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[TestTime]

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That picture got forwarded to my wife at work. She's a nurse. She's got to make really important decisions. She is one of the most stressed people in existence when she is at work. People live and die every second based on what she thinks and does. But she is going to be laughing her ass off in a second. Thanks. I've never forwarded a picture to my wife at work before. This was a first.

 

[ChairmanFester]

She’s stretchin nice just ending week 2 in another 2 days she’s filing in nice too

Looks like she’s liking the 2nd round in the living soil, same pot I ran the Frostette in last run too so I’ll really be able to see how she varies from new soil to re-amended rerun

I'm just adding touches of Great White, I gotta get tuned to this living soil craft. I think it did make some difference with columbian, but not NL5 because it's simply a fucked plant, I'll flower it out just because it's amends for that stumble/root damage. Day 1 waiting on an apple fritter auto to pop for my stopgap grow. I have the bag all primed when it decides to pop; using a shot glass of high mix perlite and a little vermiculite to retain moisture right at the seed. This should slip right out and into soil and be a nice root starter spot.

 

[TestTime]

She’s stretchin nice just ending week 2 in another 2 days she’s filing in nice too

Looks like she’s liking the 2nd round in the living soil, same pot I ran the Frostette in last run too so I’ll really be able to see how she varies from new soil to re-amended rerun

I discovered they don't need to stretch. Any of them. Doesn't matter if it was sativa or indica or hybrid. They don't have to stretch. You can keep them short and fill them out. No wasted space for those fucking light rays to go through.

Nah, I'm not obsessive. I'm not pulling a Scotty. I'll tell you right off the bat how to save the day and never stretch again.

Blast them with 10 times as much fucking light as you think it's safe out in the final week and then flip those lights. They're not going to look for any more light. They're going to say mother fucker, I got enough, no need to stretch, no competition, just put out buds.

Really. It works.

 

[ChairmanFester]

That picture got forwarded to my wife at work. She's a nurse. She's got to make really important decisions. She is one of the most stressed people in existence when she is at work. People live and die every second based on what she thinks and does. But she is going to be laughing her ass off in a second. Thanks. I've never forwarded a picture to my wife at work before. This was a first.

Grandmother and aunt were career nurses, tough gig.
How much classroom biology do they do versus practical application now?

 

[ChairmanFester]

AI's opinions on plants storing energy:
"Short version: plants don’t “bank” ATP. They bank carbon.


Think of it like this:

• ATP = pocket cash. It’s made and spent constantly, seconds to minutes. Plants don’t store ATP long-term—it’s too reactive.
• Savings account = carbs and oils. Extra photosynthesis gets parked as starch, sugars, and sometimes oils (triacylglycerols).

Where it actually goes:

• Starch (most common):
  • Day: made in chloroplasts of leaves and stacked like little “pantry” granules.
  • Night: withdrawn and burned to keep metabolism running.
  • Long-term starch: packed into amyloplasts in storage tissues (e.g., potatoes, roots, some stems).
• Sugars (sucrose mostly):
  Shipped in the phloem to “sinks” (growing tips, roots, flowers, fruits/buds). Vacuoles can stockpile soluble sugars and organic acids.
• Oils (“fats”):
  Stored as oil bodies (oleosomes), especially in seeds and some fruits (sunflower, canola, olive, avocado). Super energy-dense, great for fueling germination. Leaves can make and use lipids, but they rarely hoard them the way seeds do.
• Protein (less common as a fuel store):
  Some seeds stash storage proteins to feed seedlings later.

Nifty side notes for the grow tent crowd:

• Leaves will often be starch-rich late in the light period and starch-poor before lights-on—that’s normal. If nights are too short or plants are stressed, starch can accumulate and mess with sugar signaling.
• Seeds are where you’ll see real “fat.” Cannabis seeds are oily; buds mostly use carbon to build cell walls, terpenes, and cannabinoids (those aren’t energy stores—they’re “chemical bling”).

If you ever want to see it: pluck two leaf bits—one at end of “day,” one before lights-on—drop in diluted iodine (Lugol’s). The darker blue/black stain = more starch. Old-school, dead simple, kind of fun.


Bottom line: Plants don’t store extra ATP; they convert surplus light energy into starch, sugars, and sometimes oils, then tap those reserves later."

Stuff to ponder... plants don't quite bank fat like a seal.

 

[TestTime]

A few things may save you a lot of time:
Generally the vibe is pro-liberty, in a proto-libertarian Ron Paul kinda way. But we don't live and die by it and we post personal politics in other places. You may want to focus on things which aren't predictably friction points. We're I think variously "faithful" even if it's to an old Jorge Cervantes how-to or a motor sport or something... but some are catholic, jewish, hindi, whatever. Text of faiths doesn't exactly flow with the vibe.
As far as me: I'm not Chairman of anything, it's an old DOS game reference. "Monkey Island" series in-joke. I advocate for the personal ownership of plutonium, and advise reading the OSHA manual. I don't want to turn my own guns into machine guns; I can't afford the ammo. I want you to be able to do so if you so wish and aren't under 18, adjucated insane, or a felon, i.e. "not a citizen".

GODDAMN LAZY FUCKING POTHEAD FUCKS!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ (lol)

Very nice.

I played Monkey Island on my first 486. It cost me $5,000 and it took me about 3 months to work it off. It was from my first consulting gig. I was programming a publishing company's Sun workstation using C and Oracle in those days as well as building my own 50 user Sco Xenix back ends.

But at home I had a 486. It was my first own computer. Before that moment everything was borrowed from work. Since the 8086.

I played it with my 3-year-old son sitting in my lap. We spent a couple of years playing Monkey Island.

Enjoy your childhood Monkey Island memories. That music is seared in my brain along with my kid's laughter.

There was another game there then that we explored physics and we had a couple of mice that would talk to you and we would build these various machines. It might have been called incredible machine.

One of those mice was a little asshole and he would deadpan at you:

Oh joy, oh heartfelt elation.

Deadpan. He might as well have been dead saying it. I've used that phrase in that look many times in my life.

 

[TestTime]

A few things may save you a lot of time:
Generally the vibe is pro-liberty, in a proto-libertarian Ron Paul kinda way. But we don't live and die by it and we post personal politics in other places. You may want to focus on things which aren't predictably friction points. We're I think variously "faithful" even if it's to an old Jorge Cervantes how-to or a motor sport or something... but some are catholic, jewish, hindi, whatever. Text of faiths doesn't exactly flow with the vibe.
As far as me: I'm not Chairman of anything, it's an old DOS game reference. "Monkey Island" series in-joke. I advocate for the personal ownership of plutonium, and advise reading the OSHA manual. I don't want to turn my own guns into machine guns; I can't afford the ammo. I want you to be able to do so if you so wish and aren't under 18, adjucated insane, or a felon, i.e. "not a citizen".

GODDAMN LAZY FUCKING POTHEAD FUCKS!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ (lol)

And I'm a felon. I fall into the category of other with you.

But no politics. No obvious friction points.

 

[ChairmanFester]

"Felon" is not the end of an ideal lol. You can petition for restoration, weapon rights go all the way down to "better have been laying around and you're in legit danger" so US anyways all of that is out.
However.
You can't totally hate the noble opposition; so your work arounds are pocket gimmicks and illegal junk blackpowder pistols. Id' just tell you it's not legal and practically bad and then post some links to buy them. That's the extent of my "care" for law-abiding.

I wouldn't mind hashing out the energy banking you describe with light, how's that work? I suppose the cave man lipid test would be able to tell.

 

[JIMKSI64]

And I'm a felon. I fall into the category of other with you.

But no politics. No obvious friction points.

Hey Test Time. I find that the limited audience of a pot blog is a poor place for spirited political debate. I hang out on The Burning Platform and have actually submitted a few articles one of which went national on zerohedge and got 300k views and 15k responses.
Not for the faint of heart and you also come in contact with weirdos and rascist but it is serious unfiltered discours with no one limiting your ability to hang your ass out.

 

[TestTime]

Grandmother and aunt were career nurses, tough gig.
How much classroom biology do they do versus practical application now?

Real nurses? RNs? They live by the book and kill the patients by the book. They are taught to analyze, to step back, to not make snap decisions. They're taught to be smart. Take another minute. Don't do the wrong thing.

Bang. Patient dead.

They will know exactly what killed the patient. God damn it. They are smart.

LPN watching from behind. Counting the seconds, counting the breaths, watching the color. Understanding that that patient needs atropine that exact moment, but they're not getting it and they're about to die. A horrible fucking death.

LPN marches in and shoves the real nurse out of the way and does whatever it takes to save that patient. There could be blood or sputum spewing, the urine and shit is everywhere. Most of them are 300 lb plus morbidly obese filled with sores and they aren't helping, They're fighting. This is some mind-boggling horrible shit going on.

The LPN takes care of business. The patient lives to suck down resources for another day. Or the patient lives to recover from their hip replacement surgery and goes home. Either way the patient lives.

Depending on the RN, the RN might scream at the LPN for getting involved. Or the RN might thank the LPN and explain to her.

She's taught to analyze, not act.

Most people aren't going to be dying while she's analyzing. But she doesn't know which ones. The LPN does.

My wife was an LPN for 20 years when she went back to school and took all the RN education classes and was about to graduate and then they told her she'd have to take an 80% pay cut because she went from being a 20-year LPN to a 0-year RN. Give up your LPN license. You can't be both at the same time. Give up your license. Starve.

Fuck you very much. She's still paying off of those student loans. No RN. She is far far better in every goddamn direction. LPN.

The LPN profession is going away. Oh well. Try not to need a person to save you when it matters.

 

[TestTime]

"Felon" is not the end of an ideal lol. You can petition for restoration, weapon rights go all the way down to "better have been laying around and you're in legit danger" so US anyways all of that is out.
However.
You can't totally hate the noble opposition; so your work arounds are pocket gimmicks and illegal junk blackpowder pistols. Id' just tell you it's not legal and practically bad and then post some links to buy them. That's the extent of my "care" for law-abiding.

I wouldn't mind hashing out the energy banking you describe with light, how's that work? I suppose the cave man lipid test would be able to tell.

You speak as if you know. Maybe you do. I'd rather have 10,000 lb combination steel and concrete crush the asshole who ended up in the wrong hallway then think about any explosive devices. I've got spinning wheels of death beyond compare all over this place. I'm a metal worker. I'm a woodworker. I sharpen up rebar spikes on the lathe. I have a compressor ready to push an air hammer. They make for a very pretty welding holder tools. Felon's got to be creative. You really have no idea what felony means in the concept of restoration. Such silliness.

I have access to excellent lawyers. My excellent lawyers have gone through the information. There's no restoration of anything and it really doesn't matter. I'm old enough and set enough not to care.

 

[ChairmanFester]

"Restoration" is a "milage may vary" situation. I'm pretty narrow to weapons on laws I study in detail but I've seen sample petitions that worked. If it's not possible well, there is just being a fraction of a citizen so adjust?
Liking explosive is coincidental, I actually like logistics. It's just that explosives do such a great job at storing and transporting energy to where it needs to go and if you happen to live in that particular mudhut on that day, um... think about how exciting being converted into energy can be! I have a video of a guy trying to fire a found RPG-12 (I think or RPG-7) and going from standing to horizontal mid air faster than a digital camera captures, and barely a foot from his original position. Just think of the forces that happened there. After that he had a terrible time but for a minute...

 

[TestTime]

"Felon" is not the end of an ideal lol. You can petition for restoration, weapon rights go all the way down to "better have been laying around and you're in legit danger" so US anyways all of that is out.
However.
You can't totally hate the noble opposition; so your work arounds are pocket gimmicks and illegal junk blackpowder pistols. Id' just tell you it's not legal and practically bad and then post some links to buy them. That's the extent of my "care" for law-abiding.

I wouldn't mind hashing out the energy banking you describe with light, how's that work? I suppose the cave man lipid test would be able to tell.

And I'm not really sure what you meant by end of an ideal. And the LOL was brutal. Beyond compare.

You listed a bunch of things you didn't like and then you said I.e: felon.

Words and punctuation actually count and I try to read for content and allow for typos so I'm not sure what the you were trying to say.

You look on from the up on high view point. It's a wonderful place to be. I don't know what you do for a living. Do you speak to people? Do you type in a computer? Do you have access to any records whatsoever of any person be it financial or medical or their car repair history? Could anything having to do with your income be impacted by a checkbox that says? Are you a felon?

99% of jobs are off limit to me. And every other felon. We are in underclass that you can't possibly imagine.

And your generalized thought process includes lol.

 

[TestTime]

AI's opinions on plants storing energy:
"Short version: plants don’t “bank” ATP. They bank carbon.


Think of it like this:

• ATP = pocket cash. It’s made and spent constantly, seconds to minutes. Plants don’t store ATP long-term—it’s too reactive.
• Savings account = carbs and oils. Extra photosynthesis gets parked as starch, sugars, and sometimes oils (triacylglycerols).

Where it actually goes:

• Starch (most common):
  • Day: made in chloroplasts of leaves and stacked like little “pantry” granules.
  • Night: withdrawn and burned to keep metabolism running.
  • Long-term starch: packed into amyloplasts in storage tissues (e.g., potatoes, roots, some stems).
• Sugars (sucrose mostly):
  Shipped in the phloem to “sinks” (growing tips, roots, flowers, fruits/buds). Vacuoles can stockpile soluble sugars and organic acids.
• Oils (“fats”):
  Stored as oil bodies (oleosomes), especially in seeds and some fruits (sunflower, canola, olive, avocado). Super energy-dense, great for fueling germination. Leaves can make and use lipids, but they rarely hoard them the way seeds do.
• Protein (less common as a fuel store):
  Some seeds stash storage proteins to feed seedlings later.

Nifty side notes for the grow tent crowd:

• Leaves will often be starch-rich late in the light period and starch-poor before lights-on—that’s normal. If nights are too short or plants are stressed, starch can accumulate and mess with sugar signaling.
• Seeds are where you’ll see real “fat.” Cannabis seeds are oily; buds mostly use carbon to build cell walls, terpenes, and cannabinoids (those aren’t energy stores—they’re “chemical bling”).

If you ever want to see it: pluck two leaf bits—one at end of “day,” one before lights-on—drop in diluted iodine (Lugol’s). The darker blue/black stain = more starch. Old-school, dead simple, kind of fun.


Bottom line: Plants don’t store extra ATP; they convert surplus light energy into starch, sugars, and sometimes oils, then tap those reserves later."

Stuff to ponder... plants don't quite bank fat like a seal.

And AI said my plant can't exist.

Interesting world you live in.

 

[ChairmanFester]

And I'm not really sure what you meant by end of an ideal

I laugh at the idea that it's some "end of the story" like life follows any script. Felons legally are part citizens, in a class lacking some consents like the insane or children (and that is the end of the similarity). As such, rights aren't available or are modified to a degree. That's it, the detachment you're getting is because of age and experience, I'm human and it's been difficult and I am shaped by that among other things. I remove a step before thinking or speaking in the defensive if you like.
I did 20 years highway work and got injured so my entire day is child, plants, and house care. Aside from some mini-capitalism ventures.

I trust AI to sort out places to read up on, it's Ian Malcolm's notion of "thin-telligence".

 

[PlumberSoCal2]

 

[PlumberSoCal2]

Tomorrow is the big day

Solo Cup Christmas Tree Grow 2025

Talking about Christmas in July? Yup, as we'll be starting this crazy grow end of next month so now's the time to start talking about it, planning and getting ready. Who wants to grow a Christmas Tree Cannabis plant this year in a Solo cup? Who thinks they can do it? Let's see. Start date...

www.thcfarmer.com

but I must share that I had a heck of a time getting seeds to pop last year and it took me 2 weeks to get going so even if you miss the start day it's not a big deal

 

[Mikedin]

I discovered they don't need to stretch. Any of them. Doesn't matter if it was sativa or indica or hybrid. They don't have to stretch. You can keep them short and fill them out. No wasted space for those fucking light rays to go through.

Nah, I'm not obsessive. I'm not pulling a Scotty. I'll tell you right off the bat how to save the day and never stretch again.

Blast them with 10 times as much fucking light as you think it's safe out in the final week and then flip those lights. They're not going to look for any more light. They're going to say mother fucker, I got enough, no need to stretch, no competition, just put out buds.

Really. It works.

Yes 100%! My average stretch is about a foot, I’ve done full scrogs in 2x2x2 tents (yes it was fun lol)

Preparation is everything if you know what your final should look like you can time the flip to be perfect, I’ve found a drier soil bed during “stretch” results in minimal stretch, heavy watering in stretch phase intensifies the amount they stretch

Audditionally you can increase your reds right at flip (add supplemtal if needed) that’ll also encourage more compactness if you can keep the blue out during that phase or at least to a minimum


A lot of people are scared of the stretch, I love it, it’s where I set up my canopy to fill in blank spots in the scrog, Sven out the colas so they’ll get even airflow and light distribution etc

Everything is a tool if used correctly

 

[PlumberSoCal2]

Thanks things were extra complicated due to the brand new Milwaukee kit that I bought having defective batteries and a shit charger. Almost had to resort to hand tools. now I gotta go return this shit at Home Depot, thank god I had back up tools View attachment 2512192was really looking forward to having some new tools, but not if they’re broken out of the box!

I don't know about their cordless but back in the day i bought a new Sawzal. Put it through hell and it lasted 10 years for $200. The day it died I got a $20 Harbor Freight POS that ended up lasting 3 years so bought another, ect.

If I had stayed a carpenter I would only be using their tools today, unless this became a common problem. Wife and I both own red Milwaukee tees from our local plumbing shop and I got a $300 set of Ryobi cordless 18 watt years ago and as a plumber happy with their tools. Got one of their corded circular saws and very happy with it as I'm only cutting 2x4's.

Bummer to hear problems from such a trusted name

 

[Putthataway]