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[Smokie08]

Heads up, some douchy sarcasm incoming but it is NOT at all directed at you.

lol, no they dont. Promise. You can consider just about any euro breeder a liar as far as "skunk #1" is concerned. Its the single most lied about name to move seed there has ever been outside maybe sour D and columbian gold. Having grown true pure columbian sativa, its genuinely hilarious what euro seedbanks peddle as "columbian gold." Cross-eyed pugs by comparison. Someone needs to tell the dutch that highly inbred and backcrossed selective pollinated indicas cant grow wild in columbian, bolivian, and equador rainforest mountains as a land race

And im good on tiny auto frankensteins. Not to be a dick lol. Not for me. I breed with my plants.

That’s cool I was just researching stuff today and found this stuff and the other site about Sam thought I’d share I no there was a lot of talk about the #1 skunk

 

[figolus]

Skunk#1 sensiseed under 12/12 from seed ....1week before harvest

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

The sensi northern lights was solid commercial like buds vs the other Nl

northern lights is another people dont reazlize how old it is, its a super oldschool afghan thing, that genotype is like 50 years old its not going to give you dense commercial style modern buds.


When you buy northern lights from europe you get OG genotypes.

When you buy skunk from europe you get offshoots of the exodus cheese lineage, which was skunk #1, but nevil only ver had a single male plant of it. Use your imagination there lol. Same with NL, he only ever had a male, and OG females. And the originals were gone before anyone was even claiming to have it stable over there lol.

Having a plant that grew from a seed doesnt mean its what it was labeled, and those goes doubly so for euro breeders claiming to have oldschool USA F1 clone only and specific genetics from over 50 years ago originally, that were gone commercially before the dutch even knew what they were, and the one's who did were only ever given males, on purpose lmao.

By nevil's reign in the 1980s, the diutch already had a reputation for both stealing, and lying about genetics, and thats a legacy Nevil himself carried on too. Most the cannabis world, including myself until not too long ago, was under the impression Nevil's haze was the original. Nope, nevil only ever managed to beg borrow and plea to get a male of that one too, at least according to the people who actually originated the lineages. Even nevil's haze is just a stable hybrid of the original haze. Nevils afghan, the mazar plant? That was collected by Captain Jack and nevil just took the credit on that one too. Yo ucannot trust anything from a dutch seedbank that isnt a dutch lineage lol.

Which are basically none, even the legendary "dutch kush" is just OG kush stolen and rebranded, at least according to DNA tests it is. Its not even a hybrid, its just modern california OG kush, same as their northern lights. The entire dutch cannabis breeding industry is built on rebranding the work of american breeders, thats why they *dont work together on projects at all anymore*. At least according to the old heads deep in the industry.

 

[Grownsince95]

I love music with "mistakes"

People shit on Jimmy Page for being "sloppy" The solo in Heartbreaker is one of my favs!

Maybe he listened to a lot of jazz!

There are more "mistakes" in the first 24 bars of this song than any Led Zeppelin record and yet it is still an unquestioned classic!! It's all about the feel.

Miles Davis and John Coltrane with bubbles for a lazy Monday!

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

I love music with "mistakes"

People shit on Jimmy Page for being "sloppy" The solo in Heartbreaker is one of my favs!

Maybe he listened to a lot of jazz!

There are more "mistakes" in the first 24 bars of this song than any Led Zeppelin record and yet it is still an unquestioned classic!! It's all about the feel.

Miles Davis and John Coltrane with bubbles for a lazy Monday!



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as AI music starts taking over people are going to miss the mistakes.

Those old raw recordings have a magic that will never go away


you couldnt hit record 50x on new takes back then either because it was all rell to reel tape, no space bars and vst plug-ins lol. So even the real recorded performances today will never feel as real.


Why the bubblers though? You percolating chlorine away? Going to make a bubble cloner? You one of those cats to the aerates their nutrient solutions?

I'm sitting here hypnotized by the Coltrane and bubbles, wondering. Pondering.

 

[Grownsince95]

as AI music starts taking over people are going to miss the mistakes.

Those old raw recordings have a magic that will never go away


you couldnt hit record 50x on new takes back then either because it was all rell to reel tape, no space bars and vst plug-ins lol. So even the real recorded performances today will never feel as real.


Why the bubblers though? You percolating chlorine away? Going to make a bubble cloner? You one of those cats to the aerates their nutrient solutions?

I'm sitting here hypnotized by the Coltrane and bubbles, wondering. Pondering.

Go on you tube and listen to the album milestones. Side 1 is the classic 50's bebop. Side 2 is where Miles took jazz next. Except for the bass solo on Billy Boy, that sucks lol

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

Skunk#1 sensiseed under 12/12 from seed ....1week before harvest

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thats still a beautiful sativa id love to see in my garden, and yea it looks pretty damn legit, i could and would never deny that looking at it.

Youre in france right? Its weird trying to figure out if a European person's plant has the kind of skunk smell im talking about, because you guys dont have skunks, the animals, over there lol. Theres nothing in europe that smells like a skunk and most languages dont even have a word for it over there.

 

[BB22]

SF 2000 at 65% . I think too much light may have made the plants squat a bit Raised the light about 10” . Mix of ILGM Autos and some photos from Trust.

 

[PlumberSoCal2]

Gat daaaamn! lol you must use a fuck ton of nutes. What do you run? Just curious because that’s a lot of water.

I’m trying to learn the coco ways lol this run all my plants in veg I’m keeping in small containers and watering them mad times a day.hopefully makes them really take off.

Here's what I should've posted and will add to my coco growing post

I have two 1gal bottles for each of the three nutes and rotate as needed. Only 3 shown here, the other 3 are on the floor of the greenhouse in the shade.
To each bottle, filled 3/4 full of tap water I add:
#1 78 gms of Master Blend
#2 38 gms epsome
#3 78 gms calcium #3
to each bottle and fill the remainder of the bottle with tap water which is 7.0 pH and 225 carb hardness.
I have 3 one qt bottles that I use to mix the nutes into 1 gallon of fertigate. With coco you're always "fertigating" not just watering BUT you never want the coco dry out. The plant will suffer even if it's just a day or two.
This one gallon of nute water can be made weak, med and full strength by the amount of the concentrated nutrients used. 4 oz, 1/2 Cup of the 3 concentrates, and they must be mixed in order or lockout problems will occur, is the full strength amount that I give to adult plants. 1-2 oz per gallon work well for most herbs and Kratky hydro

I grow lettuce in the winter in Kratky, and young plants 8 days old to 3 or 4 weeks old.
3 oz per gallon is what I give most plants in veg and 4 oz is a full amount designed for Tomato Plants.
It works for weed real well if properly done and that's 3-5 x's a day, completely saturate the coco coir and have 10-20% runoff and again never let to dry out.
That's a lot of waste water but this is a tested, tried and proven way to produce dynamite smoke.
From seed to first 7 days only water, only. Easy to burn the end of those new leaves and stunt growth. Do Not Recommend, 0 stars.

Cost is minimal using MB with the other 2 and none of the liquid ferts I know of come in powder so you pay for the water.
As you can see MB us very versatile in catering to the needs of plants of different ages and kinds.
I've been growing in it 5+ years after a lifetime of soil in the ground, in the garden, under trees back in the day and even soil pots in a closet early 80's. That grow cost me as much as a pound and didn't produce more than a few ounces
Today I got big bags of somke, all the time

I just finished last fert, used almost 7 gallons of full strength in the garden, that's about 20 gallons when used 3 x's a day and almost 4 gallons in the greenhouse of a 3 oz mix so 10-12 gallons a day for 30-34 gallons total a day. I use to do 5 x's a day when i had both greenhouses on auto. Story for another day

Ya wanna grow big plants fast coco and hydro nutes rock.

 

[Putthataway]

northern lights is another people dont reazlize how old it is, its a super oldschool afghan thing, that genotype is like 50 years old its not going to give you dense commercial style modern buds.


When you buy northern lights from europe you get OG genotypes.

When you buy skunk from europe you get offshoots of the exodus cheese lineage, which was skunk #1, but nevil only ver had a single male plant of it. Use your imagination there lol. Same with NL, he only ever had a male, and OG females. And the originals were gone before anyone was even claiming to have it stable over there lol.

Having a plant that grew from a seed doesnt mean its what it was labeled, and those goes doubly so for euro breeders claiming to have oldschool USA F1 clone only and specific genetics from over 50 years ago originally, that were gone commercially before the dutch even knew what they were, and the one's who did were only ever given males, on purpose lmao.

By nevil's reign in the 1980s, the diutch already had a reputation for both stealing, and lying about genetics, and thats a legacy Nevil himself carried on too. Most the cannabis world, including myself until not too long ago, was under the impression Nevil's haze was the original. Nope, nevil only ever managed to beg borrow and plea to get a male of that one too, at least according to the people who actually originated the lineages. Even nevil's haze is just a stable hybrid of the original haze. Nevils afghan, the mazar plant? That was collected by Captain Jack and nevil just took the credit on that one too. Yo ucannot trust anything from a dutch seedbank that isnt a dutch lineage lol.

Which are basically none, even the legendary "dutch kush" is just OG kush stolen and rebranded, at least according to DNA tests it is. Its not even a hybrid, its just modern california OG kush, same as their northern lights. The entire dutch cannabis breeding industry is built on rebranding the work of american breeders, thats why they *dont work together on projects at all anymore*. At least according to the old heads deep in the industry.

 

[closettrapper217]

Here's what I should've posted and will add to my coco growing post
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I have two 1gal bottles for each of the three nutes and rotate as needed. Only 3 shown here, the other 3 are on the floor of the greenhouse in the shade.
To each bottle, filled 3/4 full of tap water I add:
#1 78 gms of Master Blend
#2 38 gms epsome
#3 78 gms calcium #3
to each bottle and fill the remainder of the bottle with tap water which is 7.0 pH and 225 carb hardness.
I have 3 one qt bottles that I use to mix the nutes into 1 gallon of fertigate. With coco you're always "fertigating" not just watering BUT you never want the coco dry out. The plant will suffer even if it's just a day or two.
This one gallon of nute water can be made weak, med and full strength by the amount of the concentrated nutrients used. 4 oz, 1/2 Cup of the 3 concentrates, and they must be mixed in order or lockout problems will occur, is the full strength amount that I give to adult plants. 1-2 oz per gallon work well for most herbs and Kratky hydro
View attachment 2446571
I grow lettuce in the winter in Kratky, and young plants 8 days old to 3 or 4 weeks old.
3 oz per gallon is what I give most plants in veg and 4 oz is a full amount designed for Tomato Plants.
It works for weed real well if properly done and that's 3-5 x's a day, completely saturate the coco coir and have 10-20% runoff and again never let to dry out.
That's a lot of waste water but this is a tested, tried and proven way to produce dynamite smoke.
From seed to first 7 days only water, only. Easy to burn the end of those new leaves and stunt growth. Do Not Recommend, 0 stars.
View attachment 2446558
Cost is minimal using MB with the other 2 and none of the liquid ferts I know of come in powder so you pay for the water.
As you can see MB us very versatile in catering to the needs of plants of different ages and kinds.
I've been growing in it 5+ years after a lifetime of soil in the ground, in the garden, under trees back in the day and even soil pots in a closet early 80's. That grow cost me as much as a pound and didn't produce more than a few ounces
Today I got big bags of somke, all the time

I just finished last fert, used almost 7 gallons of full strength in the garden, that's about 20 gallons when used 3 x's a day and almost 4 gallons in the greenhouse of a 3 oz mix so 10-12 gallons a day for 30-34 gallons total a day. I use to do 5 x's a day when i had both greenhouses on auto. Story for another day

Ya wanna grow big plants fast coco and hydro nutes rock.
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Hell yeah brother! I was sold coco and told “it’s just like soil” lol once I found to keep it wet I honestly haven’t seen an issue lol

Love it!

 

[figolus]

thats still a beautiful sativa id love to see in my garden, and yea it looks pretty damn legit, i could and would never deny that looking at it.

Youre in france right? Its weird trying to figure out if a European person's plant has the kind of skunk smell im talking about, because you guys dont have skunks, the animals, over there lol. Theres nothing in europe that smells like a skunk and most languages dont even have a word for it over there.

No, we don't have skunks in France , but the polecat, and it doesn't smell very good. I came across one... I hope I don't see one again because the smell is persistent I had the smell on me for 4 days, it was horrible, at the time my girlfriend didn't want to come anymore

Thanks you , some are very sativa-type and others more indica. I have one with a coffee smell and another with a foot smell that has macerated in its juice.

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

No, we don't have skunks in France , but the polecat, and it doesn't smell very good. I came across one... I hope I don't see one again because the smell is persistent I had the smell on me for 4 days, it was horrible, at the time my girlfriend didn't want to come anymore

Thanks you , some are very sativa-type and others more indica. I have one with a coffee smell and another with a foot smell that has macerated in its juice.

i forgot about pole cats.

Ok yea, imagine a pole cat, but 100x more intense. Its like pole cat you can smell from a quarter to a half mile away. If someone's dog got sprayed in the next neighborhood over, youre going to know about it. Thats why skun kplants are called skunks. Its genuinely an abysmally intense, fowel, skunk in a blender type of thing. It used to be everywhere here in southern appalachian mountains up until about 15 years ago. Its RANk and its intense.

the old skunk plants got people busted, filter or not, indoors or out. they smell so fowl and strong lmao. Big part of where all the original clones went. The USA federal government took am as evidence

There is no hiding what youre doing with the old skunks. you just gotta be far enough away that no one notices


If anyone remembers the "TN pot cave mega-bust" in the Appalachian foothills, it was super skunk and skunk #1 that got em busted. And that was about when it dried up here. It comes out sometimes, theres still old hippies up in the mountains with em, but their shit dont come around much these days anymore either, most of those guys are probably dying off now. When i was a kid, it wasnt the wild skunks making the entire mountain range smell like a skunk sprayed a dog the next road over all october long, thats for sure. It was them Columbian skunk-weeds. you can still occasional find the old chem smokes when a hippie up in the mountains makes a new friend too.

 

[SunshineSupergirl]

No, we don't have skunks in France , but the polecat, and it doesn't smell very good. I came across one... I hope I don't see one again because the smell is persistent I had the smell on me for 4 days, it was horrible, at the time my girlfriend didn't want to come anymore

Thanks you , some are very sativa-type and others more indica. I have one with a coffee smell and another with a foot smell that has macerated in its juice.

I've been sprayed by a skunk once in my life, I was walking in the forest at night, I spooked it, where it was sleeping, didn't see it coming..


Got all over my bag and my leg, I was homeless and camping at the time.

 

[figolus]

i forgot about pole cats.

Ok yea, imagine a pole cat, but 100x more intense. Its like pole cat you can smell from a quarter to a half mile away. If someone's dog got sprayed in the next neighborhood over, youre going to know about it. Thats why skun kplants are called skunks. Its genuinely an abysmally intense, fowel, skunk in a blender type of thing. It used to be everywhere here in southern appalachian mountains up until about 15 years ago. Its RANk and its intense.

the old skunk plants got people busted, filter or not, indoors or out. they smell so fowl and strong lmao. Big part of where all the original clones went. The USA federal government took am as evidence

There is no hiding what youre doing with the old skunks. you just gotta be far enough away that no one notices


If anyone remembers the "TN pot cave mega-bust" in the Appalachian foothills, it was super skunk and skunk #1 that got em busted. And that was about when it dried up here. It comes out sometimes, theres still old hippies up in the mountains with em, but their shit dont come around much these days anymore either, most of those guys are probably dying off now. When i was a kid, it wasnt the wild skunks making the entire mountain range smell like a skunk sprayed a dog the next road over all october long, thats for sure. It was them Columbian skunk-weeds. you can still occasional find the old chem smokes when a hippie up in the mountains makes a new friend too.

Just imagining what you just described about the skunk... I don't want to run into one

But I'd love to find some stinky old skunk. But how can I know if it's real?

I thought about trying it out with them.

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[Mikedin]

What’s up folks!

 

[figolus]

What’s up folks!

we talk about our encounters with skunks or polecat

 

[Mikedin]

I was thinking along the lines of an evolutionary defense against a critter that liked that lower level microclimate to hang out in and exploit. I've always (for the most part) liked popcorn and lower level stuff better than tops. I don't wig out about larf bc most times I tend to have a hard time sacrificing or justifying using good nugz or hash to make edibles. I'm disabled and it's quit difficult for me to do. Perfect soulution in my case.

Peeps say, it robs energy, it robs energy.... ok, so show me this 'lack of energy' in any of my plants, lmao. Last thought, I believe it doesn't really make enough of a difference to justify the time expenditure and aggravation factor of removing it (unless you enjoy doing it or you have a Donk). Biggest cons are: it restricts airflow and therefore prolly affects transpiration. Restricts light penetration. Makes it harder to spot pests and problems, molds etc. Looks shitty.


meet 'Captain Adequates' ancestor:

See that’s why I’ll strip the lower lowers once they hit the first net they usually stay

 

[Mikedin]

we talk about our encounters with skunks or polecat

Was cookin a brisket on a smoker in my old trailer back when I was trailer trash, (loved that place, neighbors brother was the president of a biker gang, they used his trailer for their meetings, they’d park in my lawn then I’d go drink with em all night good fun haha) anyways after a long day of drinkin and smokin the brisket and the wife yellin at me askin when dinner was gunna be done I get up off my drinkin stump (lot tree I cut down) and open the lid of my smoker, as I look up there’s a skunk about 4’ in front of me, I slowly closed the lid and started dragging the smoker away

Ps dinner was ready at 1am wife ate the next day

 

[figolus]

I've been sprayed by a skunk once in my life, I was walking in the forest at night, I spooked it, where it was sleeping, didn't see it coming..


Got all over my bag and my leg, I was homeless and camping at the time.