First grow, how does she look?

[Eledin]

Unless those are UV and IR reinforcements (which in terms of UV it would be way too much anyway) blurples only give blue and red. They miss yellow, green and cyan which the plant uses from the sun. Yes, even green light plays a crucial role, they only reflect about 5% of green light (more than the others thats why they appear green too) but its still an important color in the spectrum.

 

[RoadKillSkunkHunt]

I dont mean to be rude or anything but why are you using blurple? Its the worst of all LEDs except for all blue or all red which are way worse. I see that youre using cool and warm white too with IR reinforcements, why not stick only with those since they give a full spectrum? (except for UV but they usually come with a few chips of both and if not its still not noticeable anyway, just a tiny boost on trichomes).

I'm not using blurples.

I have been experimenting with 440nm blues, 660nm deep reds, and 730nm far reds. Those lights are all on independent timers from my main light, a 630 watt Nanolux. In my other tent I have 2 ROI E720's with light controllers.

 

[Eledin]

I'm not using blurples.

I have been experimenting with 440nm blues, 660nm deep reds, and 730nm far reds. Those lights are all on independent timers from my main light, a 630 watt Nanolux. In my other tent I have 2 ROI E720's with light controllers.

Oh so its UV and IR reinforcements then. Im guessing you keep the UV at just a few hours per day then?

 

[RoadKillSkunkHunt]

Oh so its UV and IR reinforcements then. Im guessing you keep the UV at just a few hours per day then?

Actually in this run, I kept the UV on the shelf. I have 2 of California Lightworks UVB lamps and I have used them in other runs. This run was to see how strong blue light influences plant growth during flower. Using 440nm blue light and 660nm red light at different times during the grow, I can influence plant growth morphology. The 730nm reds were used to mimic the Emerson effect.

 

[jrok96]

Actually in this run, I kept the UV on the shelf. I have 2 of California Lightworks UVB lamps and I have used them in other runs. This run was to see how strong blue light influences plant growth during flower. Using 440nm blue light and 660nm red light at different times during the grow, I can influence plant growth morphology. The 730nm reds were used to mimic the Emerson effect.

what have you found using those california lightworks uvb's? i have some and when i did use them for a few hours per day i got crispy ass leaves and no noticeable difference with trichomes.

 

[Eledin]

what have you found using those california lightworks uvb's? i have some and when i did use them for a few hours per day i got crispy ass leaves and no noticeable difference with trichomes.

It helps but I think not like many people think. Last study I checked last year about it said it was a 5% increase (a bit inconclusive, could have been the phenotype, they didnt say if it was seeds or clones) in trichome production but they failed to mention for how long they used it. I try to buy panels that have a couple of UV chips but I wouldnt go as far as to buy a full UVB bar. That said Im glad people do, they can tell us if they see a major difference. They do produce more trichomes to protect themselves against UV light but that doesnt mean that its gonna have more trichomes than a strain that naturally has more for example.

 

[Eledin]

There was a study that I read some time ago and now the webpage doesnt exist anymore where it says that the roots do absorb suggars but you shouldnt use molasses for fattening only for microbes (thats why I use bud candy besides molasses). I tried searching a study in google scholar with no luck, let me know if you have more luck. What I know for sure is that the rhizosphere microorganisms can synthetize suggars.
So I guess you were right, unless you use microbes, which you dont, so it explains why you think suggars are useless aswell. I have never grown without microorganisms and believe me, if I didnt see any improvement I wouldnt be spending money on a bottle with mostly water and some suggars.
Pretty much like vitamins and hormones, they produce their own but supplementing gives them more time to focus on other things like growing or fattening buds. Or perhaps in this case the microorganisms just giving more NPK and other goodies in bigger populations.

 

[Eledin]

I'll never use Sensi pH perfect. I promise you that. I'm happy with my results with the product line I use.

Earlier you spoke about feeding your plants carbs. Plants don't consume carbs. When you add carbs to your soil, you're feeding microbes. The microbes then feed your plants ... This is where you keep running into resistance to your ideas. You're only getting half of what you're saying right. Plants do not eat carbs!

Yup yup. Yesterday I was a bit tipsy now Im getting you. Also needed to re-research and yesterday I wasnt gonna do it so I was stubborn instead, happens when I have a couple of beers thats why I never do. I always say something dumb that I regret the next day because I cant take my medication when I drink and alcohol doesnt do me any good either.
Today I spent a couple of hours, no studies found but many people saying the same as you so I was wrong. My apologies and thank you for being patient with me, sometimes its hard.

 

[Eledin]

OP makes it clear - the problem is way over watering and bad nutrient selection.

Roadkill explains the water problem.

But you can’t feed a plant a shit ton of P (which it doesn’t need) with no N in veg (or bloom) and not expect your plant to yellow.

IMO the entire bloom feed is a bunch of B.S. to sell bottles of junk you don’t need. No need to get all hung up on numbers, but generally a ratio of ~2–1-3 NPK should get you through a grow without wasting money on silly sweeteners, sugar, or “candy”.

Sorry for being so blunt with you yesterday, I still think youre still wrong but I was a dick
Keeping it simple can help a ton for new growers, but you can get more intricate with it and there's not an universal good NPK ratio because that depends on what else are you feeding so giving a random npk ratio that works for you to someone is not good advice. But please, dont let my stupid drunk self from yesterday prevent you from sharing your ideas, maybe someone will prove me wrong, again. Who knows, I like that everyone gives their input.

 

[amneziaHaze]

The strain is cookie gelato, I barely feed her in veg stage, I bought nutrient for the bloom only not knowing she would need more.
I used to water everyday and feeding every other day instead of water, then yellow leafs started to appear and I let her 2days without watering but it got worst, then it stopped when I increased the amount 1.7l instead of 1l
I'm using sensi bloom part a+b i put about 8ml in 2l, I alternate with big Budd another 8ml per 2l

I think it stopeed growing tall, last time I had to adjust lights was like a week ago
Thanks

Piss in a bottle and mix with 1:10 water there is your veg nute

 

[Eledin]

Piss in a bottle and mix with 1:10 water there is your veg nute

As much as I hate it, its true. I cant do it because I take medications and if you do take medications I dont suggest you do it but if youre not its a good NPK boost when highly diluted.
Will it create a bad smell indoors or nothing to worry about?
EDIT: It also works as a great compost starter.

 

[amneziaHaze]

I know a guy that grows indoor with only piss soo i guess no bad smell. But carbon filter will remove all smells if any come soo

 

[Eledin]

I know a guy that grows indoor with only piss soo i guess no bad smell. But carbon filter will remove all smells if any come soo

That made me fucking laugh I dont know why, I guess its the idea. Is the weed good? Im not sure about the ratios of NPK that piss has but if he is only feeding piss it shouldnt be a problem I guess. Damn, Im still smiling at it.

 

[Eledin]

I mean Ive seen plants grown with nothing but shit (not human) and trash and they can get very nice too if you balance the compost a little bit. But the piss caught me off guard, not that I didnt wanna try it but I cant and even if I could Im not sure I trust it enough to do it.

 

[amneziaHaze]

Well plants arent the darkest green but buds looked nice i mean it all fepends how you feed yourselfe.you have to eat for flower haha

 

[Eledin]

Hahaha yes I was thinking that its also a good way of avoiding bad drinking habits like sodas, alcohol, etc... But man having a diet for you to piss on your flowering plants is hilarious and amazing at the same time.

 

[KeyFingerFlying]

Looking great, especially for a first grow! You’ve clearly put time and care into this — she’s looking healthy and happy. Keep it up, you're on the right track!

 

[RoadKillSkunkHunt]

what have you found using those california lightworks uvb's? i have some and when i did use them for a few hours per day i got crispy ass leaves and no noticeable difference with trichomes.

No crispy leaves, but no noticeable difference in trichome resin production either. If I felt they worked and did what they were supposed to do, they would still be in use today. Instead they are on the shelf with other gear I stopped using.

 

[KolaKing]

I've never seen a real noticeable difference when I've run UV in my grows so I just don't bother. As was mentioned, a lot of the newer rigs will include a few UV chips but I haven't really seen a big difference. Honestly, like most of the stuff in this industry it seems to be a lot of marketing hype for little return. Same as I experienced with nute supplements.

I disagree about blurples. I still grow with one and have experienced no real difference in regard to flower weight and quality. Maybe because I don't grow exclusively with them and I have more updated lights alongside them that provide enough yellows and greens to supplement it but I love my blurple.

If I can find a good enough deal or actually win one of these raffles, I'd like to replace all the cobs I have in the tent with a large bar light. Something around 750 watts would be fine.

BTW I also got to see a piss vs ferts side by side. The takeaway was while piss may be able to provide the basic NPK it is severley lacking in the micros. The plants we used for each group were noticeable in their difference. For African farmers trying to grow in shitty soil with no real funding to be able to get what is needed to recondition the soil this is a godsend but just piss still lacks a lot.