Mikedin’s Living Soil Adventure and Living Soil discussion topic

[cpurola]

Mike!!! I hate your pics.
My little itty bitty outdoor plants won't have flowers for wayyyyy toooo lonnggg and I'm so jelly.
(I know, get a tent, lights, fans, nets, humidifier, dehumidifier, full line of nutes, controllers, and I can have flowers anytime I want. LOL)

 

[Mikedin]

Ur ideas sound awesome as the autos im growing are only my second grow.. I have a spider farmer 4x4x6.5 se5000 so talking to yall and learning the tricks of the trade and what to look out for is some of the best information I have came across

Always willing to chill and chat, new ideas are what I do I like trying new shit

I don’t say I don’t like something Till I try it

Feeds methods, scrogs, varying amounts of plants, higher PPFD / lower PPFD / current tents im using are a 4x8, 4x4, 3x3, 2x4, and 2x2

Oh and I rigged up a bunch of lights in the storage room for the garden veggies haha

 

[Mikedin]

Mike!!! I hate your pics.
My little itty bitty outdoor plants won't have flowers for wayyyyy toooo lonnggg and I'm so jelly.
(I know, get a tent, lights, fans, nets, humidifier, dehumidifier, full line of nutes, controllers, and I can have flowers anytime I want. LOL)

Believe me I’ll be done flowering in a couple weeks overall and then I’ll be envying all your outdoor plants I’m considering putting out a small one we’ll see so much going on indoors then the garden it’s a lot to juggle haha

 

[JIMKSI64]

You have posted your morning update in my topic, while you may this is a mistake it is not, you were drawn here for frosty flowers and I will deliver

And its time for a little nip for ol Frostette on her 2nd day of week 6

Thought I was on the train. Anyone know if an admin can move a post?

 

[JaBy]

gotta bring the updates in here too!

gotta love it.

 

[Mikedin]

Moreeee pics

Big photo drop haha

Got the new seedlings up, 2x Apples and Bananas x Okie and a Project 4516 x okie from @Variety719 up and rollin, got 2 helmet heads but they handled it well with a day and a half with a few spritzes of water

 

[defective]

Moreeee pics

Big photo drop haha

Got the new seedlings up, 2x Apples and Bananas x Okie and a Project 4516 x okie from @Variety719 up and rollin, got 2 helmet heads but they handled it well with a day and a half with a few spritzes of water

You got big hands bro.

 

[Mikedin]

Thought I was on the train. Anyone know if an admin can move a post?

I tried to but I can only move topics between subcategories not individual posts

Edit I’m fine with it here

 

[Mikedin]

You got big hands bro.

Crazy huh, makes my solo cups look like shotglasses, like fuckin Andre the giant holding a molson

 

[JIMKSI64]

Crazy huh, makes my solo cups look like shotglasses, like fuckin Andre the giant holding a molson

Saw that giant in late 80,s working Toledo Sports Arena. Just a huge mass of person. Made a lot of wrestlers look like kids and the dude could take a punch and smile.

 

[Variety719]

Moreeee pics

Big photo drop haha

Got the new seedlings up, 2x Apples and Bananas x Okie and a Project 4516 x okie from @Variety719 up and rollin, got 2 helmet heads but they handled it well with a day and a half with a few spritzes of water

Word up your and Frostette always getting along!
Here’s project 4516
I grew out the project x Okies in Oklahoma but was gone before they finished up but there is some heat in there!

 

[Mikedin]

Word up your and Frostette always getting along!
Here’s project 4516
I grew out the project x Okies in Oklahoma but was gone before they finished up but there is some heat in there!

Hell yeah! Can’t wait to see how they turn out! Got any pics of the A&B x Okie?

 

[Week4Bytch]

From that pic (can’t zoom in much gets blurry) and seeing the purples coming in on the cola sugars you may get some bright pinks in her

Mine looked funky on the last kahuna 3 run the pink come in first

What's the flower time with these, 12.weeks?

 

[Mikedin]

What's the flower time with these, 12.weeks?

I actually chopped at 8 weeks the last run, but I’m watchin trichs, I figure I’ll check on Sunday, which is 8 weeks and I’ll put the scope on them the first time, then see where they are at

 

[Week4Bytch]

I actually chopped at 8 weeks the last run, but I’m watchin trichs, I figure I’ll check on Sunday, which is 8 weeks and I’ll put the scope on them the first time, then see where they are at

Crud, mine are slow growing...

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

Certain cannabis strains are genetically predisposed to produce anthocyanins, the pigments responsible for purple, red, or blue hues

It’s a pigmentation of plants that have higher amounts of anthocyanin

The same thing that makes blueberries or anything else in nature blue or purples etc flowers, fruits, berries,

Also those fruits, berries etc all have terpenes that are the same terpenes in cannabis that give them their aromas and flavors

It also expresses more in colder environments twords the end of flower

Gonna add a bit to this

Dropping out phosphorus but leaving potassium up can aid in anthocyanin production too, and really cause some interesting turkey and things to happen if it's timed right. Can help bring out extra color. That's why a lot of the PK boost finishing nutrients on the market or like 10 to 20% higher potassium than phosphorus. But most the straight Bloom nutrients around are a little bit higher phosphorus than potassium simply because if you ride that line you will get a bit more of a fruit/flower yield with most plants cannabis included

If you've ever seen nitrogen and phosphorus deficiency together , but without any other deficiency you've rob seen exactly what I'm talking about. A copper fade with a bright pink/purple patterning. My Maui 86 phenotype doesn't color unless I drop the phosphorus out in late flower or make it cold.

When soil gets cold in the later fall, plants start to struggle to uptake new phosphorus and nitrogen, but most plants can move phosphorus around as well or better than they can move nitrogen around, so you get that copper and purple fade really quick once the topsoil gets cold outdoors is the plant has to switch to the reserves in the families, and this is why a lot of longer flowering plants will color up nice outside when they flower late even if they don't nearly as much inside. But the early finishers outside are usually less colorful than they are inside.


Because nitrogen and phosphorus are the easiest mobile nutrients for a plant to move around, once you're on into the latest stages of flowering, as long as you still have some deep green of those fan leaves nitrogen and phosphorus deficiency is actually not going to hurt you at all. You will likely enjoy the and smoke more actually, and suffer no hit to yield at all, a bonus is many plants will also be a lot prettier then otherwise too


Some plants just will not make high levels of anthocyanins no matter what though. With probably 50 of last gen pb's popped by multiple people back in KC, there's only been a single pieceBlaster that would color naturally. Even in cold or dropped out phosphorus

 

[Mikedin]

Crud, mine are slow growing...

Nah, these are plants I’ve hunted I like fast plants, when I run plants I look for those 8-10 week plants that are worth saving and those become my mothers till I find better to replace them

Takes awhile and you may run 9-10 plants of the same strain before you find one like that but they usually don’t take too long to find, but finding one with the right time frame PLUS the right characteristics making them worthy of saving, not always as easy but is doable just keep replacing the mother with a better plant as you find them

 

[Mikedin]

Gonna add a bit to this

Dropping out phosphorus but leaving potassium up can aid in anthocyanin production too, and really cause some interesting turkey and things to happen if it's timed right. Can help bring out extra color. That's why a lot of the PK boost finishing nutrients on the market or like 10 to 20% higher potassium than phosphorus. But most the straight Bloom nutrients around are a little bit higher phosphorus than potassium simply because if you ride that line you will get a bit more of a fruit/flower yield with most plants cannabis included

If you've ever seen nitrogen and phosphorus deficiency together , but without any other deficiency you've rob seen exactly what I'm talking about. A copper fade with a bright pink/purple patterning. My Maui 86 phenotype doesn't color unless I drop the phosphorus out in late flower or make it cold.

When soil gets cold in the later fall, plants start to struggle to uptake new phosphorus and nitrogen, but most plants can move phosphorus around as well or better than they can move nitrogen around, so you get that copper and purple fade really quick once the topsoil gets cold outdoors is the plant has to switch to the reserves in the families, and this is why a lot of longer flowering plants will color up nice outside when they flower late even if they don't nearly as much inside. But the early finishers outside are usually less colorful than they are inside.


Because nitrogen and phosphorus are the easiest mobile nutrients for a plant to move around, once you're on into the latest stages of flowering, as long as you still have some deep green of those fan leaves nitrogen and phosphorus deficiency is actually not going to hurt you at all. You will likely enjoy the and smoke more actually, and suffer no hit to yield at all, a bonus is many plants will also be a lot prettier then otherwise too


Some plants just will not make high levels of anthocyanins no matter what though. With probably 50 of last gen pb's popped by multiple people back in KC, there's only been a single pieceBlaster that would color naturally. Even in cold or dropped out phosphorus

I was reading something similar (I like them turning purple and will encourage it if I can, just love the look haha)

But I was also wondering if PH may play a factor, My PH on the kahunas is around 7.1 on a mechanical soil meter in the living soil, and the kahuna 3 is damn near black now she’s so dark, photos don’t even do her justice, kahuna 2 showed no purple last run, this run she’s all purple around her sugars and surrounding fans, my organic runs would average 6.4ish with Gaia and my other amendments

Seeing as most plants with a high percentage of anthocyanins like blueberry’s and raspberries (reds pinks purples blues) prefer a higher PH in their soil, think it holds any weight? Just what I’ve been observing over the past few runs. It’d be interesting to run the kahuna 3 synthetically and keep her Ph more in the 6.4 range and see how she finishes out

 

[Week4Bytch]

Nah, these are plants I’ve hunted I like fast plants, when I run plants I look for those 8-10 week plants that are worth saving and those become my mothers till I find better to replace them

Takes awhile and you may run 9-10 plants of the same strain before you find one like that but they usually don’t take too long to find, but finding one with the right time frame PLUS the right characteristics making them worthy of saving, not always as easy but is doable just keep replacing the mother with a better plant as you find them

Woah...didn't even think about that one .. the flowering time can differ between phenotype... INTERESTING.

 

[Eledin]

I was reading something similar (I like them turning purple and will encourage it if I can, just love the look haha)

But I was also wondering if PH may play a factor, My PH on the kahunas is around 7.1 on a mechanical soil meter in the living soil, and the kahuna 3 is damn near black now she’s so dark, photos don’t even do her justice, kahuna 2 showed no purple last run, this run she’s all purple around her sugars and surrounding fans, my organic runs would average 6.4ish with Gaia and my other amendments

Seeing as most plants with a high percentage of anthocyanins like blueberry’s and raspberries (reds pinks purples blues) prefer a higher PH in their soil, think it holds any weight? Just what I’ve been observing over the past few runs. It’d be interesting to run the kahuna 3 synthetically and keep her Ph more in the 6.4 range and see how she finishes out

It does play a role yes! Anthocyanins are produced in higher quantities in slightly acidic soil. I dont know where you got the info that blueberries prefeer higher PH soil, they thrive in acidic soil of 4 to 5,5. Thats because some aminoacids are absorved better at lower PH. Also I think that the statement that it doesnt matter if your PH is 7 in organic is WRONG. Yes, you can have nice plants with 7 ph but what the microorganisms do is break down the organic matter in the same exact chemicals that many salt based ferts have so in the end a PH of 6,2 or 6,5 is still prefeered and will bring out the best of every strain, specially colors.