They are stretching too much on vegetative, can I control the height using super cropping ?

[ChairmanFester]

Another thing (assuming it's negative pressure or constant air outward flow) , your filter is probably useless. Are you treating for smell? Do you need to? Are you legal where you live (at all not talking amounts), and any smell you ARE trying to treat- does that need to actually go away or simply be somewhere else?
I'm encouraging you to dump the filter and pipe it's exhaust air out a window or something. I run a 2x2 and right now have a monster that's hogging the tent and I don't filter at all.

 

[grow01]

Dude you have entire FEET of room, move the fan outside the tent and get a stick to figure out how far away your light needs to be to not damage the fabric, add a fan on it and I bet you can lift it to within 6" of the top.
Also BEFORE you supercrop try to get there with LST https://www.amazon.com/Stress-Training-Degrees-Trainer-Gardening/dp/B0D47HDTZF/ref=sr_1_3
or just use soft wrapped wire.
You're nowhere near a height emergency.

It is a problem bc I live on a studio bro, It is all together, then I can't put it outside bc of the noise, inside it is already so annoying, imagine out...
yeah yeah I have that LST 90 degree clip plant, but the stem was really huge bro, I needed to smash them with a pliers and also add the clip plant, It was impossible with fingers LOL
Do you have certain about the need to take it out ? It will give me around 15cm more, but maybe it won't necessary, I hope so!

 

[ChairmanFester]

It is a problem bc I live on a studio bro, It is all together, then I can't put it outside bc of the noise, inside it is so annoying, imagine out...
Do you have certain about the need to take it out ? It will give me around 15cm more, but maybe it won't necessary, I hope so!

I am not certain, I think simple training without supercrop will do it.
Alternatively take a cardboard box, cut inlet and outlet holes for the vent pipe, line it with fiberglass insulation, and use it to cover the motor. Heat may be the next issue but usually not and also the fiberglass is pretty fire resistant. Heat SHOULD flow out with exhaust air anyway.

 

[grow01]

Another thing (assuming it's negative pressure or constant air outward flow) , your filter is probably useless. Are you treating for smell? Do you need to? Are you legal where you live (at all not talking amounts), and any smell you ARE trying to treat- does that need to actually go away or simply be somewhere else?
I'm encouraging you to dump the filter and pipe it's exhaust air out a window or something. I run a 2x2 and right now have a monster that's hogging the tent and I don't filter at all.

Yes! Negative pressure. It is legal here, but if the police found the grow they legally can size it down...crazy to understand, but I can't take out the filter.
But if your filter isn't working you need to change mate... if you need it, sure.

 

[grow01]

I am not certain, I think simple training without supercrop will do it.
Alternatively take a cardboard box, cut inlet and outlet holes for the vent pipe, line it with fiberglass insulation, and use it to cover the motor. Heat may be the next issue but usually not and also the fiberglass is pretty fire resistant. Heat SHOULD flow out with exhaust air anyway.

But here is winter now, I think the problem can be with low temperatures and high humidity...
I don't know if I have too many plants , or I let them grow too much on vegetative and now it is too crowded and leaves breathing making humidity increase, maybe I have to take 1 plant out, It is sad, but I can't add one more device, bills increasing bro... and for instance a good dehumidifier is expensive €200+... If I take out 1 plant I probably can reduce the humidity around 5%, I am here to try to find another way to control it, and also the height.

 

[ChairmanFester]

Well you can still get a lot of space in that tent without taking it out.
With training the first move is 90 degree bend then push evenly to the outside. Let them grow 3". Begin RIGHT HAND ALONG THE WALL turn, with another 90 degrees and force it to continue 4". Then let it go up.

 

[ChairmanFester]

I mean heat in the fan, it should be irrelevant if you make a muffler box.

 

[grow01]

Well you can still get a lot of space in that tent without taking it out.
With training the first move is 90 degree bend then push evenly to the outside. Let them grow 3". Begin RIGHT HAND ALONG THE WALL turn, with another 90 degrees and force it to continue 4". Then let it go up.

I mean heat in the fan, it should be irrelevant if you make a muffler box.

Yeah! I will use that 90 degree clip plant, and I am planning to add the net today after the last clean and change pre filter cloth from carbon filter, and prepare everything to flowering stage bc I can't join in the tent after add the net, maybe I will not use the net bc of that...lets see

 

[ChairmanFester]

MIGHT not need the net, I have planned to try it but I always end up making a wire nest that works better.

 

[grow01]

I'm a first time grower also , I say your temp should be 74-76 f at night and fans to suck out moist air u have to play with it until u get humidity down in the 40 s dialed in .u have a lot of space to control. Where is ur grow room?

I have 1 plant 2 more weeks then I flower , when flower comes i remove humidifier

I had a bad experience with humidifier, It clogged often my pre filter cloth and needed to change it every week...

 

[ChairmanFester]

If I had more plants running this tall, at half height I'd have forced to the outside then 90 degree for a foot and up, rinse repeat. Turn, and up.

 

[ChairmanFester]

Your rH can be fine all it's life at 60%. mid flower drop to about 40-45%.

 

[grow01]

If I had more plants running this tall, at half height I'd have forced to the outside then 90 degree for a foot and up, rinse repeat. Turn, and up.

the problem is that I cant join in the tent often bc the smell, not now but it will starts next weeks.
It is like it is too crowded and every time I join in the tent I damage a little the stems walking inside.

Your rH can be fine all it's life at 60%. mid flower drop to about 40-45%.

The problem is how, bc it is winter, high humidity season, my tent is crowded with a lot of leaves breathing making humidity.
And like I told you, they had excessive time on vegetative, they seems like big trees bro lol

 

[ChairmanFester]

the problem is that I cant join in the tent often bc the smell, not now but it will starts next weeks.
It is like it is too crowded and every time I join in the tent I damage a little the stems walking inside.

The problem is how, bc it is winter, high humidity season, my tent is crowded with a lot of leaves breathing making humidity.
And like I told you, they had excessive time on vegetative, they seems like big trees bro lol

Get a big cheap bag of those rope+locking pulleys that hold your light. Chinese alibaba horseshit is fine.
3x per plant.
With the lifted light room you should have enough to GENTLY LIFT and hang each pot/bag higher than the other half of the bags in the tent. You now have about 1/3rd more floor space to do things in TEMPORARILY.
When you reset and put them down, place one hand under and release the rope brakes, then guide the plant down.
I assume you can temporarily hold 20-25lbs one handed.
I also assume you can move like a sloth so this works safely.

Humidity: measure your rH and VPD. Ask AI how to change them to your liking. USE AI, but triple check it's advice and even ask someone else if you're not sure, but it is tremendously helpful.

 

[grow01]

Get a big cheap bag of those rope+locking pulleys that hold your light. Chinese alibaba horseshit is fine.
3x per plant.
With the lifted light room you should have enough to GENTLY LIFT and hang each pot/bag higher than the other half of the bags in the tent. You now have about 1/3rd more floor space to do things in TEMPORARILY.
When you reset and put them down, place one hand under and release the rope brakes, then guide the plant down.
I assume you can temporarily hold 20-25lbs one handed.
I also assume you can move like a sloth so this works safely.

Humidity: measure your rH and VPD. Ask AI how to change them to your liking. USE AI, but triple check it's advice and even ask someone else if you're not sure, but it is tremendously helpful.

Bro my folder named GROW on chatgpt you can scroll for minutes LOL, but nothing like real ppl, IRL, you can't trust 100% on chatgpt, from personal experience. I already did all the ways chatgpt gave me, but I like to ask to real growers. I can't keep opening every time the grow, so I just cleaned and prepared it to flowering, checked the automatic irrigation system and that's it.
About humidity it is so difficult to control when you live in a studio with your grow close to the window with 97% humidity outside... Anyway, I made some changes, I moved the active intake fan to the top of the tent to avoid humidity near the window and on the floor.
Today is 55% Lights OFF (along the day) and 65% with Lights ON (along the night)... because humidity increases at night...i think I will need to buy a fucking dehumidifier...

 

[grow01]

If I had more plants running this tall, at half height I'd have forced to the outside then 90 degree for a foot and up, rinse repeat. Turn, and up.

Why didn't you trained her? Seems it is a small grow, with training you can improve the space and take more yield in my opinion.

 

[ChairmanFester]

Why didn't you trained her? Seems it is a small grow, with training you can improve the space and take more yield in my opinion.

She is spread completely out with tons of productive leaf all getting light, what isn't being trained?

 

[grow01]

She is spread completely out with tons of productive leaf all getting light, what isn't being trained?

Which technics do you used? Anyway she looks good!

 

[ForestSpirit]

If a weed is growing, but you've already turned on all the lights in your house, it means that the weed likes to grow upwards, and nothing will stop it except for truly destructive actions.

 

[ChairmanFester]

Just by measure, when the light meter hits 1k ppfd that's too much and she needs to be tied off in one direction and something less than 900 ppfd I start rearranging with wire ties. I hardly clip when there is no crowding but the next two are coming up so there will be more training..