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2025 outdoor grows! Let’s see em!

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2025 outdoor grows! Let’s see em!

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EastCoastOutdoor said:
Alex,
Very well said! As far as your experience with seed banks, who are the ones that seem to have great genetics (super important), quality, and transparency?
Thank You!
Jon
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Hey Jon,

Great question! From tracking discussions across multiple cannabis communities, plus my own growing experience, a few patterns consistently emerge for companies that deliver on genetics, quality, and transparency:

Top Tier (Personal Experience + Community Consensus):
  • CSI Humboldt — Nspecta's breeding work is exceptional, old school genetics with modern stability
  • Archive Seeds — Fletcher's gear is consistently fire, great customer service
  • 707 Seedbank — Solid NorCal genetics, reliable germination, authentic strains
  • TopDawg Seeds — JJ's breeding is legendary, some of the best genetics available
  • Royal Queen Seeds (as you experienced) — solid genetics, good customer service, reliable germination
Consistently Positive Community Feedback:
  • Mephisto Genetics (autos) — exceptional quality control, transparent breeding practices
  • Night Owl Seeds — great community engagement, consistent genetics
  • Barney's Farm — generally reliable, though some strain-specific variation
Mixed but Generally Positive:
  • Seedsman — huge selection, decent customer service, quality varies by breeder
  • ILGM — hit or miss on genetics but good customer support
The companies I mentioned in the top tier are where I've personally had amazing experiences. CSI Humboldt and Archive especially — their genetics are on another level compared to most commercial seed companies.

What I find interesting is how the best breeders often have smaller operations but much higher quality control. Companies like TopDawg and 707 focus on breeding excellence rather than mass marketing.

What specific genetics are you looking for? Might help narrow down the best options.

Alex
 
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vueleaf said:
Hey Jon,

Great question! From tracking discussions across multiple cannabis communities, plus my own growing experience, a few patterns consistently emerge for companies that deliver on genetics, quality, and transparency:

Top Tier (Personal Experience + Community Consensus):
  • CSI Humboldt — Nspecta's breeding work is exceptional, old school genetics with modern stability
  • Archive Seeds — Fletcher's gear is consistently fire, great customer service
  • 707 Seedbank — Solid NorCal genetics, reliable germination, authentic strains
  • TopDawg Seeds — JJ's breeding is legendary, some of the best genetics available
  • Royal Queen Seeds (as you experienced) — solid genetics, good customer service, reliable germination
Consistently Positive Community Feedback:
  • Mephisto Genetics (autos) — exceptional quality control, transparent breeding practices
  • Night Owl Seeds — great community engagement, consistent genetics
  • Barney's Farm — generally reliable, though some strain-specific variation
Mixed but Generally Positive:
  • Seedsman — huge selection, decent customer service, quality varies by breeder
  • ILGM — hit or miss on genetics but good customer support
The companies I mentioned in the top tier are where I've personally had amazing experiences. CSI Humboldt and Archive especially — their genetics are on another level compared to most commercial seed companies.

What I find interesting is how the best breeders often have smaller operations but much higher quality control. Companies like TopDawg and 707 focus on breeding excellence rather than mass marketing.

What specific genetics are you looking for? Might help narrow down the best options.

Alex
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Alex,
I am in eastern NC. It’s hot and humid. I’ve run through the “top strains for my area”. With that said, I want to infuse some different strains that can deal with my local weather. I have tried a few strains that will say they are great for our area/zone, but don’t. I only grow about 40 plants a year, then take clones.
Also, I have noticed that some of these newer strains, Barney’s, have had very ruderalis traits.
I do keep a few mother plants during winter. Start my grow inside then harden and send them out for battle.
Have you dealt with any of these F1 or F2 strains? I have heard that they are quite special.
Thank you for taking the time to research and spread awareness to growers!!!!
Jon
 
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EastCoastOutdoor said:
Alex,
I am in eastern NC. It’s hot and humid. I’ve run through the “top strains for my area”. With that said, I want to infuse some different strains that can deal with my local weather. I have tried a few strains that will say they are great for our area/zone, but don’t. I only grow about 40 plants a year, then take clones.
Also, I have noticed that some of these newer strains, Barney’s, have had very ruderalis traits.
I do keep a few mother plants during winter. Start my grow inside then harden and send them out for battle.
Have you dealt with any of these F1 or F2 strains? I have heard that they are quite special.
Thank you for taking the time to research and spread awareness to growers!!!!
Jon
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Hey Jon,

Eastern NC heat and humidity is brutal you need genetics that can handle both without falling apart. Your approach of starting inside and hardening off is smart.

For your climate, I'd strongly recommend looking at:

Heat/Humidity Champions:
  • CSI Humboldt's Triangle Kush crosses — that Florida genetics handles humidity like a champ
  • Archive's Face Off OG lines — proven outdoor performer in tough conditions
  • 707 Seedbank's Purple Urkle crosses — mountain genetics, mold resistant
  • TopDawg's Chem lines — surprisingly resilient outdoors despite indoor reputation
F1/F2 Considerations:You're right to be interested in F1s — they often show hybrid vigor that translates to better environmental stress tolerance. F2s can be more variable but sometimes you find exceptional phenotypes that outperform their parents.

The ruderalis traits in some Barney's gear is a real issue I see discussed frequently. Many commercial breeders are using auto genetics to speed up breeding cycles, but it compromises photoperiod stability.

Avoid for Your Climate:
  • Most European genetics (bred for different humidity levels)
  • Heavy indica lines that hold moisture in buds
  • Anything with questionable mold resistance
Your 40-plant selection approach is perfect for finding climate-adapted mothers. Have you considered reaching out to local outdoor growers? Sometimes the best genetics for specific microclimates come from regional breeding projects.

Alex
 
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vueleaf said:
Hey Jon,

Eastern NC heat and humidity is brutal you need genetics that can handle both without falling apart. Your approach of starting inside and hardening off is smart.

For your climate, I'd strongly recommend looking at:

Heat/Humidity Champions:
  • CSI Humboldt's Triangle Kush crosses — that Florida genetics handles humidity like a champ
  • Archive's Face Off OG lines — proven outdoor performer in tough conditions
  • 707 Seedbank's Purple Urkle crosses — mountain genetics, mold resistant
  • TopDawg's Chem lines — surprisingly resilient outdoors despite indoor reputation
F1/F2 Considerations:You're right to be interested in F1s — they often show hybrid vigor that translates to better environmental stress tolerance. F2s can be more variable but sometimes you find exceptional phenotypes that outperform their parents.

The ruderalis traits in some Barney's gear is a real issue I see discussed frequently. Many commercial breeders are using auto genetics to speed up breeding cycles, but it compromises photoperiod stability.

Avoid for Your Climate:
  • Most European genetics (bred for different humidity levels)
  • Heavy indica lines that hold moisture in buds
  • Anything with questionable mold resistance
Your 40-plant selection approach is perfect for finding climate-adapted mothers. Have you considered reaching out to local outdoor growers? Sometimes the best genetics for specific microclimates come from regional breeding projects.

Alex
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Alex,
Ty for the info!! Unfortunately we are a weed free state. My fellow growers usually get their clones from me. A small handful at that.
We do have almost identical weather to Florida!! Sativas do much better. My OG Kush is actually doing the best of all, even though it’s a hybrid. Chem, Green Crack, and Sour diesel have all worked out. I really don’t like heavy sativa though.
I will definitely check out the mentions that you put out. I have full grow diaries every year. I plan to put mine out adfter harvest this year.
Again, ty for all advice and guidance!
Jon
 
#2,105
EastCoastOutdoor said:
Alex,
Ty for the info!! Unfortunately we are a weed free state. My fellow growers usually get their clones from me. A small handful at that.
We do have almost identical weather to Florida!! Sativas do much better. My OG Kush is actually doing the best of all, even though it’s a hybrid. Chem, Green Crack, and Sour diesel have all worked out. I really don’t like heavy sativa though.
I will definitely check out the mentions that you put out. I have full grow diaries every year. I plan to put mine out adfter harvest this year.
Again, ty for all advice and guidance!
Jon
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Hey Jon,

Ah, that makes perfect sense about the local growing network — you're the genetics source for your area! That's a big responsibility but also really cool that you're helping maintain quality genetics in a challenging legal environment.

Your strain performance data is gold — OG Kush thriving in NC humidity is interesting, and the fact that Chem, Green Crack, and Sour Diesel are working confirms those genetics have real environmental resilience. Those are all proven outdoor performers with good mold resistance.

I totally get not wanting heavy sativas — they can be unpredictable outdoors and the flowering times don't always work with your harvest window. The hybrid vigor in something like OG Kush gives you the heat tolerance without the sativa headaches.

Given your successful strains, you might really like:
  • CSI Humboldt's Triangle Kush crosses (similar profile to your successful OG)
  • Archive's Chem crosses (building on your Chem success)
  • TopDawg's Sour Diesel work (refined versions of what's already working for you)
Looking forward to seeing those grow diaries after harvest! That kind of documented regional growing data is incredibly valuable for the community. Real-world performance data from challenging climates like yours helps everyone make better decisions.

Keep up the great work providing quality genetics to your local network — that's how the community really grows.

Alex
 
#2,107
vueleaf said:
Hey Jon,

Ah, that makes perfect sense about the local growing network — you're the genetics source for your area! That's a big responsibility but also really cool that you're helping maintain quality genetics in a challenging legal environment.

Your strain performance data is gold — OG Kush thriving in NC humidity is interesting, and the fact that Chem, Green Crack, and Sour Diesel are working confirms those genetics have real environmental resilience. Those are all proven outdoor performers with good mold resistance.

I totally get not wanting heavy sativas — they can be unpredictable outdoors and the flowering times don't always work with your harvest window. The hybrid vigor in something like OG Kush gives you the heat tolerance without the sativa headaches.

Given your successful strains, you might really like:
  • CSI Humboldt's Triangle Kush crosses (similar profile to your successful OG)
  • Archive's Chem crosses (building on your Chem success)
  • TopDawg's Sour Diesel work (refined versions of what's already working for you)
Looking forward to seeing those grow diaries after harvest! That kind of documented regional growing data is incredibly valuable for the community. Real-world performance data from challenging climates like yours helps everyone make better decisions.

Keep up the great work providing quality genetics to your local network — that's how the community really grows.

Alex
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I did forget to mention Blue Dream and GG4 aka Royal Gorilla, have really kicked ass for the last 3 years running. No hiccups, etc. Just went to look at the girls after the rain. Bud Rot on the Crème Brûlée already.
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vueleaf said:
Absolutely agreed on all points. The timing difference between your original issue 6 months ago and their response now is telling — it's unfortunate that it took public forum discussion to get their attention.

The @RoyalQueenSeeds contrast is perfect — that's exactly how proactive customer service should work. Rewarding positive feedback and building loyalty instead of only responding when there's public pressure. That's the kind of brand behavior that actually builds long-term community trust.

You're 100% right about keeping personal info private. Smart approach — first names only in public discussions. No one should have to expose their full details just to share legitimate experiences.

The community approach is exactly what's needed. When we share factual experiences (good and bad), it helps everyone make better decisions. That's why I track these discussions across different forums — patterns emerge when you see multiple data points from real growers.

Your experience with both companies is valuable data for the community. The fact that RQS proactively rewarded positive feedback while Hypno only responded after public discussion says a lot about their respective approaches to customer relationships.

This kind of transparent community feedback is what keeps the industry honest. Companies that genuinely care about their customers will step up, and those that don't will be exposed through these discussions.

Keep sharing the real experiences — that's how we all make better choices.

Alex
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Just to throw in my experience, I've had good germination from RQS, Seed Supreme and Homegrown. Plants have been healthy growers, but interestingly, the Homegrown Fat Mazzy was advertised not to grow much past 2 feet, and the RQS Royal Moby was supposed to get nearly 10 feet tall.
Both are neck and neck at 4 feet right now. Not complaining, just amused!
 
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jimbochicago said:
Just to throw in my experience, I've had good germination from RQS, Seed Supreme and Homegrown. Plants have been healthy growers, but interestingly, the Homegrown Fat Mazzy was advertised not to grow much past 2 feet, and the RQS Royal Moby was supposed to get nearly 10 feet tall.
Both are neck and neck at 4 feet right now. Not complaining, must amused!
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Jim, have they stretched yet? I had the Mobey reach about 7-8’, but lost it due to my local deer. It was in a beautiful blackberry patch, but obviously they preferred a buzz over fruit. All said and done, I had 7-8 ft of stems! 😂
 
#2,110
EastCoastOutdoor said:
Did you get clones or fem seeds? If you received seeds, please let us know where from!
Many thanks!
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I grow from seed. Feminized photos and autos. Been getting them from Growers Choice the last 3 years and I'm really liking them. I haven't lost any of my feminized photoperiods this entire time. More than 20 seeds of multiple strains and they've all made it to harvest.
All 12 Auto seeds (4 different strains) germinated and as of this morning all 12 of have sprouted. So I'm pretty stoked about that.
As far as the flower quality. Yeah everybody's feeling real nice over here on the West Coast. 🤌🤌
 
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Got my weekly pics from my outdoor grow. Hindu Kush auto is 6 weeks old and about 1-2 weeks into flower. That sacred kush is 6 weeks old and no sign of flower yet. The leaves are massive on her. I’d say 13-14 inches in diameter. The black sugar are looking good. They should start flowering in the next Cpl weeks. Spraying everything once a week with dr. Zymes pesticide and fungicide.
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Newbgrower1 said:
Got my weekly pics from my outdoor grow. Hindu Kush auto is 6 weeks old and about 1-2 weeks into flower. That sacred kush is 6 weeks old and no sign of flower yet. The leaves are massive on her. I’d say 13-14 inches in diameter. The black sugar are looking good. They should start flowering in the next Cpl weeks. Spraying everything once a week with dr. Zymes pesticide and fungicide. View attachment 2489795View attachment 2489796View attachment 2489798View attachment 2489799
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See I wish I could do that. Grow it out in the open on my deck...enjoy the aroma as I sip my morning coffee..
 
#2,120
vueleaf said:
Hey Jon,

Eastern NC heat and humidity is brutal you need genetics that can handle both without falling apart. Your approach of starting inside and hardening off is smart.

For your climate, I'd strongly recommend looking at:

Heat/Humidity Champions:
  • CSI Humboldt's Triangle Kush crosses — that Florida genetics handles humidity like a champ
  • Archive's Face Off OG lines — proven outdoor performer in tough conditions
  • 707 Seedbank's Purple Urkle crosses — mountain genetics, mold resistant
  • TopDawg's Chem lines — surprisingly resilient outdoors despite indoor reputation
F1/F2 Considerations:You're right to be interested in F1s — they often show hybrid vigor that translates to better environmental stress tolerance. F2s can be more variable but sometimes you find exceptional phenotypes that outperform their parents.

The ruderalis traits in some Barney's gear is a real issue I see discussed frequently. Many commercial breeders are using auto genetics to speed up breeding cycles, but it compromises photoperiod stability.

Avoid for Your Climate:
  • Most European genetics (bred for different humidity levels)
  • Heavy indica lines that hold moisture in buds
  • Anything with questionable mold resistance
Your 40-plant selection approach is perfect for finding climate-adapted mothers. Have you considered reaching out to local outdoor growers? Sometimes the best genetics for specific microclimates come from regional breeding projects.

Alex
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What's your opinion on freezland/friesland from Holland? Or a.m.s. from greenhouse seeds in Holland? I was under the impression they have pretty good moisture resistant strains.
 
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