Hi is this a defiency in my auto.green gelato

[craigsy]

Hi my leaves on these green gelato are going pale..I've got my lights at 26 inch at 400 watt I'm feeding bloom nutes every 3 day..they are 45 days old..they seem to be growing well just leaves are going pale..this is my first grow so still leaning .thanx.

 

[Merkle]

Hi my leaves on these green gelato are going pale..I've got my lights at 26 inch at 400 watt I'm feeding bloom nutes every 3 day..they are 45 days old..they seem to be growing well just leaves are going pale..this is my first grow so still leaning .thanx.

Hi my leaves on these green gelato are going pale..I've got my lights at 26 inch at 400 watt I'm feeding bloom nutes every 3 day..they are 45 days old..they seem to be growing well just leaves are going pale..this is my first grow so still leaning .thanx.

Hey Craigsy, question. Are you testing your water? I am assuming you are growing in hydro. Is this a correct assumption? Perhaps you are feeding too often. I would dial back on nutes based on your testing. Do you have ppm meter?

 

[JIMKSI64]

One of the biggest errors I have been seeing is the propensity for new growers to not follow the feed schedule for nutrition. I do not know what bloom you are using but most products called grow and bloom have an overlap of a few weeks where both nutrition profiles are used.
If this is hydro I will not make a rec until I see a ppm and EC and pH for the grow.
Give us the run down on nutrition schedule feed chart and some pics of when it looked fine and how long ago that was.
Having said that looks ph'y to me.

 

[Merkle]

One of the biggest errors I have been seeing is the propensity for new growers to not follow the feed schedule for nutrition. I do not know what bloom you are using but most products called grow and bloom have an overlap of a few weeks where both nutrition profiles are used.
If this is hydro I will not make a rec until I see a ppm and EC and pH for the grow.
Give us the run down on nutrition schedule feed chart and some pics of when it looked fine and how long ago that was.
Having said that looks ph'y to me.

I agree.

 

[craigsy]

One of the biggest errors I have been seeing is the propensity for new growers to not follow the feed schedule for nutrition. I do not know what bloom you are using but most products called grow and bloom have an overlap of a few weeks where both nutrition profiles are used.
If this is hydro I will not make a rec until I see a ppm and EC and pH for the grow.
Give us the run down on nutrition schedule feed chart and some pics of when it looked fine and how long ago that was.
Having said that looks ph'y to me.

There grown in bio bizz all mix soil .I didn't feed grow nute just bloom when they started to flower..recomended by my local grow shop.

 

[craigsy]

There grown in bio bizz all mix soil .I didn't feed grow nute just bloom when they started to flower..recomended by my local grow shop.

Was gonna spray them with some diluting epsom salts?

 

[JIMKSI64]

Biobizz all mix has enough nutes for " a few weeks ".

Amendments should have been started or veg nutes given by week 2 if staying organic.

If the grow is still organic what bloom nutes are you using ?

It does not look like a deficiency as new growth is not turning. It looks like a lot of things but unless you/we/it figures it out any thing you do is a guess.
You can not take a pic of a plant and expect someone to guess the cause. Give us info and more pics
Before pic when it was fine
What nutes brand /schedule/ start date
Water schedule.
Any pH or EC testing.

 

[Ninjadogma]

Howdy! Nice looking plant, some really nice tops coming in. Sometimes a deficiency is not the absence of the nutes, but rather a blockage or lockout happening. Check the pH with a slurry. I am guessing you are probably sitting at about 5.8???

If you ARE staring at a high EC/low pH reading, a good heavy watering (not a flush) will dilute down the salts and take the pH back up to a healthier number. The technique I use is I sit there with a watering can and an EC/pH pen and I take my time pouring small amounts until the numbers look better and stop. Take your time so as to avoid losing microbes, nutes and buffers out the bottom, and do small increments because once the number gets in range it can drop back out with a low EC / high pH reading as the excess water continues flowing out the bottom.

On a side note, there was a dry amend I used once at recommended strength and when the leaves started turning yellow and getting brown spots I tested and got an EC reading of 9999999

 

[Stokes]

Bump up your flowering nutes a but and add some cal mag too

 

[craigsy]

Howdy! Nice looking plant, some really nice tops coming in. Sometimes a deficiency is not the absence of the nutes, but rather a blockage or lockout happening. Check the pH with a slurry. I am guessing you are probably sitting at about 5.8???

If you ARE staring at a high EC/low pH reading, a good heavy watering (not a flush) will dilute down the salts and take the pH back up to a healthier number. The technique I use is I sit there with a watering can and an EC/pH pen and I take my time pouring small amounts until the numbers look better and stop. Take your time so as to avoid losing microbes, nutes and buffers out the bottom, and do small increments because once the number gets in range it can drop back out with a low EC / high pH reading as the excess water continues flowing out the bottom.

On a side note, there was a dry amend I used once at recommended strength and when the leaves started turning yellow and getting brown spots I tested and got an EC reading of 9999999

Cheers so do I test the water that runs out the bottom of pot for ph level..soz new at the game lol

 

[craigsy]

Bump up your flowering nutes a but and add some cal mag too

Ye was thinking that maybe every other day have noticed a bit of nute burn I think tho on tips of leaves so confused lol

 

[RoadKillSkunkHunt]

One of the biggest errors I have been seeing is the propensity for new growers to not follow the feed schedule for nutrition. I do not know what bloom you are using but most products called grow and bloom have an overlap of a few weeks where both nutrition profiles are used.
If this is hydro I will not make a rec until I see a ppm and EC and pH for the grow.
Give us the run down on nutrition schedule feed chart and some pics of when it looked fine and how long ago that was.
Having said that looks ph'y to me.

This is correct information! Let's have the details first before we start making recommendations. However, as a rule of thumb, nitrogen needs don't start diminishing until AFTER the plant has gone through its stretch. I realize the post is about autos so that stretch might not be quite as noticeable as it would be in a photo.

Let's hear your routine and then we can make some recommendations.

 

[craigsy]

This is correct information! Let's have the details first before we start making recommendations. However, as a rule of thumb, nitrogen needs don't start diminishing until AFTER the plant has gone through its stretch. I realize the post is about autos so that stretch might not be quite as noticeable as it would be in a photo.

Let's hear your routine and then we can make some recommendations.

I'm watering 2ltrs water every day and a half..was feeding shogun bloom nutes 1/4 dose very four days .I've just upped it to 1/2 dose and goin to start feeding every other watering.didnt start feed untill 4 weeks in..they showed signs of nute burn early on so figured the soil was enough feed.

 

[craigsy]

I'm watering 2ltrs water every day and a half..was feeding shogun bloom nutes 1/4 dose very four days .I've just upped it to 1/2 dose and goin to start feeding every other watering.didnt start feed untill 4 weeks in..they showed signs of nute burn early on so figured the soil was enough feed.

There in 15 ltr pots

 

[RoadKillSkunkHunt]

There in 15 ltr pots

What's your media? Coco?

 

[JIMKSI64]

Ok.
With information we have an idea
First of all you appear to have taken a lovely organic soil and turned it into mineral fed plant.
The good news is you can square this up. The nutrition part.
The 2 liters of water every day and a half leads me to think you prolly have a wet feet issue. This is not time enough for a dry back. Cannabis soil needs dry cycle or the oxygen level drop and pH goes up. This blocks nutrients.
From the nutrient selection of bloom only the plant has a lack of Nitrogen. This was actually a good thing as loaded nitrogen and wet feet is normally fatal as the nitrogen gets converted to the wrong type.
Dry this pot out.
Access the roots through a hole in the pot about 2 inches from the bottom and look for dead brown gunk or a smell like ammonia. If any are present the grow will prolly not continue very far although I did hang onto a white widow long enough to get 3 lids, the plant next to it was double.
If the roots are not totally trashed with bad smell restart with the mineral nutrition per the feed schedule but either use some grow or at least throw a cup and a half of Earth Worm Castings.

Or try random suggestions people made before enough information was provided to make a determination.

 

[craigsy]

What's your media? Coco?

Bio bizz all mix soil

 

[craigsy]

Ok.
With information we have an idea
First of all you appear to have taken a lovely organic soil and turned it into mineral fed plant.
The good news is you can square this up. The nutrition part.
The 2 liters of water every day and a half leads me to think you prolly have a wet feet issue. This is not time enough for a dry back. Cannabis soil needs dry cycle or the oxygen level drop and pH goes up. This blocks nutrients.
From the nutrient selection of bloom only the plant has a lack of Nitrogen. This was actually a good thing as loaded nitrogen and wet feet is normally fatal as the nitrogen gets converted to the wrong type.
Dry this pot out.
Access the roots through a hole in the pot about 2 inches from the bottom and look for dead brown gunk or a smell like ammonia. If any are present the grow will prolly not continue very far although I did hang onto a white widow long enough to get 3 lids, the plant next to it was double.
If the roots are not totally trashed with bad smell restart with the mineral nutrition per the feed schedule but either use some grow or at least throw a cup and a half of Earth Worm Castings.

Or try random suggestions people made before enough information was provided to make a determination.

Thanx for the info..

 

[RoadKillSkunkHunt]

Thanx for the info..

I agree with @JIMKSI64 - Your pots should be light before you water again. Those roots being wet all the time is the source of your troubles. The rust colored leaves is due to wet feet issues.

 

[craigsy]

I agree with @JIMKSI64 - Your pots should be light before you water again. Those roots being wet all the time is the source of your troubles. The rust colored leaves is due to wet feet issues.

Ye cheers..I've raised the pots on wire stands and gonna not water again for a few days also I've increased the temp to 28 c hopefully this dose the trick you think