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Went from healthy to not looking good in about 5 days

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Went from healthy to not looking good in about 5 days

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Hey all first time grower here appreciate any and all advice. She is about 6 weeks old I’ve been rotating feed/water/feed with general hydroponics flora grow 2-1-6 and cal/mag for 2 weeks now she looked fantastic until about 5-6 days ago getting blotchy yellowing in some of the older fan leaves and the new growth is went from lime green which I believe is normal but now they are more yellow. Flushed her 3 days ago tested ph of flushed water it was at 6.99
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That line youre using is a tripart. Youre lacking 2 liquids that are also used in veg along with flora grow

Also try to keep the ph at 6,2-6,5. 7 is too high for synthetics, you will have problems with nute absoption.
 
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To be precise this is your chart
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Also a picture would help determine other problems if any but I think its just mostly that youve only been using one part of a tripart and as soon as they depleted the nutes from the soil they got hungry.
 
Thank you. Yeah I had the water for the flush ph at 6.1 then after the flush it came out to about 7. She was also starting to look how she is before the flush. I agree the flush probably stressed her and why she is looking a little worse. I will definitely pick up those other 2 nutes of the flora series. Judging by the blotches I’m leaning more towards magnesium deficiency but of course this all new judgment for me
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Thank you. Yeah I had the water for the flush ph at 6.1 then after the flush it came out to about 7. She was also starting to look how she is before the flush. I agree the flush probably stressed her and why she is looking a little worse. I will definitely pick up those other 2 nutes of the flora series. Judging by the blotches I’m leaning more towards magnesium deficiency but of course this all new judgment for me
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It looks like you're still in veg. Put the cal-mag away for a bit. It's going to become a source of issue in your soil grow. During veg, there's not a very strong likely-hood that you have a calcium issue. Calcium is usually well represented in any professional potting mix. Adding extra calcium to your soil during veg, especially in soil, is a recipe for calcium lockout of other elements ... like Magnesium and Potassium. So for now, use epsom salts at 1 teaspoon per gallon with your feed. Once you've changed your light schedule to 12/12 and see your plants starting to stretch, then add the cal-mag back into the feed schedule. If you're running autos your queue for adding calcium is at bud formation/stretch. Photos, to be more specific, add the calcium back in between week 2 and 3 of 12/12.

Next, see the leaf curl and how the tips are pointing down? That's a sign of root stress. What is your watering routine? How much, how often .... and most important is your reasoning behind your watering schedule. I'm not convinced it's a watering issue yet, but I'm also not convinced it isn't one either.

To be precise this is your chart
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Also a picture would help determine other problems if any but I think its just mostly that youve only been using one part of a tripart and as soon as they depleted the nutes from the soil they got hungry.

Last - see the chart above suggested by @Eledin? Purchase the flora micro and the flora gro just as he suggested. It's a tri-part. It's intended to be used as 3 different bottles at varying amounts. The chart he posted is only the aggressive feed. It's supposed to be fine-tuned to a soil grow. I use the aggressive schedule but I've been growing for a while and I know what to look for so I have a good idea how hard to push my plants. Newer growers should go easy on nutrients ... like 50% less to start. With GH Flora, you could also switch to one of their other feed schedules. At the end of my post here I will provide you with the whole chart for all 3 growing styles.

I ran into a guy who was convinced that he should be using the GH Flora series - Lotus plan the other day. That plan eliminates the micro gro. GH doesn't recommend only using parts of the program. If you're only using one bottle because someone told you so ... please don't do that. You'll find yourself having trouble at some point with that approach.

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Much appreciated! I have one of those soil wetness meters I check it when the top soil is looking dry. Stick it in and if it’s still reading moist to wet I’ll wait a couple days and check again. Once it starts getting closer to dry in the reading then I’ll water. When I do water it’s been an upped to a liter for the last 2 1/2 weeks, was about half a liter prior. Then Also it’s photo not auto. And no one told me to use just the one nute, was just totally unaware the 3 were to be used with each other.
 
Update just noticed some brown spotting on the leaves and they are rapidly looking more wilted
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Much appreciated! I have one of those soil wetness meters I check it when the top soil is looking dry. Stick it in and if it’s still reading moist to wet I’ll wait a couple days and check again. Once it starts getting closer to dry in the reading then I’ll water. When I do water it’s been an upped to a liter for the last 2 1/2 weeks, was about half a liter prior. Then Also it’s photo not auto. And no one told me to use just the one nute, was just totally unaware the 3 were to be used with each other.

Fair enough, welcome to the farm! We'll help you out. I use a moisture meter too and I'm an old grizzled veteran of many grows. I look forward to seeing you around.
 
What is your soil mix? Roots aren't happy and in your case, I'm not quite sure why yet. Fill us up with details please ...
Sadly soil was the one overlook I had in starting this whole thing it’s just a basic garden soil from ace hardware, no perlite. Only plus out of it I’ve seen from it so far is that it’s not getting outrageously compacted from watering at least in the top 3-4 inches. I will keep that loose and airy by hand day or so after watering to try and avoid compaction, but hard to say what’s happening down at the roots my guess is you’re initial thought on root rot might be the case. that mistake on shit soil was probably the worst one to make. I am able to run and get some fox farm I believe they had the ocean forest blend and one other one with the microbes incorporated, just not sure if a transfer at this point would be too much for her. The plant is misty Kush x lemon fire OG
 
Sadly soil was the one overlook I had in starting this whole thing it’s just a basic garden soil from ace hardware, no perlite. Only plus out of it I’ve seen from it so far is that it’s not getting outrageously compacted from watering at least in the top 3-4 inches. I will keep that loose and airy by hand day or so after watering to try and avoid compaction, but hard to say what’s happening down at the roots my guess is you’re initial thought on root rot might be the case. that mistake on shit soil was probably the worst one to make. I am able to run and get some fox farm I believe they had the ocean forest blend and one other one with the microbes incorporated, just not sure if a transfer at this point would be too much for her. The plant is misty Kush x lemon fire OG
I have plenty more seeds so if she’s gotta go then she’s gotta go, but if she can be saved that would be great
 
Sadly soil was the one overlook I had in starting this whole thing it’s just a basic garden soil from ace hardware, no perlite. Only plus out of it I’ve seen from it so far is that it’s not getting outrageously compacted from watering at least in the top 3-4 inches. I will keep that loose and airy by hand day or so after watering to try and avoid compaction, but hard to say what’s happening down at the roots my guess is you’re initial thought on root rot might be the case. that mistake on shit soil was probably the worst one to make. I am able to run and get some fox farm I believe they had the ocean forest blend and one other one with the microbes incorporated, just not sure if a transfer at this point would be too much for her. The plant is misty Kush x lemon fire OG

I don't think you have root rot. I think your soil pH might be out of line. Here's why ... unless "getting dry" to you when you use your moisture meter means watering when its halfway between wet and dry, you're probably not off by too much with your watering practices. I'd also see more brown and necrotic tissue unless this is very sudden and that part hasn't developed yet. I'm gonna call @Grownsince95 to get some fresh eyes on this.

Edit: Your plant does look hungry. We could be over-thinking this. It probably simply needs a balanced diet.
 
I don't think you have root rot. I think your soil pH might be out of line. Here's why ... unless "getting dry" to you when you use your moisture meter means watering when it’s halfway between wet and dry, you're probably not off by too much with your watering practices. I'd also see more brown and necrotic tissue unless this is very sudden and that part hasn't developed yet. I'm gonna call @Grownsince95 to get some fresh eyes on this.
Yeah this is all within the last 5-6 days started with new growth getting yellow then about 2 days ago fan leaves started getting blotchy and just noticed some small brown spots on fan leaves today so it just started turning but it’s declining quickly
 
Yeah this is all within the last 5-6 days started with new growth getting yellow then about 2 days ago fan leaves started getting blotchy and just noticed some small brown spots on fan leaves today so it just started turning but it’s declining quickly
We may be over-thinking this ... before we jump through too many hoops, lets give it a balanced diet. Go ahead and purchase the other 2 bottles of the Flora series.
 
I don't think you have root rot. I think your soil pH might be out of line. Here's why ... unless "getting dry" to you when you use your moisture meter means watering when its halfway between wet and dry, you're probably not off by too much with your watering practices. I'd also see more brown and necrotic tissue unless this is very sudden and that part hasn't developed yet. I'm gonna call @Grownsince95 to get some fresh eyes on this.

Edit: Your plant does look hungry. We could be over-thinking this. It probably simply needs a balanced diet.
Oh and I wait till it’s almost to dry but still in the moist when watering again
 
Oh and I wait till it’s almost to dry but still in the moist when watering again
Here's a picture of my moisture meter. I have a bunch all over the house and greenhouse lol. I water when the meter is between the 3 and 4 so if its at 3, water. If its at 4, water ... if its at 4.5 wait ...

Moisture meter
 
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