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btw im a grower from the old HPS bulb days, when i say ballast, what i mean is driver. yea that barrel looking connector on the line, see if thats twists apart to let you remove the dimmer knob. And see if the light still turns on without it. Would be an...
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btw im a grower from the old HPS bulb days, when i say ballast, what i mean is driver.


yea that barrel looking connector on the line, see if thats twists apart to let you remove the dimmer knob. And see if the light still turns on without it. Would be an excellent troubleshooting step if that comes apart. Depending on how the dimming function works, direct voltage or by IC reading the resistance of the pot, it may not turn on without it. most modern lights are IC dimmer controlled so it should i would think.


IC = integrated circuit (basically a tiny computer lol)
Oh yeah it definitely twists.

The lights just went off so I'll try and twist it off tomorrow and see if the light still comes on and if it does I'll keep it off and see if it keeps flickering I'm assuming that the light will just operate at 100% without the dimmer switch being there.

Or it may not operate at all?
 
The Spider Farmer SF1000 has the dimmer switch on the board.

Perhaps that would explain why the flickering stopped quicker on that light?
the spider farmer light is probably just designed a bit better in general. Id say that housing is totally sealed.


Theres not any corrosion on the diode solder joints themselves is there?


(look for little bits of rust next to the led chips on the panel itself, each chip has two little solder feet that attach it to the board)
 
Oh yeah it definitely twists.

The lights just went off so I'll try and twist it off tomorrow and see if the light still comes on and if it does I'll keep it off and see if it keeps flickering I'm assuming that the light will just operate at 100% without the dimmer switch being there.

Or it may not operate at all?
it should just operate at 100%. my only light with a removable dimmer switch does. doesnt mean thats a sure thing though.
 
btw im a grower from the old HPS bulb days, when i say ballast, what i mean is driver.


yea that barrel looking connector on the line, see if thats twists apart to let you remove the dimmer knob. it may be firm, and make a pop sound like its airtight, because it should be lol. And see if the light still turns on without it. Would be an excellent troubleshooting step if that comes apart. Depending on how the dimming function works, direct voltage or by IC reading the resistance of the pot, it may not turn on without it. most modern lights are IC dimmer controlled so it should i would think.


IC = integrated circuit (basically a tiny computer lol)
It has a Samsung Chipset according to specs
 
the spider farmer light is probably just designed a bit better in general. Id say that housing is totally sealed.


Theres not any corrosion on the diode solder joints themselves is there?


(look for little bits of rust next to the led chips on the panel itself, each chip has two little solder feet that attach it to the board)
Nah, no rust, Everything looks good.
 
Nah, no rust, Everything looks good.
i got a feeling you just got some condensation in the dimmer knob.

If it works without it and doesnt flicker tomorrow, thatll tell ya all ya need to know 👍 💚


you could prob fix condensation by just setting the knob out in the sun for an hour or two lol. If it persists and you know the problem is the dimmer, then id get a can of deoxit and spray it out. its specifically designed to clean corrosion and oxidation from the carbon strips in potentiometers and variable resistors (like dimmer knobs lol)

And you def you dont have to fear the electricity at all going through the dimmer at all either, its probably not even 1 full volt lol.

if you get as far as determining its NOT the dimmer knob, i can absolutely walk you through probing the panel with an el cheapo multimeter without having to take anything at all apart, so you can determine if you just wanna spend $20 for a replacement unbranded driver, RMA the light to try and get a warranty claim on a new one, or just run it as is.

troubleshooting and repairing electronics is my jam ma'am.
 
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i got a feeling you just got some condensation in the dimmer knob.

If it works without it and doesnt flicker tomorrow, thatll tell ya all ya need to know 👍 💚


you could prob fix condensation by just setting the knob out in the sun for an hour or two lol. If it persists and you know the problem is the dimmer, then id get a can of deoxit and spray it out. its specifically designed to clean corrosion and oxidation from the carbon strips in potentiometers and variable resistors (like dimmer knobs lol)

And you def you dont have to fear the electricity at all going through the dimmer at all either, its probably not even 1 full volt lol.

if you get as far as determining its NOT the dimmer knob, i can absolutely walk you through probing the panel with an el cheapo multimeter without having to take anything at all apart, so you can determine if you just wanna spend $20 for a replacement unbranded driver, RMA the light to try and get a warranty claim on a new one, or just run it as is.

troubleshooting and repairing electronics is my jam ma'am.
So the deoxit is something you spray into the dimmer switch?

Do I have to take apart the switch if that's the issue?

What is deoxit, like WD-40?
 
I once had flickering light at dark phases with my LED during the first grow., which caused my plants to herm. Didn't find out until after the grow, because I never wanted to disturb the plants during dark phases. The source of the issue was pretty weird: I use an analogue timer, turns out that when you plug it upside down (wasn't obvious since it's plugged into a coupler strip) it will cause this problem. By sheer luck I found a comment somewhere that these timers can cause flickering during the OFF times, when you plug them upside down. My plants were already harvested at that point so I just went ahead, turned the timer into the supposed off phase and played with the dimmer. It really would flicker... so I unplugged the timer, plugged it the other way around and no more flickering when I played with the dimmer. Also no more herming plants since then - besides one where the breeders messed up and the herming wasn't stress related.
 
I almost shat the bed again - Bio Bizz is hard unless you transplant multiple times. I will switch to Bio Tabs or something else next time. Mineral fertilizer was much easier. I used it during my first runs in 2001, but I'm really liking the taste of the organic shit and wont go back. The organic, or in this case mostly organic stuff will take a while to kick in, so you will always walk a thin line between over- and underfeeding.

12/12 day 26
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Stinker closeup:
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The smell is nice and old school when I open up the tent. Spicy, earthy, coffee like, perhaps a bit sour.
 
sounds like theres corrosion or build up on the carbon strip in the variable resistor (dimmer knob)

id recommend contact cleaner into the potentiometer.


The biggest danger in these voltage ranges is a boo boo on the finger lol. You will also see smoke and smell very obnoxious unwanted smells long before it causes a fire at these kinds of amperages.


I strongly recommend every living soul obtain, and learn to properly use a multimeter, and good luck finding an electronic repair technician in todays world even willing to work on something like an LED driver, theyll recommend replacement od the driver, or contact cleaner on the potentiometer in a retail environment on a repair job for something thats technically a disposable chinese made electronic lol. 👍


If its flickering with knob turning, and there arent noises or smells coming from the driver, and there are no dulled or dead diodes..... youre going to take that to a repair technician to get told exactly what im telling you now because their bench fee is probably going to save you as much as that light is worth new. Thats not an antique tube radio or something.


Source: Electronic repairs on the side, and before LED panels got beefy and cheap enough i made my own from single diodes on aluminum bars with scratch made linear power supplies to supplement my HPS setups lol.


If that light was sold in the USA legally, it has no less then half a dozen safety features built into the driver as well. If the flickering isnt consistent, as in 1 second on, 1 second off, and stay consistent, the driver is not trying to tell you anything is wrong, the problem is somewhere in the signal path beyond the driver, and if all diodes are lighting properly when signal i flowing consistent, then the issue before the panel circuit. Meaning its very likely the potentiometer. Back to try contact cleaner lol. If you got it wet, theres probably corrosion or build up on its carbon strip. Pretty much all decent grow light drivers are sealed watertight, but the housing for the Pot usually isnt, and its a problem ive rectified before. Assuming its the same problem.. with contact cleaner lol.



Seriously, when i said you're in my wheelhouse on this i wasnt just cracking a funny. Theres not going to be any caps in that driver storing voltage longer then a couple seconds after powering it off. The voltages at work are pain level, not deliver lethal amperage to your heart level. Its barely above what is even considered "potentially hazardous" in the right contexts... like standing barefoot in a pool of water on the cement or bare dirt with a source that wont immediately shut off if amperage goes over 4a lol


The only actual risk comes from tinkering between the transformer and the 120v in. And theres never a reason to do that with these things. Ever, dont ever play with an open driver plugged into the wall, but thats common sense.


using a multimeter on the 35-60v 3a or whatever comes from the output of the driver is a little different. you dont even have to get into a driver to do that, and most panels have two exposed solder joints specifically for this purpose in QC lines at manufacturing plants. And most panels can have drivers replaced toolessly. But people arent aware because they never look into it and treat it like alien technology.

My singular purpose for running my trap on the internet right now about this is to get ya up and running as quickly, and as cheaply as possible and in a way maybe someone will learn how simple this actually is in the process lol. 🤣


Some truth: In real-world life, if your electronic device makes it to my solder bench, and past all my mouth running and arm flailing, you already owe me a $50 bench fee because im doing technician work for you at that point, even if its not fixed in the end or i just end up cleaning a potentiometer or two. I have been payed $50 to spray and wipe contact and carbon cleaner on many occasions in many electronics and give the nugget right back with nothing else to be done. If its a modern chinese made nugget like a full system led grow light, and its not covered by warranty, ya gotta figure the thing out yourself or fork up probably most of the cost of replacing the whole light to get it fixed. In most cases.
U sound like doc Brown from back to the future lolololol
 
Guys what's the dankest bud you've ever grown? Pics of you've got them ✌️
So far mines been this strawberry gorilla and it was an auto from 420 fastbuds but I'm pretty sure this crapple I have going is gonna knock it in the dirt n r know tho I have one that just popped that if my buddy is right is gonna be my dankest yet tho
 

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Think I might take a break till I got something to smoke. Before I take everything the wrong way & lose what if any respect i have on here & piss of folks I like.

There’s a good chance my friend will have some in a week or two the only guy who grows organic. So maybe not to long either way

Going through it like I am Is making me act in a way I don’t like with the nightmare dreams ect ect ect. I haven’t had a break in a long long time so my heads a mess chain smoking like a friggin chimney & waking up after the for mentioned nightmares is simply put making me act like a dick

Catch you on flip side 👍🙂
 
Think I might take a break till I got something to smoke. Before I take everything the wrong way & lose what if any respect i have on here & piss of folks I like.

There’s a good chance my friend will have some in a week or two the only guy who grows organic. So maybe not to long either way

Going through it like I am Is making me act in a way I don’t like with the nightmare dreams ect ect ect. I haven’t had a break in a long long time so my heads a mess chain smoking like a friggin chimney & waking up after the for mentioned nightmares is simply put making me act like a dick

Catch you on flip side 👍🙂
Hang in there bud! It's fucking rough in the beginning but you are going to get so fucking high the first time you smoke it's like being a teenager again!
 
Think I might take a break till I got something to smoke. Before I take everything the wrong way & lose what if any respect i have on here & piss of folks I like.

There’s a good chance my friend will have some in a week or two the only guy who grows organic. So maybe not to long either way

Going through it like I am Is making me act in a way I don’t like with the nightmare dreams ect ect ect. I haven’t had a break in a long long time so my heads a mess chain smoking like a friggin chimney & waking up after the for mentioned nightmares is simply put making me act like a dick

Catch you on flip side 👍🙂
Hang tough homie ✌️👊
 
Morning Train Riders.
No sun again for 3 days. Multiple fronts so multiple headaches. Some crappy DLI outside for May.
Low light makes pond management much easier. This year less than 15 lbs of copper sulfate knocked the algae right out. I have a small overflow area and today I reconnect and let the minnows into the pond. Do not do this much as it's normally a tadpole/ frog area but when water stays high I get extra free minnows from God.
Good sediment runoff and I have not seen the last sieve feeder in prolly a year. Fresh water clams all over and that brings Cranes. We have had a nest of Mallards and one of Canada Geese for 25 years. There is an old storage building falling down in deep cover and the geese bed down inside and the ducks just outside it.
Nature is sure at it again this year.
 
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