O.G. TRIPLOID 30-40% THC (4th Attempt)

[Nobody.Special]

So, when I began growing, I wanted to try one of Humboldt Seed Co.'s "Triploid" seeds.

For those that don't know what a Triploid is, I'm not botanist, but it is somehow blending a third strand of DNA into the mix. (Standard DNA is diploid or two strands) This is safe, as EVERY seedless fruit or vegetable you've ever eaten is most likely a Triploid. Bananas for sure, every banana you have eaten is a Triploid. The advantage to Triploid seeds is that, while they are sterile, and can't be fertilized, their flowers and fruits grow larger, and sweeter, more potent.

The downside of this is the seeds are expensive, and temperamental. They are prone to genetic anomalies during the grow. As a result, I have just germinated my 4th attempt at seeing an O.G. Triploid make it out of the veg stage. My goal is to harvest 1 pound or more from this plant. That's a big claim, and would be 25% larger than anything I've grown before. So I invite people to either watch me make an ass out of myself, or have a VERY merry Christmas (Curing predicted to finish 12/16!)

So, this is an O.G. Triploid. It is an Autoflower. And it popped its head above ground today. Humboldt's product page makes a big deal about 40% THC. The actual seed packet says that these seeds consistently perform at 30%, but can reach 40% THC in ideal conditions. I am sure that includes CO2, which I can't access, The plant is in a 4.5 x 2.5 x 7.5 tent, lights are on 20 hours per day, and will remain so throughout the grow. I am using Lotus Nutrients, and will be using my own aggressive schedule of them.

I won't update this journal every day, but definitely at least weekly. According to my notes, "Project 40" began on May 16, here's hoping that the 4th time is the charm!
Meet Kendra, on her birth day:

 

[Oldchucky]

So, when I began growing, I wanted to try one of Humboldt Seed Co.'s "Triploid" seeds.

For those that don't know what a Triploid is, I'm not botanist, but it is somehow blending a third strand of DNA into the mix. (Standard DNA is diploid or two strands) This is safe, as EVERY seedless fruit or vegetable you've ever eaten is most likely a Triploid. Bananas for sure, every banana you have eaten is a Triploid. The advantage to Triploid seeds is that, while they are sterile, and can't be fertilized, their flowers and fruits grow larger, and sweeter, more potent.

The downside of this is the seeds are expensive, and temperamental. They are prone to genetic anomalies during the grow. As a result, I have just germinated my 4th attempt at seeing an O.G. Triploid make it out of the veg stage. My goal is to harvest 1 pound or more from this plant. That's a big claim, and would be 25% larger than anything I've grown before. So I invite people to either watch me make an ass out of myself, or have a VERY merry Christmas (Curing predicted to finish 12/16!)

So, this is an O.G. Triploid. It is an Autoflower. And it popped its head above ground today. Humboldt's product page makes a big deal about 40% THC. The actual seed packet says that these seeds consistently perform at 30%, but can reach 40% THC in ideal conditions. I am sure that includes CO2, which I can't access, The plant is in a 4.5 x 2.5 x 7.5 tent, lights are on 20 hours per day, and will remain so throughout the grow. I am using Lotus Nutrients, and will be using my own aggressive schedule of them.

I won't update this journal every day, but definitely at least weekly. According to my notes, "Project 40" began on May 16, here's hoping that the 4th time is the charm!
Meet Kendra, on her birth day:
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I grew it last year outdoors! Photo! Wasn’t a huge difference in looks and it came out pretty potent! Early flowering! By a few weeks! I was happy with it, and I think it was worth the extra bucks! At least to give it a try!

 

[voltage]

1lb from An auto and 30-40% thc?

 

[Oldchucky]

HSC didn’t have auto last year! They are new!

 

[Nobody.Special]

I grew it last year outdoors! Photo! Wasn’t a huge difference in looks and it came out pretty potent! Early flowering! By a few weeks! I was happy with it, and I think it was worth the extra bucks! At least to give it a try!

I just had to sacrifice a foot tall one. It was covered in early buds on every millimeter of tiny branch and stem. It made me sick to kill it. It's the main reason I'm aiming for a pound instead of 12 ounces.

 

[Nobody.Special]

1lb from An auto and 30-40% thc?

They have 1 auto now, they had 1 photo last year. They now have 5 or 6 photos on their site.

Credit to Humboldt, their customer service stepped up and replaced my mutated seeds. They gave me two bad seeds, but replaced them with 3 seeds for $10 shipping. No complaints.

 

[Oldchucky]

As of last year, it wasn’t recommended to grow the photos indoors! I guess people were having problems with them indoors! But indoor growers are always having problems! But maybe more with the triploid than usual! I would expect autos to be grown indoors!

 

[Nobody.Special]

So, I will address the first three failures.

The very first failure, was almost certainly of my own doing. Although, I have no idea how I did it. But I tried to germinate two seeds, and neither one germinated. Different strains, the only commonality is me. I didn't hold that one against Humboldt when I eventually contacted them.

Attempt number two actually germinated in 30 hours from putting it in the bucket, until it's head was above ground. But that was it. Every fan leaf was a mutated thing that died immediately upon contact with the air. The cotyledons lived over a month until I gave up, and let the third plant have a go:

I had intended this plant to be named Kendra from the start! So, now I'm reusing it. Hopefully it's not a curse, it's not like the real Kendra ever brought me any luck!

So, after the first Kendra died, came Kaylee. Kaylee germinated in less than two days as well. And she didn't get super tall, super fast, but she grew a root 18" long into the water within 10 days, and I was stoked. Big roots mean giant plants, and these were the biggest ever at that age in my experience. But she never grew tall. I don't typically stretch a plant, but I tried it with her, and nothing. I pulled her off the bucket last week, and the bottom of the bucket had like 35-40 feet of roots in it, but where it entered the net basket, it was just that one single root fiber that grew immediately after germination. It grew 10 1/4 inches tall and no more. Here's a pic two weeks before sacrifice.

Expect to see burned leaves and probably even some yellow spots on this plant too. As Chuckie Darwin said, plants and animals adapt! And my plant is gonna have to adapt to a very rich cocktail of nutrients and tons of "sun" from an early age. That plant above started developing buds two weeks earlier than any plant that I have grown before. I'm not a super experienced grower, but 7 autoflowers, and one photo. This plant ultimately climbed about 2 more inches from this pic, but it simply couldn't get enough nutrients into its main stem to thrive.

 

[Nobody.Special]

As of last year, it wasn’t recommended to grow the photos indoors! I guess people were having problems with them indoors! But indoor growers are always having problems! But maybe more with the triploid than usual! I would expect autos to be grown indoors!

I wouldn't know why to buy an Auto except to grow inside. I grow 20 on 4 off for the entire grow. I'm like Montgomery Burns, F the sun!

The very nature of the Triploid technique leaves the plant prone to mutation as the DNA essentially has to make choices that it otherwise wouldn't. Anybody that grows them will find them to be tricky, and I wouldn't recommend ANYBODY try one (photo or auto) unless they have a couple years under their belt.

If this one fails, NY next germination will be one of the Pineapple OG that is currently becoming tincture as I write.

 

[Oldchucky]

I guess you just keep after it! I didn’t notice any big difference in the process compared to regular photos when growing outdoors in soil! Pretty sure this was it from October of last year! Pretty much a standard plant! Maybe a little woody! October 30! Just before chop!

 

[Nobody.Special]

I guess you just keep after it! I didn’t notice any big difference in the process compared to regular photos when growing outdoors in soil!

I think that, ultimately, a lot of the "40%" and "Ultra-high" and stuff is just marketing BS. Yeah, this plant can get UP TO 40%, but anything above 30% is a bonus on me. And even then, if you are talking about outdoor growing, so many environmental factors figure into the equation that any prediction is just spitting in the wind.

The marketing hype is derived from sterile grows in hyperbaric chambers. And even if I had the money for a $5 million grow room, where would I put the damn thing? lmao While I am obsessed with growing one of these plants, the next time I buy seeds, I will be more focused on terpene profile than the raw THC level.

The terpenes are what drive all of weed's secondary effects. Delta-9 THC is an intoxicant like alcohol (but not at all like alcohol), but things like couch lock vs. energy have far more to do with the way the weed smells than whether or not it's a Sativa or Indica.

 

[Nobody.Special]

I guess you just keep after it! I didn’t notice any big difference in the process compared to regular photos when growing outdoors in soil! Pretty sure this was it from October of last year! Pretty much a standard plant! Maybe a little woody! October 30! Just before chop!View attachment 2498165

So dark and rich!

 

[closettrapper217]

I know this has nothing to really to with your post but triploids are the future of commercial marijuana growing and a lot of colleges that have hemp programs are doing a lot of research on it. Most vegetables you buy at a grocery stores are triploids nowadays. There is some pretty cool podcasts about it if you search you can find but the problem is you never know if a triploid is carried to a seed in the next generation unless you have your plant tested for it. so I imagine if you popped a bunch of these things you could find some super vigorous stuff but it isn’t as simple as popping one or two seeds.

Also the reason that plant failed is because you have it a name WAAAAYYYY too early lol

 

[Oldchucky]

Triploid‘s are manufactured! They are sterile! Wasn’t anything complicated about growing it! If you create a tetraploid by treating a diploid with colchine or whatever it’s called, then cross the diploid with the tetraploid all of the seeds will be triploid! Like you said, it is a common practice! In other vegetables! I don’t imagine you grow seedless watermelon much different than regular watermelon!

 

[Nobody.Special]

I know this has nothing to really to with your post but triploids are the future of commercial marijuana growing and a lot of colleges that have hemp programs are doing a lot of research on it. Most vegetables you buy at a grocery stores are triploids nowadays. There is some pretty cool podcasts about it if you search you can find but the problem is you never know if a triploid is carried to a seed in the next generation unless you have your plant tested for it. so I imagine if you popped a bunch of these things you could find some super vigorous stuff but it isn’t as simple as popping one or two seeds.

Also the reason that plant failed is because you have it a name WAAAAYYYY too early lol

For sure they are. Especially with big commercial farms. The ability to grow larger yields on the same nutes really increases profit margins.

I wrote it under a different thread, but I recently went to my local cannabis store (only been open for 7 weeks), and looked over the prices of stuff. Then, came home and ran the numbers on the 10.5oz plant (Pineapple OG) that just finished curing. NYS, with tinctures charges 11.6 cents per mg. The tincture currently cooking from 1 plant has a value according to the Cannabis Control Board of $3918. The entire plant, as I broke it up has a value of over $5,000 (plus tax!). It cost me about $199.50 to grow.

Once people realize how easy it is to grow weed indoors or out, a lot of stores in NY will go bust.

 

[Nobody.Special]

Triploid‘s are manufactured! They are sterile! Wasn’t anything complicated about growing it! If you create a tetraploid by treating a diploid with colchine or whatever it’s called, then cross the diploid with the tetraploid all of the seeds will be triploid! Like you said, it is a common practice! In other vegetables! I don’t imagine you grow seedless watermelon much different than regular watermelon!

Yes, and no. Some of the temperamental behavior of the plant can be attributed to my aggression. But creating genetic deviations in any cell make that cell more prone to mutation. Having a third strand of DNA allows sequences to be mismatched. Imagine if you had a third DNA strand, and your body was coding your eye color. It isn't simply two bonds that get joined to say "blue" it might be 20, or 200. I don't know, and am too lazy to look.

But imagine that while your DNA was trying to create "blue" for your eyes, but matched a few chemicals from the third strand rather than pulling everything from the strand containing "blue." Your DNA would have mutated, but would your eyes be green, blind, or have cat's pupils, that would depend on which bonds got switched out and what information got switched in.

The simple fact that a third DNA strand exists, means that it is prone to mutation. More so than a diploid.

However, for a competent grower, you are almost certainly right, there is little difference between the two types of seeds overall.

 

[Oldchucky]

Yes, and no. Some of the temperamental behavior of the plant can be attributed to my aggression. But creating genetic deviations in any cell make that cell more prone to mutation. Having a third strand of DNA allows sequences to be mismatched. Imagine if you had a third DNA strand, and your body was coding your eye color. It isn't simply two bonds that get joined to say "blue" it might be 20, or 200. I don't know, and am too lazy to look.

But imagine that while your DNA was trying to create "blue" for your eyes, but matched a few chemicals from the third strand rather than pulling everything from the strand containing "blue." Your DNA would have mutated, but would your eyes be green, blind, or have cat's pupils, that would depend on which bonds got switched out and what information got switched in.

The simple fact that a third DNA strand exists, means that it is prone to mutation. More so than a diploid.

However, for a competent grower, you are almost certainly right, there is little difference between the two types of seeds overall.

Wouldn’t have to worry about knocking anybody up! I guess that explains why seedless watermelon is so difficult and unpredictable to grow! Lol there are a lot of triploid fruits and vegetables in use nowadays! They can’t be very unpredictable! A quick Google search will turn up a shit load! It sure isn’t anything new! But it is pretty rare to occur naturally! And like you said the only way to know for sure is through lab testing when you think something might be triploid naturally!

 

[Galgrows]

I love spitting watermelon seeds LOL

 

[KG1]

looking at it they really oversold this strain... Where's the ploidy?

 

[closettrapper217]

Looks more like a halfloid if you ask me lol