How are my girls looking

[hoffmister]

Hi guys my girls are nearly 5 weeks old, 2 different strains using canna coco and other canna products how are they looking? I hand feed and make a new solution every time my ec is spot on according to my feeding chart with a ph of 5.9 6.0 every time im under a led giving out between 500 600 par I think the term is.. my RH is mostly at 50% but some time dips but never below 45% is there any way I can increase my RH with out buying a humidifier or am I ok how it is my temps are good aswell. Any advice would be good cheers

 

[Merkle]

Hey Hoffmister,
I would try to do some LST training before it is too late. Also think about topping some of the new areas to create multiple colas.

 

[JIMKSI64]

Having dealt with humidity issues in the last runs, here are a few suggestions. First of all is you got seeds to start and keep going at 45% nice job. Btw none of these will allow even a modest duct pull full time the fan will just pull it out. If you can exchange the air 2 times an hour you will be fine.
Bowls of water on the floor . It took 5 bowls 7 inch round stainless dog bowls to go from 48 to 60.
Wet towels. Easy to overshoot with towels so watch numbers.
Roll a standard towel up like a joint. Pour water into the inside of the towel and let it dampen the whole towel. Lay it around the perimeter of the plants. I have a raised floor in my 31x31 and used it to seal the baggy tent walls to the floor. A couple of towels will last a couple of days. Towels should not drip but will be quite heavy with water. This took me to 65%

Power tip. A home humidifier will not work. Even on an inkbird controller monitoring humidity and the bird turning it off and on it will not keep closer than 5-7% humidity swings and this is just going to cause problems. The home humidifiers have a spool up and turn off that takes to long and will never stabilize. This runs your VDP just crazy and the plant will not transpire correctly.
One more thing. Look at your plant. It looks fine although small for a coco run. The cannabis plant has an awesome ability to adapt to environmental conditions. If you have been at a low humidity for the entire run the plant is going to transpire what it can when it can. As long as you can keep the environment stable with minimum fluctuations through the day cycle you will be fine.
And yes you should be training. Also I ( my preference ) do not let my nodes stack so tight. its a pain to train . Next time play with the lights. Reducing lights can make the top stretch before the next node to space them out a bit

Or you could have an old school indica that just presents like that no matter what you do.
Good luck.

Edit:
After looking close at your leafs you do have signs of environmental stress. Leafs are tacoing and edges are rough. Could be lights or the humidity. One you can change right away. Raise light or lower power. Try 10% less to start.

 

[keepthelandraces]

Look at the cute little babies. They look super healthy and happy

 

[hoffmister]

Thanks for your replys guys they have grow quite alot since this post here pics now. One is way smaller as you can see not sure if its something iv done or if its down to genetics both are female and are now showing signs after a week of flipping to 12/12

 

[Merkle]

Are you planning on doing any LST training before they go into flower?

 

[MileHiGhost]

Good arm's to ya!
I am of the idea, soil is fer outdoor, hydro is fer indoor. I definitely agree you would do better if you crop, many times before set flower. I would

 

[hoffmister]

Are you planning on doing any LST training before they go into flower?

I would like to yes but im not sure what branches to do it too i have a scrog netting in there so I can bend the top cola over im still very new to this and this is like my 2nd crop my 1st was over 20 years ago, so im just trying to get to grip with the basics of getting a healthy plant, what would you recommend me do to train them. The littler one all the nodes are really close together even on the branches its going to be a dance little girl should I be worried about air flow and how can I sort it out with out stressing her too much

 

[GNick55]

I would like to yes but im not sure what branches to do it too i have a scrog netting in there so I can bend the top cola over im still very new to this and this is like my 2nd crop my 1st was over 20 years ago, so im just trying to get to grip with the basics of getting a healthy plant, what would you recommend me do to train them. The littler one all the nodes are really close together even on the branches its going to be a dance little girl should I be worried about air flow and how can I sort it out with out stressing her too much

everything looks good to me,.

 

[HighRollin4]

Hey Hoffmister,
I would try to do some LST training before it is too late. Also think about topping some of the new areas to create multiple colas.

Facts!! Def low stress train, what is this about week 4 of veg? They look really
Healthy, those are some huge fan leaves

 

[Merkle]

I would like to yes but im not sure what branches to do it too i have a scrog netting in there so I can bend the top cola over im still very new to this and this is like my 2nd crop my 1st was over 20 years ago, so im just trying to get to grip with the basics of getting a healthy plant, what would you recommend me do to train them. The littler one all the nodes are really close together even on the branches its going to be a dance little girl should I be worried about air flow and how can I sort it out with out stressing her too much

I would like to yes but im not sure what branches to do it too i have a scrog netting in there so I can bend the top cola over im still very new to this and this is like my 2nd crop my 1st was over 20 years ago, so im just trying to get to grip with the basics of getting a healthy plant, what would you recommend me do to train them. The littler one all the nodes are really close together even on the branches its going to be a dance little girl should I be worried about air flow and how can I sort it out with out stressing her too much

So as far as getting good air circulation the LST would do exactly that and it will open up your plant so some of the sights will be exposed to the light. If you Google LST training it will show you how to begin this process. The best advice I got from anyone was to begin slowly and do it before she goes into flower. You got this!

 

[GNick55]

Thanks for your replys guys they have grow quite alot since this post here pics now. One is way smaller as you can see not sure if its something iv done or if its down to genetics both are female and are now showing signs after a week of flipping to 12/12

what growing medium are you using?
training won’t do much as these plants look stunty runty,. that could be from how you water them, could be other things as well,.

 

[Merkle]

I respectfully disagree. I think opening up the canopy and doing some LST training can only benefit these ladies. I say go for it! Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

 

[keepthelandraces]

DANG

 

[hoffmister]

Facts!! Def low stress train, what is this about week 4 of veg? They look really
Healthy, those are some huge fan leaves

Yeah 4 weeks veg then flipped in to flower the pics were taken on the day I flipped the lights. I have done sone lollypoping on the lower parts of the branches im going to look in to lst today online and see what I can do with them

 

[hoffmister]

Are you planning on doing any LST training before they go into flower?

Im going to look at lst today and try and do some later wen lights turn on. I have done some lollypoping on the lower end of the branches

 

[Merkle]

Im going to look at lst today and try and do some later wen lights turn on. I have done some lollypoping on the lower end of the branches

I think you will be very pleased with the results after you do the LST.

 

[hoffmister]

Im looking as we speak mate I will end up lollypoping the lower plant but im interested in lst and seeing the results

 

[JIMKSI64]

Lst will help bigly for yield. You can pull the side stems level and let them grow out away from the plant. Take green wire and lasso a stem out near the leafs. Tie the lasso off on the edge of the pot or use weights to do this. It will give you the classic crown pot plant

The other ways include pulling your main stem sideways and allow the stems runs to pop and run straight up.

I run the main stem on photos and crown autos. If you look at the second pic you can see I pull some tips down and I pull some tops up. This is called a virtual level canopy. The light strength is very level because some plants are under stronger parts of the light that others. The canopy is not perfectly level because I do not use bar lights that give a good level pattern. I use panels that have a hot spot. I use hot spots to train my fan leafs into a bowl in the middle of the light pattern. Go ahead burn up a fan leaf just leave my flowers alone

 

[HighRollin4]

Yeah 4 weeks veg then flipped in to flower the pics were taken on the day I flipped the lights. I have done sone lollypoping on the lower parts of the branches im going to look in to lst today online and see what I can do with them

Ok sounds good and looks good. I usually use garden stakes to hold mine down for LST but there’s a few different ways such as ties, and mainlining. Here’s one of my LST (photo below). I also would recommend flipping them in the future at about week 6 at the least just for more growth and stronger stems but week 4 is still a possible range for flowering. I’ve went as far as 8-10 weeks in veg and got some pretty good results as far as bud size and the plants size. This is all based on my own experience. Just sharing, not pretending to be some guru lol