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[Ninjadogma]

I'm of the opinion that it doesn't make enough of a difference to justify the loss in weight
and terp/resin production.

How do you flush soil? How do you account for plants in soil looking lush and green right
up until chop, with no sign of fading (senescence)? They are as nutrient laden as they can be.

Flushing is bro science that started in the hydro circles way back when imo. I say blast'em
until you chop them. Drying and curing is wayyy more important than flushing imo. Here's
from the web supporting this position:

Is Flushing Cannabis Before Harvest Necessary?​

What “flushing” means:​

Flushing typically means giving your plants only water (sometimes with enzymes or finishing agents) for the last 7–14 days before harvest. The belief is it removes excess nutrients and leads to smoother, better-tasting bud.

The Science:

1. No credible peer-reviewed studies definitively prove that flushing improves taste, aroma, or cannabinoid content.
2. Rx Green Technologies(a respected cannabis nutrient company) ran a blind test in 2020:
   • They grew cannabis under controlled conditions, flushing for 0, 7, and 14 days.
   • Result: No significant difference in taste, aroma, or smoothness based on chemical analysis or blind taste panels. In fact, the unflushed plants often scored higher in flavor and THC content.

Source: Rx Green Technologies Flushing Trial PDF

Bro Science Origins:​

Flushing is rooted more in hydroponic culture and the idea of “salt buildup,” which can be a real issue in overfed or poorly managed systems. But in modern, dialed-in systems with proper EC control? Flushing is likely unnecessary.

TL;DR Summary:​

Topic	Science-Backed?	Verdict
Flushing before harvest	Mostly bro science	Not necessary in clean systems
Plants prefer organics	They can't tell	NPK is NPK at the root level

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You’re better off focusing on:

• Proper EC/pH control
• Finishing your plants strong
• Drying/curing correctly — this affects taste more than flushing ever will.

Never held back nutes at then end... well actually that's not true because I've done drought stress the last week to try and boost final resin production. I had been only running two phenos so it was easier to track, and I didn't notice a difference in resin production but it did seem to mellow out the taste in the jar about a month earlier than it normally would.

 

[Florida_Mike]

Never held back nutes at then end... well actually that's not true because I've done drought stress the last week to try and boost final resin production. I had been only running two phenos so it was easier to track, and I didn't notice a difference in resin production but it did seem to mellow out the taste in the jar about a month earlier than it normally would.

Right on.

I'm curious what @Mikedin has to say, now that he's been
around the block and has more data sets than anyone.
Should be interesting.

 

[Ninjadogma]

Less airflow most likely.
Always have indirect wind when you’re hanging and drying if your stuff is drying too fast and you’re in a tent take it out of the tent in my opinion the way that I score the best is to stay around that 70° no higher than 80 by God with indirect airflow Point your fans up at the ceiling or something and if you’re below 62% relative humidity for extended periods then you need to introduce some type of humidity to your situation. I’ve taken my plants into the bathroom with me when I shower and leave them hanging in there while the humidity dissipates if it’s too dry for too long. the longer you can keep everything towards 62% relative humidity and no hotter than 75° the better I always shoot for 70° at 62% as long as humanly possible and it’s the same thing that I do in the jar as long as the air is moving in your room or area you dry in you’ll be fine. You don’t have to see your plants rocking in the wind from airflow in your drying section.

62% is everything

Thats part one of my recipe for smooth tasty weed even from a less than optimum run. Get it dried right, then three quick burps daily for a month straight, a daily burp the second month, and 10 minute burps once a week the third month. For your taste test at the end of month three, load a bong and just give it a quick kiss of the lighter.

I've done the Grove bag cure. It holds the smell deliciously.., Opened that bag 2 months later and it was pure Durban cat piss in there waiting for me. But I dunno, to me it doesn't smooth the burn on the back of the throat as good as the pain the ass jar burping does. Just my personal observation.

 

[Ninjadogma]

Right on.

I'm curious what @Mikedin has to say, now that he's been
around the block and has more data sets than anyone.
Should be interesting.

Was gonna try splitting a stalk this season on one plant and drill holes in another. Strain will probably be Ice Cream Cake, I made a few extra clones of her to fuck around this year and take some notes and it'll all be the same pheno for me to compare.

 

[JIMKSI64]

I totally stop feeding food before I harvest my food.
See when you say it out loud it's stupid.

 

[Captspaulding]

Was gonna try splitting a stalk this season on one plant and drill holes in another. Strain will probably be Ice Cream Cake, I made a few extra clones of her to fuck around this year and take some notes and it'll all be the same pheno for me to compare.

I use a drill, dude it’s so much easier cleaner less stressful when you’re doing it and has the same exact result, I practice it on the regular It’s a lot easier than starving. Your plant at the end too.

 

[cannafarmer420]

I use a drill, dude it’s so much easier cleaner less stressful when you’re doing it and has the same exact result, I practice it on the regular It’s a lot easier than starving. Your plant at the end too.

If nothing else it seems to work for cap, his bud is

 

[cannafarmer420]

Anyone ever had purple trics?

Yea I have no idea where the pics are, probably on an old thread or in the cloud . But anyways yea space panda had purple trichs on it for me

 

[TexasMade]

Less airflow most likely.
Always have indirect wind when you’re hanging and drying if your stuff is drying too fast and you’re in a tent take it out of the tent in my opinion the way that I score the best is to stay around that 70° no higher than 80 by God with indirect airflow Point your fans up at the ceiling or something and if you’re below 62% relative humidity for extended periods then you need to introduce some type of humidity to your situation. I’ve taken my plants into the bathroom with me when I shower and leave them hanging in there while the humidity dissipates if it’s too dry for too long. the longer you can keep everything towards 62% relative humidity and no hotter than 75° the better I always shoot for 70° at 62% as long as humanly possible and it’s the same thing that I do in the jar as long as the air is moving in your room or area you dry in you’ll be fine. You don’t have to see your plants rocking in the wind from airflow in your drying section.

62% is everything

Thank you my good sir! Do those PBR crosses get tall? Imma try lst this time.

 

[BB22]

Hope everyone is well tonight

Sharing my grow

Helmet head going through it

 

[closettrapper217]

Good question, I personally go based on time and how the flower is developing! Around week 6-7 I’ll be inspecting them and the fatter ones with more orange hairs I’ll start nothing but water for the next 2 weeks then darkness to really get the last juice from them!
If the plants are looking a little smaller on the nug side, OR more white pistils, I typically wait 1-2 more weeks of light nutrients, I’ve noticed this really does help flavor!

Yeah early on in growing I watched a video with this scientist looking guy talking about how flushing isn’t needed blah blah being such an easy thing to try side by side with two different plants of the same strain I had a noticeable difference so I was sold on it for sure. But also at the same time I’ve been dialing in my whole drying curing process so maybe that’s what it was idk anymore lol

What is wild to me is how there is such polarizing opinions on the subject lol you guys definitely flipped my lid once again lol

 

[BB22]

I grow in soil. Salt nutrients. I don’t “flush”.

I do try and give straight water for the last two cycles . I’ve noticed an improvement

 

[closettrapper217]

I grow in soil. Salt nutrients. I don’t “flush”.

I do try and give straight water for the last two cycles . I’ve noticed an improvement

This is what I mean by flushing at the end of flower.

I guess it just seems to be yet another one of those things that no one will ever agree on and whatever works for you in your grow is what’s best.

Every time ya think ya got it all figured out. lol

 

[BB22]

This is what I mean by flushing at the end of flower.

I guess it just seems to be yet another one of those things that no one will ever agree on and whatever works for you in your grow is what’s best.

Every time ya think ya got it all figured out. lol

I always thought “Flushing” was some dramatic thing that indoor growers did to their indoor plants.

 

[Berniemac]

Yeah early on in growing I watched a video with this scientist looking guy talking about how flushing isn’t needed blah blah being such an easy thing to try side by side with two different plants of the same strain I had a noticeable difference so I was sold on it for sure. But also at the same time I’ve been dialing in my whole drying curing process so maybe that’s what it was idk anymore lol

What is wild to me is how there is such polarizing opinions on the subject lol you guys definitely flipped my lid once again lol

I'm of the opinion that it doesn't make enough of a difference to justify the loss in weight
and terp/resin production.

How do you flush soil? How do you account for plants in soil looking lush and green right
up until chop, with no sign of fading (senescence)? They are as nutrient laden as they can be.

Flushing is bro science that started in the hydro circles way back when imo. I say blast'em
until you chop them. Drying and curing is wayyy more important than flushing imo. Here's
from the web supporting this position:

Is Flushing Cannabis Before Harvest Necessary?​

What “flushing” means:​

Flushing typically means giving your plants only water (sometimes with enzymes or finishing agents) for the last 7–14 days before harvest. The belief is it removes excess nutrients and leads to smoother, better-tasting bud.

The Science:

1. No credible peer-reviewed studies definitively prove that flushing improves taste, aroma, or cannabinoid content.
2. Rx Green Technologies(a respected cannabis nutrient company) ran a blind test in 2020:
   • They grew cannabis under controlled conditions, flushing for 0, 7, and 14 days.
   • Result: No significant difference in taste, aroma, or smoothness based on chemical analysis or blind taste panels. In fact, the unflushed plants often scored higher in flavor and THC content.

Source: Rx Green Technologies Flushing Trial PDF

Bro Science Origins:​

Flushing is rooted more in hydroponic culture and the idea of “salt buildup,” which can be a real issue in overfed or poorly managed systems. But in modern, dialed-in systems with proper EC control? Flushing is likely unnecessary.

TL;DR Summary:​

Topic	Science-Backed?	Verdict
Flushing before harvest	Mostly bro science	Not necessary in clean systems
Plants prefer organics	They can't tell	NPK is NPK at the root level

---

You’re better off focusing on:

• Proper EC/pH control
• Finishing your plants strong
• Drying/curing correctly — this affects taste more than flushing ever will.

Interesting to read, preciate it, gonna look more into this. I’ve gone compost tea or nutrients till the end and I do feel a bit harsher greener taste on the back of the throat, but could be lots of things… maybe I’m a sucker and got got so I wouldn’t get fatter thicker buds ! lolololol
It was the cia maaaaaaaannnnnn

 

[Berniemac]

Yeah early on in growing I watched a video with this scientist looking guy talking about how flushing isn’t needed blah blah being such an easy thing to try side by side with two different plants of the same strain I had a noticeable difference so I was sold on it for sure. But also at the same time I’ve been dialing in my whole drying curing process so maybe that’s what it was idk anymore lol

What is wild to me is how there is such polarizing opinions on the subject lol you guys definitely flipped my lid once again lol

I think because there are lots of factors and variables involved it’s hard to really say what the culprit is for taste and aroma. Especially when we all tweak little things here and there!

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

Pb4 x haymeadow definitely have some beautiful structured leaves also beasts in veg. They are bullying all of the other strains around them out of the way in my little veg setup. For sure

I actually culled two I thought were males now I’ve weeded down to these three to flower out here in a few weeks.

Heads up, the peaceblasters are calcium nitrate sensitive, and usually get a bit shiny like that if they're getting too much of it for their taste. Not sure why it makes em shiny, they can get SUPER dark with urea and ammonia and go N tox before they get shiny. They go into N-tox with a comparably smaller amount of nitrate vs ammonia or urea too. For who knows why. They get that from the Columbian pure sativa. The Mexican pure sativa don't like cal-nitrate either.

Also an F1 with the hay meadow purps which doesn't mind cal nitrate one bit so some will prob have the cal-nitrate sensitivity more than others.

I don't recall if I told you about the piece Blaster calcium nitrate thing or not yet. But it's a thing, so heads up lmao. They also go calcium deficient super easily in containers in flower, and don't like micro climates at all either. The Columbian dominant PB phenos will def have fine lines indoors. Interestingly enough tho, outdoors in-ground they're like the easiest least picky plants ever

I think it's because modern highly selectively inbred genotypes have been inadvertently selected to be good at separating the calcium-nitrogen bond by default because they were bred out and selected indoors almost exclusively and everyone was using it for calcium.

They eat up calcium bicarbonate and calcium phosphate just fine.


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Back on that late night porn thing again

Psychedelic Banjo. She's expressing the same way she did outdoors. Loving the extra extended deep red. (A lot)

Haymeadow Purps

Psychedelic Banjo x Haymeadow Purps

Peaceblaster 3 she has some transpiration stress hang nails from a bit ago, but she's thriving and stacking like a beast

 

[Putthataway]

 

[Captspaulding]

You are probably on to something, this guy’s still rocking a pair almost three years after getting him. He’s an indoor cat, so we aren’t too worried about it. You know what they say: Bob works in mysterious ways. View attachment 2456618

That grill piece doggie!!!
Handsome bloke you are

 

[Captspaulding]

Only 102 here today

Man, I really chalk it all up to the fucking humidity on top of the heat and I’ve gone out to my trailer before with my thermal gun dude and 160° at the peak of the day is not out of the fucking ordinary when the trailer is closed up, I’m usually out there at 8 AM opening everything up because I hate my car sitting there cooking like that. It’s absolutely insane in that thing sometimes if it’s below 50% outside in terms of the humidity, it’s totally manageable, but you start getting into the 75% range and it just in my opinion makes the feels like temp ratchet up to a person by person sensitivity type of situation