Help needed with long term problem please

[bobbin]

Work backwards what have you changed
For sure the plants had a light issue however you say you changed that ok I’ll believe you however what wattage is your new light / how far away
It does look like your not watering correctly
If you’re not overwatering maybe your letting them dry out to much & there sucking up nutes rather than water.

Don’t get rilled up this is an open forum & not everyone’s pulling your pants down.

I can understand why it feels like that however when someone who knows what they’re talking about tell you something and you react in a manner that they might construct differently to what you have it can lead to you feeling like everybody is picking on you when in reality then really not.

You mention ph are you feeding synthetic nutrients? Have you changed the frequency/strength of your food, maybe your trying to feed them to early/ to much it would account for them being stunted and it kind of does look like it.

Looks like you have a few problems light being one, maybe your food being the other & watering frequency.

as said work backwards think about what you’ve changed

Good luck bud

Hi again thank for your response, i can be a tad spiky lol, i have spent a lot of time on different forums, i put is straight, i lay it out as it is, but from my experience the first ones to comment are often the least knowledgeable, not a rule but when ppl dont even read what you put but then tell you you dont listen it gets annoying, but this the internet and i want it straight but some ppl do love themself a lot, but again from my experience most ppl are good ppl. I'm going to get some diffrent pots as maybe that will help as ppl have put but im not doing for a week as they are to poorly to re pot at mo, the leaves look a bit like cuttings when they rooting and that is proberly what they are doing ish maybe ? lol, no nuts at moment but again have tried 3 diffrent types over last 2 years (organic no chemicals bat poo mainly i think i will check my latest one) , tried lots of nuts in case nut def, tried not much nuts coz maybe nut burn, nothing really made a diffrence, i use a water filter as the tap water is pooey, i tried ph test, changed it with lemon juces or vingar but no change and the water is ok ish ph anyway, using bottle water at mo, i will take more pics in 1 week and see how they go, not sure if there will still be 3 tho lol, thanks again for you helpful input i do appreciate the help.

 

[bobbin]

See right there you put down and show you immaturity. What country are you from?

TRIED READING before typing ffs man, its in my first post and in others, all have done is be honest & straight at least read before type please its getting old.

 

[bobbin]

See right there you put down and show you immaturity. What country are you from?

Work backwards what have you changed
For sure the plants had a light issue however you say you changed that ok I’ll believe you however what wattage is your new light / how far away
It does look like your not watering correctly
If you’re not overwatering maybe your letting them dry out to much & there sucking up nutes rather than water.

Don’t take it so personally this is an open forum & not everyone’s pulling your pants down.

I can understand why it feels like that however when someone who knows what they’re talking about tells you something and you react in a manner that they might construct differently to what you have it can lead to you feeling like everybody is picking on you when in reality then really not.

You mention ph are you feeding synthetic nutrients? Have you changed the frequency/strength of your food, maybe your trying to feed them to early/ to much it would account for them being stunted and it kind of does look your feeding schedule is out

Looks like you have a few problems light being one, maybe your food being the other & watering frequency.

Thinking about it if you’re ph-ing what is your ph

as said work backwards think about what you’ve changed

Good luck bud

Sorry and the light is 300w or 150w each veg or flower setting but it doesn't draw that from wall, about half at wall so 70 ish watts at mo, its around 8" ish away, was closer as overcompensated with led because of stretching hence slight crispyness of top leafs, had these for years always worked ok i know led get dimmer over time but i did try newer ones the same make and different makes again very little difference.

 

[TheGoldenRoad]

You don't have someone in your immediate circle who doesn't want you growing, do you? Hear me out, I'll keep this short. When I was 16 I had a plant going. My mom eloped with a jarhead who didn't like slackers. We moved in with him and two weeks later my plant suddenly and mysteriously died. The fucker poured roundup on my plant. So if you're doing everything right and it's still going wrong, don't rule out sabotage if it's a possibility. Just don't go blaming a spouse if your just a shitty grower though, lol.

All joking aside, this happens

 

[HerbalEdu]

I'm not the best grower but i use to get roughly 1oz of each plant 16 week ish

doing rather the same with my set up.

Hi ya, here is some pics i found from 2019 as u can see they are not looking great

Not at all looking good to me

It does look like your not watering correctly
If you’re not overwatering maybe your letting them dry out to much & there sucking up nutes rather than water.

seconding this may be underwatering if not overwatering but not sure at all either, also i'd be surprised you changed your watering pratice that much the last two years with young plant so that have a so much signifiant impact on growth vigor.

sure thing it does look a lot like umproper watering pratice.

but yeah like gmix said your best bet is to work backward and try to identify what changed between your last succesful grow and the next ones.

( may be the pot you start your seedling with could be contamined with something or start to degrade and it spread once you water, just a guess but that would be surpising as well)

 

[HerbalEdu]

( may be the pot you start your seedling with could be contamined with something or start to degrade and it spread once you water, just a guess but that would be surprising as well)

or the jug/can/container you use for watering

 

[bobbin]

doing rather the same with my set up.

Not at all looking good to me


seconding this may be underwatering if not overwatering but not sure at all either, also i'd be surprised you changed your watering pratice that much the last two years with young plant so that have a so much signifiant impact on growth vigor.

sure thing it does look a lot like umproper watering pratice.

but yeah like gmix said your best bet is to work backward and try to identify what changed between your last succesful grow and the next ones.

( may be the pot you start your seedling with could be contamined with something or start to degrade and it spread once you water, just a guess but that would be surpising as well)

or the jug/can/container you use for watering

Thank you for your input again, i did scrub everything down with bleach before trying again as i thought maybe fugal or diseases but the more i think about it the more i think maybe its a couple of things I'm doing or not doing, what i dont know lol, i will keep a dairy and up date as and when with pics, thanks again.

 

[cannafarmer420]

Hi again thank for your response, i can be a tad spiky lol, i have spent a lot of time on different forums, i put is straight, i lay it out as it is, but from my experience the first ones to comment are often the least knowledgeable, not a rule but when ppl dont even read what you put but then tell you you dont listen it gets annoying, but this the internet and i want it straight but some ppl do love themself a lot, but again from my experience most ppl are good ppl. I'm going to get some diffrent pots as maybe that will help as ppl have put but im not doing for a week as they are to poorly to re pot at mo, the leaves look a bit like cuttings when they rooting and that is proberly what they are doing ish maybe ? lol, no nuts at moment but again have tried 3 diffrent types over last 2 years (organic no chemicals bat poo mainly i think i will check my latest one) , tried lots of nuts in case nut def, tried not much nuts coz maybe nut burn, nothing really made a diffrence, i use a water filter as the tap water is pooey, i tried ph test, changed it with lemon juces or vingar but no change and the water is ok ish ph anyway, using bottle water at mo, i will take more pics in 1 week and see how they go, not sure if there will still be 3 tho lol, thanks again for you helpful input i do appreciate the help.

Helpful info go fuck yourself

 

[bobbin]

150 W of what! Incandescent, fluorescent, LED panel, and if it’s an LED panel, what is the actual wattage that it is pulling from the wall? 150 W is just a little too vague! And you could try getting a larger fabric pot with some well aerated soil and bury them up to within an inch or two where the foliage starts! Not sure it would be worth the effort, but you could try it! Good luck!

Thank you Sir, i need it :), this light is 300w led but pulls 140w ish from wall on full power or 70w on veg mode 70w flower mode, got others same make kingbo 300 600 900, they are far from the best but for budget lights they are ok plus i got an amazing deal on them, for my size area i believe 300w power ish is right..........so i use my 600w lol, what a world we live in :), I'm going to try some different pots next week as you suggested, i don't think they could take it now but i will top up with soil for now, thank you again for your advice.

 

[RoadKillSkunkHunt]

Thank you for your input again, i did scrub everything down with bleach before trying again as i thought maybe fugal or diseases but the more i think about it the more i think maybe its a couple of things I'm doing or not doing, what i dont know lol, i will keep a dairy and up date as and when with pics, thanks again.

You're better off using alcohol over bleach. Bleach takes a while to rinse clean and chlorine residue will kill/harm your plants. Alcohol evaporates clean.

 

[RoadKillSkunkHunt]

Thank you Sir, i need it :), this light is 300w led but pulls 140w ish from wall on full power or 70w on veg mode 70w flower mode, got others same make kingbo 300 600 900, they are far from the best but for budget lights they are ok plus i got an amazing deal on them, for my size area i believe 300w power ish is right..........so i use my 600w lol, what a world we live in :), I'm going to try some different pots next week as you suggested, i don't think they could take it now but i will top up with soil for now, thank you again for your advice.

Well, if it only pulls 140 watts from the wall, its not a 300 watt led light. This is what I was talking about. Some Amazon sellers are misrepresenting their product ... making it sound like its more powerful than it is.

Decent pots to me = fabric pots. Leave the plastic out of the mix. You'll have much better luck with fabric pots. Anywhere between 3 gallon size and 7 gallon size tend to work well for indoor growing.

 

[voltage]

Thank you Sir, i need it :), this light is 300w led but pulls 140w ish from wall on full power or 70w on veg mode 70w flower mode, got others same make kingbo 300 600 900, they are far from the best but for budget lights they are ok plus i got an amazing deal on them, for my size area i believe 300w power ish is right..........so i use my 600w lol, what a world we live in :), I'm going to try some different pots next week as you suggested, i don't think they could take it now but i will top up with soil for now, thank you again for your advice.

Kingbo 300w is a 120watt light. Which is adequate for your size grow.

 

[Ninjadogma]

Kingbo 300w is a 120watt light. Which is adequate for your size grow.

Just looked at their website, it's 120w power draw, it's supposed to be the equivalent of a 250w HPS, and according to their technical chart it only puts out 300 umols at 24 inches. Sure it'll work but no wiggle room at all for playing with distances to dial in. Those of you who have played around with smaller lights know. The smaller the light the narrower the sweet zone. And by narrower I mean the vertical distance area from the light with the ideal energy levels.

 

[RoadKillSkunkHunt]

Just looked at their website, it's 120w power draw, it's supposed to be the equivalent of a 250w HPS, and according to their technical chart it only puts out 300 umols at 24 inches. Sure it'll work but no wiggle room at all for playing with distances to dial in. Those of you who have played around with smaller lights know. The smaller the light the narrower the sweet zone.

I'll second that.

When people ask me about lighting, I tell them to get the best light they can afford. Good lights all have dimmers. The higher intensity + the dimmer gives a grower lots of options and boat loads of control. Not to mention if the light is only being run at 75-80% because that's all the light that is needed, you keep tempts down and ultimately your equipment lasts longer.

 

[Gmix]

Well, if it only pulls 140 watts from the wall, its not a 300 watt led light. This is what I was talking about. Some Amazon sellers are misrepresenting their product ... making it sound like its more powerful than it is.

Decent pots to me = fabric pots. Leave the plastic out of the mix. You'll have much better luck with fabric pots. Anywhere between 3 gallon size and 7 gallon size tend to work well for indoor growing.

I agree with most of what you say most of the time but folks have been using plastic pots for ages well years ago at least without problems you must of used them yourself before fabric pots what are you even a thing.

I don’t get on with fabric pots I find them difficult to transplant

Either way, it’s really preference like as long as your plastic pots are cleaned out it’s not gonna cause you problems

 

[Gmix]

Actually, thinking about pots if they have been in the same small pots for 5 weeks you might want to check and see if the roots are coming out of the bottom

 

[Gmix]

Sorry and the light is 300w or 150w each veg or flower setting but it doesn't draw that from wall, about half at wall so 70 ish watts at mo, its around 8" ish away, was closer as overcompensated with led because of stretching hence slight crispyness of top leafs, had these for years always worked ok i know led get dimmer over time but i did try newer ones the same make and different makes again very little difference.

Re reading 70w isn’t enough
Also being so close it’s probably responsible for the crispiness feeling at the top.

There stretching for the light & that’s not something you can fix without better lighting

You really want a better light at least 120w for veg even then I would suggest 150w

I have managed to grow fairly decent plants from start to finish with just a 150w for veg & a 200w for flower ok my yield could’ve been better,however it worked enough to get 2-1/2oz

If the heat of the light is a problem for you then maybe choose fluorescents however they’ll only work for veg

They are slower than led however I’ve managed to veg happily with them

Whichever way, I hope you can figure it out

 

[bobbin]

Re reading 70w isn’t enough
Also being so close it’s probably responsible for the crispiness feeling at the top.

There stretching for the light & that’s not something you can fix without better lighting

You really want a better light at least 120w for veg even then I would suggest 150w

I have managed to grow fairly decent plants from start to finish with just a 150w for veg & a 200w for flower ok my yield could’ve been better,however it worked enough to get 2-1/2oz

If the heat of the light is a problem for you then maybe choose fluorescents however they’ll only work for veg

They are slower than led however I’ve managed to veg happily with them

Whichever way, I hope you can figure it out

Hi again, thank you all for help and info, i find the 600w (really 240w) in flower mode the best middle ground for flower in my size box 1100x400x600 and i run the 300w in the 900x600x400 for veg and i got 150w (55w) in the dust bin for early veg, cfl for cutting, i have 900w really 400w but that i find over kill, to hot to heavy to much for my set up.
I'm going to post first dairy day today would appreciate all help input & advice, i know i can be spiky for this i apologize, i wish no one any ill will, every criticism i lay upon others i am guilty of myself.

 

[bobbin]

Re reading 70w isn’t enough
Also being so close it’s probably responsible for the crispiness feeling at the top.

There stretching for the light & that’s not something you can fix without better lighting

You really want a better light at least 120w for veg even then I would suggest 150w

I have managed to grow fairly decent plants from start to finish with just a 150w for veg & a 200w for flower ok my yield could’ve been better,however it worked enough to get 2-1/2oz

If the heat of the light is a problem for you then maybe choose fluorescents however they’ll only work for veg

They are slower than led however I’ve managed to veg happily with them

Whichever way, I hope you can figure it out

I would like some new better lights but money, i was getting 1oz ish of each plant 16 weeks organic, was happy with that but that was then, now 1/3 of that and longer time, its super pooey.

 

[Gmix]

Hi again, thank you all for help and info, i find the 600w (really 240w) in flower mode the best middle ground for flower in my size box 1100x400x600 and i run the 300w in the 900x600x400 for veg and i got 150w (55w) in the dust bin for early veg, cfl for cutting, i have 900w really 400w but that i find over kill, to hot to heavy to much for my set up.
I'm going to post first dairy day today would appreciate all help input & advice, i know i can be spiky for this i apologize, i wish no one any ill will, every criticism i lay upon others i am guilty of myself.

People react badly cause they know what there talking about & if your spiky its always gonna be hard for you & them they feel like they have you’ve given you information and it’s like they feel like you have thrown the information back in their face even if that isn’t the case.

I have a hell of a temper, mate that’s why I don’t lose my temper anymore. We each have our crosses to bear.

I can wake up wanting to kill everybody with an axe just coz they woke me up & you definitely didn’t wanna know me when I was younger hanging around hells angels.

I was lucky, mate. I could’ve gone to jail for a long long time even went on the run for two years only to find out the friggin charges had been dropped. That one was a laugh..

So I can’t understand

Anyway, as you said, start to grow diary it’s your best bet