Help needed with long term problem please

[bobbin]

Well before you leave take this with you.

www.growweedeasy.com

4 hours of study on that web site and you never would have used those pots and you would know how to water a plant.
The light you have will do 2 small plants. Based on your skill level I recommend photos as you can make up for lost progress by extending veg.
4 hours make some changes come back with pics and rub it in our

Well before you leave take this with you.

www.growweedeasy.com

4 hours of study on that web site and you never would have used those pots and you would know how to water a plant.
The light you have will do 2 small plants. Based on your skill level I recommend photos as you can make up for lost progress by extending veg.
4 hours make some changes come back with pics and rub it in our faces.

I don't wish to rub anything in anyone face sir lol, i don't have a god complex

 

[cannafarmer420]

Im sorry i will try a different place, my bad, i put in my post that there was a light issue, hence stretching and now under a 150w light but no one read this ?, this problem has been going on for 2 years not because of lack of light i have many large lights....the fuggus gnats were a long while ago....as i put, ffs guys i just tring to be honest but you calling me a lair so peace out

You will fit right in on reddit

 

[RoadKillSkunkHunt]

I don't wish to rub anything in anyone face sir lol, i don't have a god complex

No one here has a god complex. What we have is experience and we're able to recognize problems like what you're experiencing. If you started growing cannabis 10 yrs ago like you claim, I sincerely doubt we would be having this discussion. The issues you are having are very common rookie mistakes. Experienced growers would have been miles beyond this weeks ago and made all corrections to avoid this out of habit ... without even thinking about it.

My proposal is simple. Drop the bullsh*t and we can help you learn to grow cannabis. Give us an attitude like you want to learn and we will help you learn. Promises!

 

[Oldchucky]

150 W of what! Incandescent, fluorescent, LED panel, and if it’s an LED panel, what is the actual wattage that it is pulling from the wall? 150 W is just a little too vague! And you could try getting a larger fabric pot with some well aerated soil and bury them up to within an inch or two where the foliage starts! Not sure it would be worth the effort, but you could try it! Good luck!

 

[bobbin]

No one here has a god complex. What we have is experience and we're able to recognize problems like what you're experiencing. If you started growing cannabis 10 yrs ago like you claim, I sincerely doubt we would be having this discussion. The issues you are having are very common rookie mistakes. Experienced growers would have been miles beyond this weeks ago and made all corrections to avoid this out of habit ... without even thinking about it.

My proposal is simple. Drop the bullsh*t and we can help you learn to grow cannabis. Give us an attitude like you want to learn and we will help you learn. Promises!

Jesus your a keeper...love thyself a, everything i put was the truth, try reading instead of typing a ? here is some pics of the things i made, im sure you will say there are shit ......you maybe right, im sure you will say im an idiot.....you maybe right, but it clearly show that you are wrong and rude a little man, fist pic veg grow bin made out of a dust bin with a usb fan and a reptile heater with a 150 w light, sec pic, my first cabinet made, 300w light with inline fan and filter, 3rd pic big cabinet 600w light inline fan filter, you can see by the rust they are old, so maybe sometimes ppl are honest, but you know best a. oh i also have a 900w light would like a pic of that as well a?, i didnt reach out before because as always a try to fix my own issue rightly or wrongly, but ppl like you you cant blame me lol .

 

[RoadKillSkunkHunt]

Jesus your a keeper...love thyself a, everything i put was the truth, try reading instead of typing a ? here is some pics of the things i made, im sure you will say there are shit ......you maybe right, im sure you will say im an idiot.....you maybe right, but it clearly show that you are wrong and rude a little man, fist pic veg grow bin made out of a dust bin with a usb fan and a reptile heater with a 150 w light, sec pic, my first cabinet made, 300w light with inline fan and filter, 3rd pic big cabinet 600w light inline fan filter, you can see by the rust they are old, so maybe sometimes ppl are honest, but you know best a. oh i also have a 900w light would like a pic of that as well a?, i didnt reach out before because as always a try to fix my own issue rightly or wrongly, but ppl like you you cant blame me lol .

What is the actual electric draw from the wall? On its label, it should state this. It doesn't look like a 900 watt light as in 900 watts of actual electricity. Another poster asked this earlier. There's a reason. There's a lot of cheap Amazon lights being sold with these misleading specs. Yours looks like one of them. The color is off. (last picture).

Anyway, all insults aside ... I'll help you if you want to learn to grow cannabis. However, if I tell you something ... don't dismiss it. I'm not always right, but when it comes to cannabis, I'm also usually not too far off. Instead, lets discuss it. I'll tell you what I know and why I'm saying the things I say. If I don't know, someone else here will surely chime in with their own experience. Someone on here has experienced these things before .... guaranteed.

 

[Oldchucky]

Hey, HerbalEdu! You wanna weigh in on this one?

 

[Ninjadogma]

Hey Bobbin sorry your having issues getting the grow to take off. There's several variables working against you and some folks have sounded off to point some of them out.

The appearance of the plants give a clue as to what's wrong. Based on plant size, you want roughly around 250 PPFD minimum hitting the top of each plant. If you have a smart phone, download the Photone app and hold it below your light and it should help you figure out what approximate distance your light should be to give them the energy they need.

Watering - make sure there is adequate oxygen for the roots, and make sure the method your using will encourage NEW root growth, not just make the existing roots happy. You do this by putting water in where there are no roots yet. Common gardening advice is to water plants at the drip line. The drip line is where water or rain that hits the leaves pools off the end tips. The roots haven't grown out to that point yet, and as the soil dries back, the moisture the roots want will be just within reach for them to extend and grab it. The goal is to make so many roots you have to prune them or up-pot your plant.

We are always watching the top half of our plant to watch it grow but if you really want your plant to grow, grow it's bottom half below the soil.

Also watch out with feeding. If you start with a good organic soil mix, you shouldn't have to feed them anything but "normal" tap water for the first two months or longer.

Wishing you the best! If you repot those and bury the stems, reposition lights and monitor watering practices, share some pics so we can follow the progress and hopefully improvements.

 

[RoadKillSkunkHunt]

Hey, HerbalEdu! You wanna weigh in on this one?

@HerbalEdu you've been called ...

 

[Ninjadogma]

@HerbalEdu you've been called ...

Oh now you've gone and done it...

 

[HerbalEdu]

well i m a tad bit clueless as to why his plant are that stunt behin 5 week old:

i would have bet on overwatering but the soil looks rather dry on the photo ...

and yeah stretching seem to indicate not enough light on start up.

 

[bobbin]

Hey Bobbin sorry your having issues getting the grow to take off. There's several variables working against you and some folks have sounded off to point some of them out.

The appearance of the plants give a clue as to what's wrong. Based on plant size, you want roughly around 250 PPFD minimum hitting the top of each plant. If you have a smart phone, download the Photone app and hold it below your light and it should help you figure out what approximate distance your light should be to give them the energy they need.

Watering - make sure there is adequate oxygen for the roots, and make sure the method your using will encourage NEW root growth, not just make the existing roots happy. You do this by putting water in where there are no roots yet. Common gardening advice is to water plants at the drip line. The drip line is where water or rain that hits the leaves pools off the end tips. The roots haven't grown out to that point yet, and as the soil dries back, the moisture the roots want will be just within reach for them to extend and grab it. The goal is to make so many roots you have to prune them or up-pot your plant.

We are always watching the top half of our plant to watch it grow but if you really want your plant to grow, grow it's bottom half below the soil.

Also watch out with feeding. If you start with a good organic soil mix, you shouldn't have to feed them anything but "normal" tap water for the first two months or longer.

Wishing you the best! If you repot those and bury the stems, reposition lights and monitor watering practices, share some pics so we can follow the progress and hopefully improvements.

Stretching is down to me being retarded, but for 8 years everything fine, fugase gnats for a bit but fine then last 2 years this, slow growth, ill looking yellow brown leaves dropping of, low yields as put in post i tried loads of different soil stuffs, tap water, bottled water, i got a ph tester, i have tried so many lights, i tried watering them all different amounts, i watered from the top i tried watering from the bottom i even water with a plastic syringe lol, this been 2 years at least, i took cutting just before trip over to flower but it would take more like 16 weeks to grow from cutting to ok size normal 8 weeks was fine, i have read so many posts and forums, 8 months ish ago i started again with fresh seeds and they grow fast as they do, when they got to about 6" and they hit a wall, took cuttng from these later on but sickly like all the rest :(, ive been looking down the path of fugal and dieseses but i dont know, i though i would post something to help maybe but everyone just put over water not enough light, i dont blame ppl as thats what it looks like and is ish lol, even tho i put in post about it but this is the internet and maybe everyone is right...ive been wrong before i will be wrong again, i will keep tring anyway and keep you posted, thank you sir for you adviice and not being a dick, good day Sir.

 

[HerbalEdu]

have previously tried neem oil and bordeaux mix,

and only neem oil applied so far and if anything it has made them worse

avoid treating seedling and too small plants with pesticide, you want the plant to be noticeably bigger for applying safely pesticides without taking the risk of burning the plant

been doing this for 10+ years

but for 8 years everything fine, fugase gnats for a bit but fine then last 2 years this, slow growth, i

that seem really weird, out of curiosity any pics of your previous successful plants ?

 

[Ninjadogma]

Stretching is down to me being retarded, but for 8 years everything fine, fugase gnats for a bit but fine then last 2 years this, slow growth, ill looking yellow brown leaves dropping of, low yields as put in post i tried loads of different soil stuffs, tap water, bottled water, i got a ph tester, i have tried so many lights, i tried watering them all different amounts, i watered from the top i tried watering from the bottom i even water with a plastic syringe lol, this been 2 years at least, i took cutting just before trip over to flower but it would take more like 16 weeks to grow from cutting to ok size normal 8 weeks was fine, i have read so many posts and forums, 8 months ish ago i started again with fresh seeds and they grow fast as they do, when they got to about 6" and they hit a wall, took cuttng from these later on but sickly like all the rest :(, ive been looking down the path of fugal and dieseses but i dont know, i though i would post something to help maybe but everyone just put over water not enough light, i dont blame ppl as thats what it looks like and is ish lol, even tho i put in post about it but this is the internet and maybe everyone is right...ive been wrong before i will be wrong again, i will keep tring anyway and keep you posted, thank you sir for you adviice and not being a dick, good day Sir.

You don't have someone in your immediate circle who doesn't want you growing, do you? Hear me out, I'll keep this short. When I was 16 I had a plant going. My mom eloped with a jarhead who didn't like slackers. We moved in with him and two weeks later my plant suddenly and mysteriously died. The fucker poured roundup on my plant. So if you're doing everything right and it's still going wrong, don't rule out sabotage if it's a possibility. Just don't go blaming a spouse if your just a shitty grower though, lol.

 

[bobbin]

You don't have someone in your immediate circle who doesn't want you growing, do you? Hear me out, I'll keep this short. When I was 16 I had a plant going. My mom eloped with a jarhead who didn't like slackers. We moved in with him and two weeks later my plant suddenly and mysteriously died. The fucker poured roundup on my plant. So if you're doing everything right and it's still going wrong, don't rule out sabotage if it's a possibility. Just don't go blaming a spouse if your just a shitty grower though, lol.

Hi ya, my cat pudding loves to eat the leafs lol she has killed a couple of cutting before but no one else around, I'm not the best grower but i use to get roughly 1oz of each plant 16 week ish, with 8 week cycle, 60 cm ish high and organic mostly, every 8 weeks ish i got 4oz ish i was a happy bunny, but that was then :(, thank you for some ideas tho, i will fix this. cheers. Bobbin

 

[bobbin]

avoid treating seedling and too small plants with pesticide, you want the plant to be noticeably bigger for applying safely pesticides without taking the risk of burning the plant



that seem really weird, out of curiosity any pics of your previous successful plants ?

Hi ya, here is some pics i found from 2019 as u can see they are not looking great , i would of taken this because of that, light burn, gnats, nut burn or nut def i dont remember but it sorted its self out....or maybe it didn't and that was early stages ?, i dont know all i know it was good then now not, gone from 1oz ish per plant (60cm) to 1/3 of that, will look for more pics but general i dont take pics if good as uk law and all that...plus im old lol.

 

[bobbin]

well i m a tad bit clueless as to why his plant are that stunt behin 5 week old:

i would have bet on overwatering but the soil looks rather dry on the photo ...

and yeah stretching seem to indicate not enough light on start up.

Hi ya, they are pushing 6 weeks and they are tiny, the lack of light total down to me, i have grown from seeds a handful of times, 99% of time cutting, dip in honey put in pot with plastic dome over the top, when rooted take of plastic dome jobs a goodie, trouble is i did the same with seedling 4 getting they are small and the dome (bottom of large plastic water bottle) means the light is 6"+ from earth/seedling, i remember looking at them thinking they look like cress......time it clicked with me they had gone mental lol , complacency on my part, rookie error.

 

[Gmix]

Hi ya, here is some pics i found from 2019 as u can see they are not looking great , i would of taken this because of that, light burn, gnats, nut burn or nut def i dont remember but it sorted its self out....or maybe it didn't and that was early stages ?, i dont know all i know it was good then now not, gone from 1oz ish per plant (60cm) to 1/3 of that, will look for more pics but general i dont take pics if good as uk law and all that...plus im old lol.

Work backwards what have you changed
For sure the plants had a light issue however you say you changed that ok I’ll believe you however what wattage is your new light / how far away
It does look like your not watering correctly
If you’re not overwatering maybe your letting them dry out to much & there sucking up nutes rather than water.

Don’t take it so personally this is an open forum & not everyone’s pulling your pants down.

I can understand why it feels like that however when someone who knows what they’re talking about tells you something and you react in a manner that they might construct differently to what you have it can lead to you feeling like everybody is picking on you when in reality then really not.

You mention ph are you feeding synthetic nutrients? Have you changed the frequency/strength of your food, maybe your trying to feed them to early/ to much it would account for them being stunted and it kind of does look your feeding schedule is out

Looks like you have a few problems light being one, maybe your food being the other & watering frequency.

Thinking about it if you’re ph-ing what is your ph

as said work backwards think about what you’ve changed

Good luck bud

 

[bobbin]

You will fit right in on reddit

Thank you for your helpful comment lol, learn to read a, who puts 420 in there name, how old are u ffs man.

 

[Galgrows]

Thank you for your helpful comment lol, learn to read a, who puts 420 in there name, how old are u ffs man.

See right there you put down and show you immaturity. What country are you from?