let that sit for 2 days and then mix that with water. 1 part dissolved egg shells with 10 parts water. Add a good pinch of baking soda. If you have Epsom salt add a teaspoon of that to the mix for magnesium. You can give her that once in the week or every other week to get her some extra calcium. Make it fresh each time if you want to do that.

 

[Grownsince95]

It's an auto flower so you can leave the light on 18-20 hrs. It's going to need the extra time under those lights. You can get a cheap Amazon grow light for less than $50 that will make a world of difference without breaking the bank.

 

[RegularRebel]

It's an auto flower so you can leave the light on 18-20 hrs. It's going to need the extra time under those lights. You can get a cheap Amazon grow light for less than $50 that will make a world of difference without breaking the bank.

Both suggestions are good. I assumed they were doing the best they could with what they had. Purchasing a "grow light" in some situations may bring unwanted suspicion or attention, or may not be possible. The white wall is good for bouncing light back to the plant. The more reflective white surface around the plant without being a fire hazard is going to help. As for the daily light, 12 hours is good in my opinion, the plant will stay happy. All plants need the dark period for optimal health, and this tends to be 6 to 8 hours darkness. Adding some hours like 16 hours DLI will produce bigger buds in the end, but it may not be worth the security risk, if that's a concern.

 

[m3vuv]

What is DLI?., So does it need another 8-10 weeks from now before harvest approx ?.

 

[Grownsince95]

What is DLI?.

Daily light integral. Something to think about if you ever upgrade lights. It's a measure of daily PAR (photosynthetically active radiation). Your lights are too weak right now for it to be of concern. In my opinion you should increase to at least 18 hrs of light with your setup.

 

[RegularRebel]

Daily light integral. Something to think about if you ever upgrade lights. It's a measure of daily PAR (photosynthetically active radiation). Your lights are too weak right now for it to be of concern. In my opinion you should increase to at least 18 hrs of light with your setup.

The light is more than enough to read a book by so also intense enough for the plants photoreceptor cells to react to it. The photoreceptor trigger a response that moves at the speed of a plant, not exactly instantaneous. After the transition to "dark mode" the plant has an opportunity to be shifting phytochrome to its active form (Pfr to Pr) promoting reproductive growth over vegetative. There is plenty of leaf material there. Also allows energy conservation and repair processes. Basicly storing sugars for daytime use and repairing dna, processing waste. So not really a good idea to limit those needed processes to the bare minimum, or into deficit. 8 hours darkness is the minimum I would advise based on plant biology. 12 hours darkness more or less like they have going is going to keep the plant happy and healthy. Like it is. It looks healthier than many other problematic plants getting pounded with light, resulting in light stress, not being able to repair damage, have breakfast ready, or process waste.

 

[Grownsince95]

The light is more than enough to read a book by so also intense enough for the plants photoreceptor cells to react to it. The photoreceptor trigger a response that moves at the speed of a plant, not exactly instantaneous. After the transition to "dark mode" the plant has an opportunity to be shifting phytochrome to its active form (Pfr to Pr) promoting reproductive growth over vegetative. There is plenty of leaf material there. Also allows energy conservation and repair processes. Basicly storing sugars for daytime use and repairing dna, processing waste. So not really a good idea to limit those needed processes to the bare minimum, or into deficit.

You are just spitting out a bunch of chat GPT garbage without even understanding what you're talking about. Maybe you were too stoned when you read it. Phytochromes do not store sugars or process waste. What waste? Like plant poop? They are proteins that exist in every cell of the plant.

They use light, red light specifically to regulate phototropic responses in the plant. Specifically shade avoidance, germination and flowering. I can explain this to you in much clearer terms than Google if you want.

You think light to read a book by is going to grow the op a healthy plant?

 

[RegularRebel]

What is DLI?., So does it need another 8-10 weeks from now before harvest approx ?.

Yeah 8 to 10 but more like 8 because you have pre-flowers formed. But if you have to harvest in 7 weeks from now it's not a big deal. You lose a few grams doing an early harvest. It's up to you to wait or not. Wait at least 6.5, 7 more weeks if possible.

 

[RegularRebel]

You think light to read a book by is going to grow the op a healthy plant?

This is what I wrote:

The light is more than enough to read a book by so also intense enough for the plants photoreceptor cells to react to it

Since that is not clear or understandable: Photoreceptor cells do not need intense light to do what they do. A little light is enough for them to pick it up. For example enough to read a book in front of your face in a dark place.... is enough for them to react to. Light leaks, light stress can be very minimal yet they have an impact. Why? Because the photoreceptor cells dont need intense light to do what they do. Part of that is sensing darkness. The duration of "sensed" darkness is important. Shifting inactive to active. You are so hyper focused on light, you forgot they are also sensing "lack of light"

You are reading what I wrote and not understanding its meaning.

I'm not going to do a line by line correction and explanation. Sorry, pal. Your ad hominem attack ended your school lesson.

 

[m3vuv]

Yeah 8 to 10 but more like 8 because you have pre-flowers formed. But if you have to harvest in 7 weeks from now it's not a big deal. You lose a few grams doing an early harvest. It's up to you to wait or not. Wait at least 6.5, 7 more weeks if possible.

I may buy a 200watt full spectrum led gro light next week, Would that make much difference concidering its an auto and the maybe early flower stage that its at now?, also put up a 90w led floodlamp for now shown in pic1.

 

[Grownsince95]

I may buy a 200watt full spectrum led gro light next week, Would that make much difference concidering its an auto and the maybe early flower stage that its at now?View attachment 2398548

It will make a huge difference. Just be careful it will be a shock to your plant at first. You have to ease it in. If it doesn't dim you'll have to raise it up higher.

 

[Grownsince95]

Even if it's too late to make a big difference now you will have a light with much better PAR. Those lights you have likely don't have enough red or blue in them. The future plants will thank you!

 

[Nightstick008]

This is my first grow, white widow auto, about 10 weeks in, just wanted to know how long will it be befor its ready to harvest approx,cheers.

At least five more weeks. Start hitting her with bloom boosters. IE bone meal, and tea like recharge. She's going great.

 

[RegularRebel]

Start hitting her with bloom boosters. IE bone meal, and tea like recharge

let's hope the bloom booster doesnt have synthetic PGRs in it. I hear liver cancer is not that fun. They arent required to list the exact ingredients so read the label for anything vague and stick to a well known brand that wouldn't want to have its reputation damaged.

 

[Grownsince95]

let's hope the bloom booster doesnt have synthetic PGRs in it. I hear liver cancer is not that fun. They arent required to list the exact ingredients so read the label for anything vague and stick to a well known brand that wouldn't want to have its reputation damaged.

 

[RegularRebel]

I may buy a 200watt full spectrum led gro light next week, Would that make much difference concidering its an auto and the maybe early flower stage that its at now?, also put up a 90w led floodlamp for now shown in pic1.

It would be beneficial mostly because it's full spectrum. Not as beneficial as sunlight, but better than the limited spectrum you have now. And its 200 watt and that's probably more than double what you have in the limited spectrum. The cheaper grow lights are often made in china and they get warm, but so do the lights you have now, so it's likely not going to be a problem. Maybe you get one of the others that runs cooler, but it's something often overlooked on the first purchase and may not be a problem until summer arrives for some people.The only thing you need now is eye protection. That 200 watt LED can damage your vision. Get some grow goggles, or perhaps keep one of the smaller lights set up as an inspection light that you can switch on after switching the grow light off, and skip the grow goggles. While you are tossing money around, may as well get some eye protection. And a fan. Maybe some Epsom salt, white vinegar, and calcium carbonate to make water soluble calcium and magnesium. You probably already have baking soda. Water and soil ph test kit. More tailored fertilizers. Distilled water, if you dont have rain water collected. Bottle of H2o2.